MXoN is a Joke of a race

phlewy
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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 7:30pm
To not see the top 10 of American racers is a complete joke. Think of all the guys who DIDN'T get to race because of the skewed system on MXoN teams.

Its time to change the format. Start a points system that rewards the entire years racing so the top 12-15 guys qualify. Allow 2-4 or 6 captains picks. Bubba races (as a captains pick), Morais races, Wiemer races, Alessi races.... the list goes on and ON. wake up people!

Next.... fund the damn thing. Allow the top american's (based on whole year points system) race against the top non-americans (also whole year points) stop the country madness!

Lining up one country, belguim or spain or italy or england against the American depth is a complete joke. Absolute joke. Wake the hell up.

Make this race mean something. Line 20 top Americans against 20 top NON-AMERICANS, and lets go at it.

Wake up!! This race in it's current form is a laugh fest. Only a true idiot would cheer this "AMERICAN" win.
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9/30/2010 12:36am
So hillarious that in the last 2 years, US have been trailing after 2 moto's and only won the event in the last race. Yes they won and dominated this year but its still a great event.

Im saying next year, with Pourcel, Musquin and Paulin, France will be tough to beat and if thats tough, don't even think about leirop the year after.
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9/30/2010 12:39am
phlewy wrote:
To not see the top 10 of American racers is a complete joke. Think of all the guys who DIDN'T get to race because of the...
To not see the top 10 of American racers is a complete joke. Think of all the guys who DIDN'T get to race because of the skewed system on MXoN teams.

Its time to change the format. Start a points system that rewards the entire years racing so the top 12-15 guys qualify. Allow 2-4 or 6 captains picks. Bubba races (as a captains pick), Morais races, Wiemer races, Alessi races.... the list goes on and ON. wake up people!

Next.... fund the damn thing. Allow the top american's (based on whole year points system) race against the top non-americans (also whole year points) stop the country madness!

Lining up one country, belguim or spain or italy or england against the American depth is a complete joke. Absolute joke. Wake the hell up.

Make this race mean something. Line 20 top Americans against 20 top NON-AMERICANS, and lets go at it.

Wake up!! This race in it's current form is a laugh fest. Only a true idiot would cheer this "AMERICAN" win.
Obviously you were not there.
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9/30/2010 1:28am Edited Date/Time 9/30/2010 1:28am
Then it would not be the motocross of nations, it would be a new championship. I would like to see both but not at the expence of 63 years worth of tradition! (mxdn)
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Ask the guys sitting at home that should be racing. The MXoN tradition is exposed for the fraud it is in the current world... every year.

American dominance, year in year out, depends on the lack of depth on a country by country basis. Townley taking down Short is the only way to give the non-americans a chance. My-oh-My... as an american, YUCK!! This race... In It's current form is a JOKE!

I see nothing to cheer as an American. American depth beating up poor... poor latvia. WOW!!! Let me wrap myself in a flag. This year is nothing more than a Dungey parade lap. Everyone watching and hoping his bike doesn't quit or he doesn't fall down. YUCK!!!

This race is a JOKE!

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9/30/2010 1:55am
Sarcastic?? Hell no. The MXoN is a joke in it's current form.

It amazes me this is not obvious. It's a lousy race. The drama is completely manufactured, with nationalism run amok. People are blinded that a real contest COULD be waged. I don't take anything away from Dungey-Short-Canard. The form of this race is a joke, and those who support it are wasting thier money, year in-year out.

Only dolts and idiots think this is a real American victory.

Why not make it a real contest? Level the playing field. Top 20 (or so) Americans vs top 20 non Americans in a series of knock-out motos. Nationalism is served, American fair play is served, MX racing is served.

Without it? Count me out, it's a FARCE!!! Only stupid people think this was a real contest.
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What Are you going to call it? Amercan Takedown of The World? Can't wait for the AToTWs next year
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9/30/2010 2:34am
AMA top 20 vs FIM top 20. Thats the race I wanna see. I dont care about countryes, nations and patriotisms. Just moto.
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It has been this way, in various Moto formats for the past 60+ years, a formula that works and is well supported by teams, ridrs, fans and sponsors.
Why suddenly are the top 20 Americans the only riders you think the world wants to see?
Apart from Dungey, Canard , Villopoto, Short, Barcia etc, there isn't a lot of depth in US motocross at the moment, which is why the national top ten, particularly in the lites class is dominated by imported riders.
It is a WORLD Team championship and yes a lot of countries don't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning, but they have every right to be there!
Stick to watching WWF, NASCAR and Baseball World Series if all you are interested in is seeing homegrown talent.
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9/30/2010 2:37am
Its a little more than just a race! I would be willing to be bet most teams were happy to attend the race and show some pride for their country. A joke is not being able to recognize the fact that most teams there are enjoying the atmosphere and ability to run a Japanese flag as a background on the number plate for example.

