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As stated, my pie in the sky splintered idea:
(I know the bike doesn't exist, but...)
-Reed with KTM deal to ride 250SX FE (the new chassis anyway)
-Modest salary but HUGE race bonus structure to put it on the box in 450 Mains
Before I get flamed, I'm not a 2 stroke homer, I like both 2 and 4. This deal would be ideal for a rider that's already decorated and doesn't need to prove anything to anyone to secure future career or contracts. Just someone out for blood. (Reed)
Bike would be too slow you say? But it's too fast too race heads up on 250F's?? I see the top 250F guys laying down laptimes right in there with the 450's. So??? Point being, I think an updated and dialed 250 2T can still be plenty competitive with 450s. .
(I know the bike doesn't exist, but...)
-Reed with KTM deal to ride 250SX FE (the new chassis anyway)
-Modest salary but HUGE race bonus structure to put it on the box in 450 Mains
Before I get flamed, I'm not a 2 stroke homer, I like both 2 and 4. This deal would be ideal for a rider that's already decorated and doesn't need to prove anything to anyone to secure future career or contracts. Just someone out for blood. (Reed)
Bike would be too slow you say? But it's too fast too race heads up on 250F's?? I see the top 250F guys laying down laptimes right in there with the 450's. So??? Point being, I think an updated and dialed 250 2T can still be plenty competitive with 450s. .
We saw how much attention/ exposure Steinke got riding the 125 to 23rds in the Nationals. Putting an "archaic" dinosaur in the main/ top 10/ on the BOX in 450SX would bring the house down! ..And that's Reed's game; max exposure, max limelight, undedog...
All eyes would be on them.
The Shop
So KTM has rolled the new light/ updated chassis to all the MX bikes (including 150 2T right?)... It would be naive to think they're not locked and loaded at this point to roll the new 250 out.
This thread rocks!
That's some funny stuff right there.
Yes, there would be so much hype around that if they were to plan ride the smokers. However, every other rider on thumps would now know they have the advantage. This would play into the start as 7 and 22 got SMOKED by the traction monsters.
Have we forgotten when guys like MC, DV etc tried to race the smokers for a few rounds only to get stomped by the thumps? And that was 10 year ago thump technology. Today the smokers are the same as ten years ago and the thumps are that much better.
So the funnest part and most exciting part would just be the talk and hype all before the gate drops. Like this post.
The ONLY way smokers will ever be competitive in the SX races is if we drop the thumps all back to 250F's to race cc's for cc's. Or allow 450cc smokers into the 450F class.
Pit Row
And on the harder packed SX tracks...250fs would still be faster than 250 two strokes. There is no substitute for throttle modulation. 2Ts develop too much power at low throttle openings due to expansion chamber dynamics. This reduces min corner speeds lot, which is where 4Ts stomp 2Ts. Fun yes. Great sound...yes. But competitive? Not even close.
Give rc a 250 smoker and he wins the outdoor championship every time .
Yes he would beat dungey and poto. He wouldn't be able to do it every weekend maybe but the guy won every outdoor title he ever raced and you say he'd get "stomped"... It's Ricky fucking Carmichael bub and all of his two smokes were fast as shit. Sx no he wouldn't win .
Op you are on drugs if you think reed or anyone besides a young js7 would be able to podium a sx. Sx is a traction game, smoker loses that fight every time, bad.
Some people would be watching the two-strokes, too.
Clearly see at the races he was at a disadvantage
It is a fact that two strokes make a much higher percentage of power at low throttle openings than 4Ts. It has to do with the way pressure waves and port timings in 2T expansion chambers work. This means when you get on the gas on a 2T...you break traction much more easily. This is why 2Ts favor inside lines...point and squirt...squaring up corners, etc. The min corner speeds (the slowest point a bike hits in a given corner) are MUCH slower for 2Ts. Even with less peak HP...a 250f will enable a rider to clear things that a 250 2T cant because of corner exit speed. It is just the way it is, and it will never change due to the way expansion chambers work. If you do not know how expansion chambers work...read Gordon Blairs 2T book....
The advantage of modern 4Ts is still growing because of EFI and ECUs... Teams put a LOT of work into tuning the ECU to achieve partial throttle characteristics the riders like. This is something you can not do with a 2T at all.
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