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A while back some of you had brought up a question of whether the medical attention that Adam Cianciarulo had received in the main at Toronto had constituted outside assistance. The answer is yes.
This was an issue that had never been brought up before. In the future, the medical crew has been instructed that if they need to treat a rider during a race, the helmet comes off, and he's done for the event.
This was an issue that had never been brought up before. In the future, the medical crew has been instructed that if they need to treat a rider during a race, the helmet comes off, and he's done for the event.
When I posted that topic last week nearly everyone one ignored the question and wanted to to bench race about the injury except for one response that outside assistance only pertained to help with the motorcycle.
I am wondering why they are touting that having the medical staff with a downed rider within seconds is the best aspect of the Asterisk medical unit.. There is no reason that it should take them any longer than a minute at the most to get to a down rider since the stadium is so small. That part isn't that impressive. It comes across like they're achieving greatness when in all reality, if any EMT service were on hand, they'd be there just as fast. I think they'd fascinate more people if they talked more about Doc Bodnar and crew's relativity to the sport and how they are the best trained professionals for what they do. That would be better than saying they raced that mule over to the accident scene and now they're pulling AC's finger.
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You're now bringing in a bunch of unrelated topics into this one.
I don't see speed as the best aspect of it. I see that the best part of the Asterisk Mobile Medical unit is that they're good at what they do, they're familiar with and understand our sport, that they know the riders, and the riders know and trust them.
"If the medical staff clears the rider after the race he was assisted in, he can compete in future races at that meet. This is the same as if a rider went to the Asterix rig to get taped, X-rayed, or stitched up."
I know that I was in that position with a possible championship on the line, I would definitely attempt to do it myself.
If the rider receives oxygen, IV, etc... or anything that will give them an advantage, they're out for the race (and possibly the event).
For the outdoors the question of IV's and oxygen are more complicated. I'll save that for another post.
I would guess that the answer is no.
Are we going to expect teams to start bringing their own doctors to races? The level of nit-pick on this stuff is fascinating. Crazy, but fascinating.
As I understand it in RV's case, his treatment was off-site. I also don't get what's so hard to understand about this.
Payment in loonies? Just show 'em the forum. One look and they'd say you're paid in full.
The outdoor ruling on Iv's sounds as clear as mud and open to abuse, but as 90% of Vital says Cheating is OK.
The part I don't understand is that these riders are racing for their lives whether they have a family or not and the majority havn't got a clue what the rules are. Most people I have found don't realise that the Rule book is just as important to them as it is to the Officials.
Like a golfer there will always be some grey areas but being aware to check beforehand in a lot of cases can help all for better racing and having a basic grip of the rules including where to actually look is something riders need to do. You don't have to swallow the rule book but I had a reasonable grasp of our rules and never ever protested any rider or event.
I am not saying that they should have checked before hand on this but surely the Medical teams Should be conversant with the rules pertaining to Outside Assistance, very basic and that is their job.
Pit Row
As for naming them as hard as it is to beleive I do have a life again after going MIA these last 14 months.
just go back through that thread and you will get close to 90 % but again they were probably just trying to act cool and run with the pack.
Getting back to what originally happened who was the person who actually put the shoulder in place and who actually held him and therefore assisted as well. Seems a refresher of the Officiating course would be in order for all involved inside the Track confines.
OR They could be like the Aussie MX /SX and just adjust the rules to suit either individuals / teams or themselves, even with the payments taking forever to reach the riders.
IMO popping a riders dislocated shoulder back in should not affect the riders races outcome. When a championship is on the line 1 or 2 points can and often is the decider.
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