I find it awesome that teams can compete against each other every weekend of the MX season and band together as a team for this race. The true joke is the lack of TV coverage and horrible live internet coverage.
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9/30/2010 2:45am
Apart from Dungey, Canard , Villopoto, Short, Barcia etc, there isn't a lot of depth in US motocross at the moment,

Apparently there's enough to add an "etc."

Depth on an individual nation basis is relative. Five top talents may still be more than a smaller nation has.
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9/30/2010 3:06am
Who in the world wouldn't prefer to watch this?


MX1

1 5 Ryan Dungey
2 24 Brett Metcalfe
3 29 Andrew Short
4 101 Ben Townley
5 800 Mike Alessi
6 55 Kyle Chisholm
7 33 Josh Grant
8 46 Ryan Sipes
9 41 Kyle Regal
11 1 Chad Reed
12 23 Justin Brayton
13 10 Thomas Hahn
14 14 Kevin Windham
15 122 Daniel Reardon
16 32 Kyle Cunningham
17 35 Matthew Goerke
18 26 Michael Byrne
19 18 David Millsaps
20 42 Ben Evans

vs

1 222 Cairoli, A.
2 25 Desalle, C.
3 19 Philippaerts, D.
4 2 Nagl, M.
5 11 Ramon, Steve
6 40 Leok, Tanel
7 121 Boog, Xavier
8 9 de Dycker, Ken
9 39 Guarneri, D.
10 777 Bobryshev, E.
11 22 Goncalves, Rui
12 6 Coppins, J.
14 8 Swanepoel, G
15 90 Pourcel, S.
16 10 Boissiere, A.
17 702 Albertson, J.
18 7 Barragan, J.
19 14 de Reuver, M.
20 331 Aubin, Nicolas


MX2


1 38 Trey Canard
2 28 Tyla Rattray
3 377 Christophe Pourcel
4 108 Dean Wilson
5 17 Justin Barcia
6 243 Eli Tomac
7 20 Broc Tickle
8 21 Blake Wharton
9 577 Martin Davalos
10 49 William Hahn
11 12 Jake Weimer
12 200 Cole Seely
13 36 Darryn Durham
14 19 Tommy Searle
15 341 Nico Izzi
16 87 Les Smith
17 61 Vince Friese
18 50 Alex Martin
19 31 Matthew Lemoine
20 48 Max Anstie

vs


1 1 Musquin, M.
2 94 Roczen, Ken
3 183 Frossard, S.
4 338 Osborne, Zach
5 34 Roelants, Joel
6 111 Herlings, J.
7 23 Tonus, Arnaud
8 11 Simpson, Shaun
9 89 van Horebeek, J.
10 21 Paulin, G.
11 151 Kullas, Harri
12 430 Charlier, C.
13 45 Nicholls, Jake
14 77 Lupino, A.
15 335 Verbruggen, D.
16 91 Karro, Matiss
17 37 Teillet, V.
18 35 Larsen, N.
19 170 Leib, Michael
20 75 Triest, Nick
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9/30/2010 3:08am
I wonder how many times we can use the term "wake up" in a thread.
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9/30/2010 4:30am
mmcmx wrote:
Who in the world wouldn't prefer to watch this? MX1 1 5 Ryan Dungey 2 24 Brett Metcalfe 3 29 Andrew Short 4 101 Ben Townley...
Who in the world wouldn't prefer to watch this?


MX1

1 5 Ryan Dungey
2 24 Brett Metcalfe
3 29 Andrew Short
4 101 Ben Townley
5 800 Mike Alessi
6 55 Kyle Chisholm
7 33 Josh Grant
8 46 Ryan Sipes
9 41 Kyle Regal
11 1 Chad Reed
12 23 Justin Brayton
13 10 Thomas Hahn
14 14 Kevin Windham
15 122 Daniel Reardon
16 32 Kyle Cunningham
17 35 Matthew Goerke
18 26 Michael Byrne
19 18 David Millsaps
20 42 Ben Evans

vs

1 222 Cairoli, A.
2 25 Desalle, C.
3 19 Philippaerts, D.
4 2 Nagl, M.
5 11 Ramon, Steve
6 40 Leok, Tanel
7 121 Boog, Xavier
8 9 de Dycker, Ken
9 39 Guarneri, D.
10 777 Bobryshev, E.
11 22 Goncalves, Rui
12 6 Coppins, J.
14 8 Swanepoel, G
15 90 Pourcel, S.
16 10 Boissiere, A.
17 702 Albertson, J.
18 7 Barragan, J.
19 14 de Reuver, M.
20 331 Aubin, Nicolas


