New Florida track

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Edited Date/Time 12/3/2014 6:31pm
Sorry if I missed a post on this already. Could this be a future home for a southeast national?

http://vurbmoto.com/videos/florida-tracks-and-trails-official-first-loo…
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Overdrive 12/3/2014 9:07am
12/3/2014 9:07am
Im wondering if they are shooting for a national? Its one hell of a big facility to not throw their hat in the ring, FLORIDA does need a national again!
aFACEdismembered 12/3/2014 9:44am
12/3/2014 9:44am
Freestone was to flat but use a bunch of gasoline and machinery and pile up a bunch of dirt piles in a field and it's better??

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Jakes Dad 12/3/2014 9:45am
12/3/2014 9:45am
WW Ranch IMHO is setup better logistically, this place is more of an off roader's Disney World. Not to say Dream Traxx creation isn't up to that standard. Just the place as a whole is going after a different demographic.
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HOPSTOOPID 12/3/2014 9:47am
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
Freestone was to flat but use a bunch of gasoline and machinery and pile up a bunch of dirt piles in a field and it's better??

Unfortunately Yes, just ask the people over at Miller Motorsports Park

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Overdrive 12/3/2014 10:05am
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Unfortunately Florida is pretty flat....lol Unless you build a track around an old quarry your going to have to pile up a bunch of dirt. With all the teams and the large Baker training facility building up in the Clermont/Orlando area we need a national down here.
ButteryWaffles 12/3/2014 10:05am
12/3/2014 10:05am
Agreed a national in Florida would be cool, but I dont think the circuit needs another "flat" track..
Justin Starling 12/3/2014 10:38am
12/3/2014 10:38am
Jakes Dad wrote:
WW Ranch IMHO is setup better logistically, this place is more of an off roader's Disney World. Not to say Dream Traxx creation isn't up to...
WW Ranch IMHO is setup better logistically, this place is more of an off roader's Disney World. Not to say Dream Traxx creation isn't up to that standard. Just the place as a whole is going after a different demographic.
Dream Traxx built WW Ranch
Abroham Lincoln 12/3/2014 11:21am
12/3/2014 11:21am
ButteryWaffles wrote:
Agreed a national in Florida would be cool, but I dont think the circuit needs another "flat" track..
there isn't one real sand track on the circuit.

The reality is that FL won't get a national until another track loses one. It's politics people. The races dont really go to the best tracks, they go to the best negotiators.
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Jakes Dad 12/3/2014 12:25pm
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Jakes Dad wrote:
WW Ranch IMHO is setup better logistically, this place is more of an off roader's Disney World. Not to say Dream Traxx creation isn't up to...
WW Ranch IMHO is setup better logistically, this place is more of an off roader's Disney World. Not to say Dream Traxx creation isn't up to that standard. Just the place as a whole is going after a different demographic.
Justin Starling wrote:
Dream Traxx built WW Ranch
I knew that just saying Jason built probably a better track at FTT than WW . But hotels, travel distance and dining are better around WW.
aFACEdismembered 12/3/2014 1:36pm
12/3/2014 1:36pm
ButteryWaffles wrote:
Agreed a national in Florida would be cool, but I dont think the circuit needs another "flat" track..
Abroham Lincoln wrote:
there isn't one real sand track on the circuit. The reality is that FL won't get a national until another track loses one. It's politics people...
there isn't one real sand track on the circuit.

The reality is that FL won't get a national until another track loses one. It's politics people. The races dont really go to the best tracks, they go to the best negotiators.
It can be flat as a pancake for all I care. I just don't get why massive mounds of dirt have to be piled together to make a track on flat land "good." To me, Lommel and Lierop (and plenty of other tracks) are amazing circuits on flat pieces of land.

Sure, big mounds of dirt catch the eye, but how good of a race track is it? Granted, I have not ridden it. Maybe my age and open motorsport passion makes me like tracks that are more about flowing through straights and corners with a few jumps thrown in for fun. Not a bunch of jumps with corners thrown in to make it a loop.
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wfo4ever 12/3/2014 1:39pm
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WW Motocross Park would be a great place for a national.
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njracer46 12/3/2014 2:07pm
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WW.. Yeah not many positive things I have to say about that place. Certainly will not be going back, I'll take bostwick any day over that place.
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Too hot down here during mx season.....98 degrees and 98 humidity
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njracer46 wrote:
WW.. Yeah not many positive things I have to say about that place. Certainly will not be going back, I'll take bostwick any day over that...
WW.. Yeah not many positive things I have to say about that place. Certainly will not be going back, I'll take bostwick any day over that place.
You're one of the very few that feel that way!
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
Freestone was to flat but use a bunch of gasoline and machinery and pile up a bunch of dirt piles in a field and it's better??

