Opinions on why Bowers is still racing AX?

TDeath21 wrote:

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat...

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat race. That way, it's actually a road to supercross. I personally think the road to supercross through arenacross is the stupidest idea ever. I say keep them separate.

TDeath21 wrote:

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat...

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat race. That way, it's actually a road to supercross. I personally think the road to supercross through arenacross is the stupidest idea ever. I say keep them separate.

berno929 wrote:

You want the AX winners to make less than $280 per weekend? Thats what you get in 250 SX... http://www.amasupercross.com/rules/pdf/2014/Bulletins/Purse%20(1)%20SX%2014.pdf Racing 250 SX is just plain...

You want the AX winners to make less than $280 per weekend? Thats what you get in 250 SX...
http://www.amasupercross.com/rules/pdf/2014/Bulletins/Purse%20(1)%20SX%…

Racing 250 SX is just plain stupid unless you're paid to do so or you're very young trying to get a factory ride. If you live in California you can get around as a privateer in the 450 class...


Purse for AX is listed at the bottom... http://www.arenacross.com/registration.aspx?id=2147488881

Bowers can easily make 2-4K per weekend... and get the 25k for the championship... so let's say 55k from the AMA.. then he's got to have bonuses from Kawi and his sponsors on top of a salary.

Unless you can win a 250 SX title (need a factory ride for that and Bowers didn't get an offer for even after winning a main) or if you're paid to race 450 full time... you'll make much more money in AX...

Camp332 wrote:

I think he still races AX to piss people off on moto forums.

mdub45 wrote:

Back when Darcy Lange was winning AX championships the bonus was $100,000 and a honda ridgeline each year He still has the huge cheques on the...

Back when Darcy Lange was winning AX championships the bonus was $100,000 and a honda ridgeline each year
He still has the huge cheques on the wall
I can't remember how long he raced AX but he doesn't have to worry about money

TDeath21 wrote:

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat...

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat race. That way, it's actually a road to supercross. I personally think the road to supercross through arenacross is the stupidest idea ever. I say keep them separate.

TDeath21 wrote:

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat...

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat race. That way, it's actually a road to supercross. I personally think the road to supercross through arenacross is the stupidest idea ever. I say keep them separate.

berno929 wrote:

You want the AX winners to make less than $280 per weekend? Thats what you get in 250 SX... http://www.amasupercross.com/rules/pdf/2014/Bulletins/Purse%20(1)%20SX%2014.pdf Racing 250 SX is just plain...

You want the AX winners to make less than $280 per weekend? Thats what you get in 250 SX...
http://www.amasupercross.com/rules/pdf/2014/Bulletins/Purse%20(1)%20SX%…

Racing 250 SX is just plain stupid unless you're paid to do so or you're very young trying to get a factory ride. If you live in California you can get around as a privateer in the 450 class...


Purse for AX is listed at the bottom... http://www.arenacross.com/registration.aspx?id=2147488881

Bowers can easily make 2-4K per weekend... and get the 25k for the championship... so let's say 55k from the AMA.. then he's got to have bonuses from Kawi and his sponsors on top of a salary.

Unless you can win a 250 SX title (need a factory ride for that and Bowers didn't get an offer for even after winning a main) or if you're paid to race 450 full time... you'll make much more money in AX...

Camp332 wrote:

I think he still races AX to piss people off on moto forums.

ktm212 wrote:

HAR, i enjoy when people say this

MX455 wrote:

Unfortunately no it doesn't mean that. He makes good money racing AX and I don't blame him one bit. If they truly want it to be...

Unfortunately no it doesn't mean that. He makes good money racing AX and I don't blame him one bit. If they truly want it to be the road to SX they need to come up with a points system (if they haven't already) similar to 250's to point guys out and move them up to the next level.

TDeath21 wrote:

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat...

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat race. That way, it's actually a road to supercross. I personally think the road to supercross through arenacross is the stupidest idea ever. I say keep them separate.

vanillaice782 wrote:

Oh gawd! Are you saying ee need to redistribute the wealth?

TDeath21 wrote:

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat...