MX2


1 38 Trey Canard
2 28 Tyla Rattray
3 377 Christophe Pourcel
4 108 Dean Wilson
5 17 Justin Barcia
6 243 Eli Tomac
7 20 Broc Tickle
8 21 Blake Wharton
9 577 Martin Davalos
10 49 William Hahn
11 12 Jake Weimer
12 200 Cole Seely
13 36 Darryn Durham
14 19 Tommy Searle
15 341 Nico Izzi
16 87 Les Smith
17 61 Vince Friese
18 50 Alex Martin
19 31 Matthew Lemoine
20 48 Max Anstie

vs


1 1 Musquin, M.
2 94 Roczen, Ken
3 183 Frossard, S.
4 338 Osborne, Zach
5 34 Roelants, Joel
6 111 Herlings, J.
7 23 Tonus, Arnaud
8 11 Simpson, Shaun
9 89 van Horebeek, J.
10 21 Paulin, G.
11 151 Kullas, Harri
12 430 Charlier, C.
13 45 Nicholls, Jake
14 77 Lupino, A.
15 335 Verbruggen, D.
16 91 Karro, Matiss
17 37 Teillet, V.
18 35 Larsen, N.
19 170 Leib, Michael
20 75 Triest, Nick
I have to admit, that would be a pretty cool race.
But, can you imagine trying to figure out the points, and which team is leading?
It's hard enough as it is.
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9/30/2010 4:32am
mmcmx wrote:
Who in the world wouldn't prefer to watch this? MX1 1 5 Ryan Dungey 2 24 Brett Metcalfe 3 29 Andrew Short 4 101 Ben Townley...
Who in the world wouldn't prefer to watch this?


MX1

1 5 Ryan Dungey
2 24 Brett Metcalfe
3 29 Andrew Short
4 101 Ben Townley
5 800 Mike Alessi
6 55 Kyle Chisholm
7 33 Josh Grant
8 46 Ryan Sipes
9 41 Kyle Regal
11 1 Chad Reed
12 23 Justin Brayton
13 10 Thomas Hahn
14 14 Kevin Windham
15 122 Daniel Reardon
16 32 Kyle Cunningham
17 35 Matthew Goerke
18 26 Michael Byrne
19 18 David Millsaps
20 42 Ben Evans

vs

1 222 Cairoli, A.
2 25 Desalle, C.
3 19 Philippaerts, D.
4 2 Nagl, M.
5 11 Ramon, Steve
6 40 Leok, Tanel
7 121 Boog, Xavier
8 9 de Dycker, Ken
9 39 Guarneri, D.
10 777 Bobryshev, E.
11 22 Goncalves, Rui
12 6 Coppins, J.
14 8 Swanepoel, G
15 90 Pourcel, S.
16 10 Boissiere, A.
17 702 Albertson, J.
18 7 Barragan, J.
19 14 de Reuver, M.
20 331 Aubin, Nicolas


MX2


1 38 Trey Canard
2 28 Tyla Rattray
3 377 Christophe Pourcel
4 108 Dean Wilson
5 17 Justin Barcia
6 243 Eli Tomac
7 20 Broc Tickle
8 21 Blake Wharton
9 577 Martin Davalos
10 49 William Hahn
11 12 Jake Weimer
12 200 Cole Seely
13 36 Darryn Durham
14 19 Tommy Searle
15 341 Nico Izzi
16 87 Les Smith
17 61 Vince Friese
18 50 Alex Martin
19 31 Matthew Lemoine
20 48 Max Anstie

vs


1 1 Musquin, M.
2 94 Roczen, Ken
3 183 Frossard, S.
4 338 Osborne, Zach
5 34 Roelants, Joel
6 111 Herlings, J.
7 23 Tonus, Arnaud
8 11 Simpson, Shaun
9 89 van Horebeek, J.
10 21 Paulin, G.
11 151 Kullas, Harri
12 430 Charlier, C.
13 45 Nicholls, Jake
14 77 Lupino, A.
15 335 Verbruggen, D.
16 91 Karro, Matiss
17 37 Teillet, V.
18 35 Larsen, N.
19 170 Leib, Michael
20 75 Triest, Nick
Me.
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Yep MXoN is a Joke, just like the Olympics hey!