Don't worry bro, they will probably use diesel.
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njracer46 12/3/2014 4:12pm
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Gringoe wrote:
You're one of the very few that feel that way!
Yes I know, you all have seemed to have a good experience but I did not enjoy my time at this place. Say what you want but the track owner was a big part of that reason. I've been to most tracks in the northern/ central Florida area and this will be one that I will never be going back to.
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Preston412 12/3/2014 5:30pm
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Gringoe wrote:
You're one of the very few that feel that way!
njracer46 wrote:
Yes I know, you all have seemed to have a good experience but I did not enjoy my time at this place. Say what you want...
Yes I know, you all have seemed to have a good experience but I did not enjoy my time at this place. Say what you want but the track owner was a big part of that reason. I've been to most tracks in the northern/ central Florida area and this will be one that I will never be going back to.
Must have been a bad day for you and junior. I got almost two practice sessions in, around 25 minutes of ride time and fuel pump went out on my bike and Junior refunded me my fee.
ButteryWaffles 12/3/2014 5:55pm
12/3/2014 5:55pm
aFACEdismembered wrote:
It can be flat as a pancake for all I care. I just don't get why massive mounds of dirt have to be piled together to...
It can be flat as a pancake for all I care. I just don't get why massive mounds of dirt have to be piled together to make a track on flat land "good." To me, Lommel and Lierop (and plenty of other tracks) are amazing circuits on flat pieces of land.

Sure, big mounds of dirt catch the eye, but how good of a race track is it? Granted, I have not ridden it. Maybe my age and open motorsport passion makes me like tracks that are more about flowing through straights and corners with a few jumps thrown in for fun. Not a bunch of jumps with corners thrown in to make it a loop.
Not saying it won't make a good venue because I'm sure it will. I just enjoy "natural" tracks like Unadilla, Ironman, Budds etc. SX is flat, nationals should have natural elevation changes.

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njracer46 12/3/2014 5:55pm
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Preston412 wrote:
Must have been a bad day for you and junior. I got almost two practice sessions in, around 25 minutes of ride time and fuel pump...
Must have been a bad day for you and junior. I got almost two practice sessions in, around 25 minutes of ride time and fuel pump went out on my bike and Junior refunded me my fee.
We rode 2 practice sessions and going out for another one when he comes running up saying, tracks closed. This was around 1, he had to go out somewhere. After paying a high gate fee, high for Florida, normal for me up here. Didn't even mention he was shutting the track early that day. No refunds, no half day price, just hey you're pretty much screwed. I could have gone somewhere else if I would have known he was going to be closing early. When you're only down for a week, every bit of riding counts. I felt screwed. That was one of a few things that happened that day.

Like I said, I'm sure most of you have a had a good experience but I won't be going back.
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Jack mehoff 12/3/2014 6:31pm
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Preston412 wrote:
Must have been a bad day for you and junior. I got almost two practice sessions in, around 25 minutes of ride time and fuel pump...
Must have been a bad day for you and junior. I got almost two practice sessions in, around 25 minutes of ride time and fuel pump went out on my bike and Junior refunded me my fee.
njracer46 wrote:
We rode 2 practice sessions and going out for another one when he comes running up saying, tracks closed. This was around 1, he had to...
We rode 2 practice sessions and going out for another one when he comes running up saying, tracks closed. This was around 1, he had to go out somewhere. After paying a high gate fee, high for Florida, normal for me up here. Didn't even mention he was shutting the track early that day. No refunds, no half day price, just hey you're pretty much screwed. I could have gone somewhere else if I would have known he was going to be closing early. When you're only down for a week, every bit of riding counts. I felt screwed. That was one of a few things that happened that day.

Like I said, I'm sure most of you have a had a good experience but I won't be going back.
You should off invited him to look at something in the side door off your van and gave him a good old fashion NJ blanket party untill the money accidentally feel out off his pocket

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