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The one time I saw him in person was when they had the FMX shows during intermission at supercross, I think for only one year? My friends and I were in the pits at SF when we heard someone pulling some crazy wheelies on a two stroke. We ran over and lined the fence that separates the rider entrance/exit and the pits and watched him rip around in the parking lot. Afterward, he came through the entrance and pulled another wheelie about six inches away from us! Nothing too crazy, but I'll never forget that! I have a video of it somewhere, I just have to find it.
I'd bet this estimate is much more today.
Edit: just for the record, those images weren't there when I quoted that post.
pretty cool i thought
He can start with grass roots exposure. Meaning, he needs to get his personality on TV again. Truck racing etc. Then if he can get exposure he can begin to market his brand. Doesn't have to be warpt.
Nothing was cooler than watching him backflip at X in Jersey I think it was, grab another gear and Brrraaaaaap backflip the 2nd 85 foot double.
At that time, I doubt think he even believed that happened.
Sucks to see this, hope he isn't in pain every damn day!
Yes I agree. I even notated that in my original reply. You musta missed that part?
"Second, the difference in my eyes is that Deegan's company has been going at it for a very long time. It's not like all this popped up in the last couple years."
And you would be correct. This fact is proof it can be done.
"I think Deegan and his company are still benefiting from the image that has been well-established. Starting that from "scratch" more or less, would be very difficult with the state of things these days. "
Well, this is of course your opinion. And you are rightly entitled to have it. But this is also the main reason people fail to achieve. They look at the things in this manner. In today's world it is who you know. So the sit down with Deegan would be with the intention to set up those crucial contacts and go from there. You set up the marketing structure {including those contacts}. So in effect your system for success is in place before you begin. This is EVERYTHING. The reason why it took Deegan so long is because, as you stated he started from scratch with out these contacts. Once he built his brand then they would "talk to him" so to speak. So yes, he did all the hard work before. This is not a roll of the dice by any means. It is a sure thing (nearly) when done with the right people.
He probably made more from the commercials Newman mentioned.
Second, just because something can be done once, doesn't necessarily mean it can or would be duplicated.
Lastly, Why exactly would deegan want to set someone up to compete with his own brand?
But I appreciate your thoughts I will surely "fail to succeed" for having this viewpoint. I would argue that starting any business venture is a roll of the dice and never a "sure thing." That doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, but it doesn't hurt to be realistic when evaluating the plausibility of something.
Anyhoo, I don't really care to argue about a hypothetical situation any further.
Pit Row
I was there in person (judging the event) and it was absolutely insane. In the first round, he did one flip and the place went nuts. For the final, word was he was going to the two flips. Everyone was on pins and needles. He hit it so smooth. Couldn't have been done better.
Metz and I didn't see eye to eye a few times as the rider and a judge, but I sure did and still do respect the way he scratched and clawed his way to the top and reinvented himself time and time again.
It grew into a major brand way farther beyond the MX world.
No offense. But freestyle judging used to be a popularity contest(maybe it still is?). TP got a 95% for repeatedly performing nothing but backflips over and over during a qualifying round? Nobody should ever question the Godfather about anything freestyle related. Travis ended up being legit. But he was only widely accepted at the age of 12, after Metzger gave him the nod in Terrafirma 3.
On a side note, anyone ever see the bonus footage of Metzger at the end of one of the terrafirma movies? Maybe the third? Was at some supercross overseas and Metz was crashing/throwing the bike all over the place. Crowd was going insane. Quite possibly one of the best clips I've ever seen in a moto-related movie. Wish I had that video.
No. Well maybe, back in the very, very beginning.
No offense taken, but you (and lots of others) have no idea what goes into trying to judge a sport that is like judging surfing or any "free" sport for that matter. Where it is really a matter of opinion and not facts.
However, in any judged sport opinions will differ from judges to riders, riders to riders or even fans to both riders and judges.
But this thread is about Metz, judging is a whole other topic.
Metz was and still is a legend and was very influential in how contests were judged as well. He was very vocal and his voice was heavier than others when it came to figuring it all out. I hope he gets squared away and gets some payback for all that blood sweat and tears he poured into the sport he helped create.
super nice guy. never heard anyone say anything bad about him. It's a bummer that the fallout from his riding career has ended his other life passion which was tattooing (and also probably damaged his ability to draw in general as well).
this shit bums me out.
the other story over the last few years was racerx trying to track brian swink down for an interview and he was a divorced, struggling heavy equipment operator.
just flat out vanquished me illusions of $ and security for pro riders. Swink wasn't exactly a ham and egger and he was struggling mightily. long pro career and just back to blue collar dozer running.
wishing success for metz somewhere in the industry- paying him back for the goodwill he put out there would be a great action.
I can't believe he doesn't have a lot of money saved with everything he made from freestyle. I remember when he was one of the first guys flipping and couldn't believe how much he was rumored to get paid to flip! He had to make over a million in his career, don't you think?
I can relate to the back pain and not a second of every day that goes by, I have lower back pain due to breaking my back and a currently have a torn disc that is ruining my life! The Doctors say only a full disc replacement will fix me but my insurance doesn't cover it! I have lots of bad thought many times a week on how to end this pain…..
Hasn't he broke his back over 5 times?
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