Mod Killer wrote:
no, thats not what i meant at all. amatuer success doesnt guarantee pro success. my point is, if the kid has the work ethic and the talent, he will get noticed and he will get his shot. its up to them to put in the "dungey-type" work. ive watched with my own eyes plenty of kids with all the talent in the world, take it all for granted. you can get yourself a paid ride without the use of PED's. competing with the top guys may be another story, but getting yourself into the top 10 and getting a tryout with a team is easily do-able if you have the talent. thing is, this industry is super small, and everyone knows who's doing what.
durham is a prime example of someone who didnt squander his shot. and now he's gonna be on a PC bike. and if you think that mitch didnt do his homework before signing the kid, youre mistaken. mitch is the real deal. but if durham thinks hes "made it" hes wrong. he aint even close. he's got years of intense work and sacrifice before he's really got bubba or reed worried. i hope he makes it there, but more often than not, the kids think that once theyre getting paid 2k a month, theyve made it. when in reality, the end has just begun. and later they complain that they were never given a fair shot.
with regards to the level of competitiveness that guys like dungey or lance armstrong possess, most cannot even fathom it. its a level of drive that the majority of the planet doesnt have and cannot quantify or comprehend. its flat out greed to the umpteenth degree.
you may not be a pro athlete, but unless you are at the top of your field in whatever business you partake in, chances are, you are not one of these rare types of people and would have a hard time comprehending their nature.
these are the type of kids who were competitive to a fault growing up. uncomfortable to be around. took everything too seriously. theyre flawed individuals actually. its abnormal. we just happen to live in a society that puts value on it.
and so with that, im not justifying the use of any drugs, im just rationalizing it. trying to give u some understanding of the immense self-imposed pressures that these kids succumb too. cheating isnt right by any means. but its nothing to be condemned for if you have slight understanding of where it comes from.
i hope that makes sense. im trying my best to articulate this in a timely fashion. u can choose to take whatever i say with a grain of salt. im not trying to talk down to u or insult anyone or start any heated argument. just shed some light, and hopefully perspective, thats all.
Mod is right on here. Our own Canadian Olympic hero, Ben Johnson, who quickly fell from the top of the mountain, worked like a fuckin dog to beat Carl Lewis, another rampant cheater. If everyone lining up for the 1988 Olympic final in the 100 metre race was using PED's, was it really cheating at all? The difference still lied in the work they did to get there, and Johnson's capacity for work was crazy (obviously aided by the PED's), so it wasn't like he did a bunch of juice and sat around all day playing his Playstation scratching his sac, and then went out and smoked the fastest athletes in the world.
If everyone on the Tour De France is using PED's, is it really cheating? As much as I don't want to believe that Lance never doped...he still did an absolutely enormous amount of work to come back from cancer and win.
The top dudes that Mod refers to work in such a way that we can't understand. This is why they ARE the cream that rises to the top.
Funny comment about the huge investigation that the Canadian Gov't followed up with after Ben got nabbed in Seoul (The Dubin Inquiry)-when Ben's coach, Charlie Francis testified at the inquiry he basically said that if you weren't using PED's you might as well line up your starting block one metre behind the competition. In track and field terms, that is like a mile behind your competition! LIke, you are fucked!