They need to make it to where a first place guy in AX doesn't make as much as the last place guy in a 250 heat race. That way, it's actually a road to supercross. I personally think the road to supercross through arenacross is the stupidest idea ever. I say keep them separate.

vanillaice782 wrote:

Oh gawd! Are you saying ee need to redistribute the wealth?

GuyB wrote:

No, we're saying 50% fewer vanillaice782 posts is a 100% bonus for everyone else.

Darryl916 wrote:

Can someone educate me? How does "RC's road to SX" work? I thought the winner of the series went on to SX with a ride. He...

Can someone educate me? How does "RC's road to SX" work? I thought the winner of the series went on to SX with a ride. He did well in the last few SX races last year riding for Mitch. Wouldn't it be in his best interest to find a ride in SX and do Nationals and such?

Camp332 wrote:

I think he still races AX to piss people off on moto forums.

mdub45 wrote:

Back when Darcy Lange was winning AX championships the bonus was $100,000 and a honda ridgeline each year He still has the huge cheques on the...

Back when Darcy Lange was winning AX championships the bonus was $100,000 and a honda ridgeline each year
He still has the huge cheques on the wall
I can't remember how long he raced AX but he doesn't have to worry about money

therealjonon wrote:

you sound pretty lange-knowledged.... is he still working for inlaws biz??

usp4u wrote:

....and in a few years you will have effectively put a ton of people out work. How many SX rides are available for all these riders...

....and in a few years you will have effectively put a ton of people out work. How many SX rides are available for all these riders who would point out???

ktm212 wrote:

Arenacross is its own thing, however I think they are really trying to get guys to have a little more experience when they hit the big...

Arenacross is its own thing, however I think they are really trying to get guys to have a little more experience when they hit the big show (SX, if I had to actually point it out). The road to supercross isn't techincal, you basically have to qualify for 3 AX night shows (not AX Lites from what i gather) to get your SX Pro License (SX and MX will be seperate) according to the layout on www.arenacross.com. I think its a great idea; racing infront of a crowd, getting to run a timed qualifying sessions, plus arenacross is a big family-like atmosphere and I think you'll see alot of guys race it and not leave because everyone is really friendly and cool (minus the contact). It's a great stepping stone and a great place for pro racers to get more jobs now that the series is getting more spotlight, our sport is tough to break into and if you can get a ride in AX or make a little money then more power to you because we all see how hard it is to be in the big show and make it. There are tons and tons of talented riders that don't get any credit or rides and heres another outlet for guys to make a living racing.

from www.arenacross.com-
RICKY CARMICHAEL'S ROAD TO SUPERCROSS:

A rider must complete the Ricky Carmichael Road to Supercross to earn their 250SX endorsement prior to racing Monster Energy AMA Supercross an FIM World Championship.

1.Earn 3 Road to Supercross Points - 1 Road to Supercross point is earned by each rider who qualifies for the night program in the Arenacross Class.
2.A rider must attend a minimum of 3 AMSOIL Arenacross Events to earn a 250SX Endorsement.

mdub45 wrote:

Back when Darcy Lange was winning AX championships the bonus was $100,000 and a honda ridgeline each year He still has the huge cheques on the...

Back when Darcy Lange was winning AX championships the bonus was $100,000 and a honda ridgeline each year
He still has the huge cheques on the wall
I can't remember how long he raced AX but he doesn't have to worry about money

MotoX85 wrote:

Because it is not actually the road to SX, it is the road to pay me money before you can get your pro license. For the...

Because it is not actually the road to SX, it is the road to pay me money before you can get your pro license. For the same reason Adam C and Cooper Webb NEVER raced AX but still have their pro license.

Its a way of regulating who they DO and DO NOT want lining up at a SX. You know, once again fucking over the TRUE privateers.

mdub45 wrote:

Back when Darcy Lange was winning AX championships the bonus was $100,000 and a honda ridgeline each year He still has the huge cheques on the...

Back when Darcy Lange was winning AX championships the bonus was $100,000 and a honda ridgeline each year
He still has the huge cheques on the wall
I can't remember how long he raced AX but he doesn't have to worry about money

zook11 wrote:

I highly doubt he doesn't have to worry about money.