Maybe they should also split the Olympics up have a USA team sent, A European team, and Asian team, a team from China, A combined Commenwealth team, dont worry about national pride for the rest of the countries!!!

It is called the MXoN for a reason, it is a race of Country V Country a team race where the best from each country come to race, and it should NEVER change.

Want to see the top American riders race, watch the freeking great AMA series you already have! Want to watch the top Euros battle it out Watch the World GPs!,

If you dont like the concept of the MXoN dont watch it, leave the rest of us to enjoy it, better yet enjoy the American run of wins, it will not always last, they will be beaten again one day and it only takes a generation of top riders from one country to come along and it will be someone elses turn to dominate for awhile.
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9/30/2010 5:04am
mmcmx wrote:
Who in the world wouldn't prefer to watch this? MX1 1 5 Ryan Dungey 2 24 Brett Metcalfe 3 29 Andrew Short 4 101 Ben Townley...
Who in the world wouldn't prefer to watch this?


MX1

1 5 Ryan Dungey
2 24 Brett Metcalfe
3 29 Andrew Short
4 101 Ben Townley
5 800 Mike Alessi
6 55 Kyle Chisholm
7 33 Josh Grant
8 46 Ryan Sipes
9 41 Kyle Regal
11 1 Chad Reed
12 23 Justin Brayton
13 10 Thomas Hahn
14 14 Kevin Windham
15 122 Daniel Reardon
16 32 Kyle Cunningham
17 35 Matthew Goerke
18 26 Michael Byrne
19 18 David Millsaps
20 42 Ben Evans

vs

1 222 Cairoli, A.
2 25 Desalle, C.
3 19 Philippaerts, D.
4 2 Nagl, M.
5 11 Ramon, Steve
6 40 Leok, Tanel
7 121 Boog, Xavier
8 9 de Dycker, Ken
9 39 Guarneri, D.
10 777 Bobryshev, E.
11 22 Goncalves, Rui
12 6 Coppins, J.
14 8 Swanepoel, G
15 90 Pourcel, S.
16 10 Boissiere, A.
17 702 Albertson, J.
18 7 Barragan, J.
19 14 de Reuver, M.
20 331 Aubin, Nicolas


MX2


1 38 Trey Canard
2 28 Tyla Rattray
3 377 Christophe Pourcel
4 108 Dean Wilson
5 17 Justin Barcia
6 243 Eli Tomac
7 20 Broc Tickle
8 21 Blake Wharton
9 577 Martin Davalos
10 49 William Hahn
11 12 Jake Weimer
12 200 Cole Seely
13 36 Darryn Durham
14 19 Tommy Searle
15 341 Nico Izzi
16 87 Les Smith
17 61 Vince Friese
18 50 Alex Martin
19 31 Matthew Lemoine
20 48 Max Anstie

vs


1 1 Musquin, M.
2 94 Roczen, Ken
3 183 Frossard, S.
4 338 Osborne, Zach
5 34 Roelants, Joel
6 111 Herlings, J.
7 23 Tonus, Arnaud
8 11 Simpson, Shaun
9 89 van Horebeek, J.
10 21 Paulin, G.
11 151 Kullas, Harri
12 430 Charlier, C.
13 45 Nicholls, Jake
14 77 Lupino, A.
15 335 Verbruggen, D.
16 91 Karro, Matiss
17 37 Teillet, V.
18 35 Larsen, N.
19 170 Leib, Michael
20 75 Triest, Nick
The initial idea was to pit the top 20 Americans vs top 20 Non American. Not the top 20 from each series.

This is where the whole argument/debate always gets totally confused because which series is best and which country has the best riders are two completely different things.
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9/30/2010 5:14am
Wow, some of you people act so ignorant...this isn't a USA vs EUROPE or USA vs THE WORLD race. It is an international race where countries are invited, yes that includes the USA but each country sends a rider for each class, how in the hell can you justify changing that???
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9/30/2010 5:29am
The US is on a tear right now, but that does not mean it will continue. Bad luck is part of this race, look at Australia that never sniffed a podium with Reed, Metcalfe, and Byrne on the team. Or Italy last year. Bad luck will strike the US some day, some other country (probably Belgium or France) will win it, and threads like this will go away.

Just for the record, I'm not saying that it will take bad luck to beat the US. France's team next year and 2012 looks really good. If Ramon can stay at a top level and VanHorebeek (sp?) steps it up just a bit, they could beat us. If Germany finds a MX3 rider.

Yes, it would be fun to watch the race order you listed. No, they should not change the MXoN, which is the best race of the year. If MXoN is a joke, WTF is supercross?
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9/30/2010 5:52am
MXON is the best race of the year....

If Americans want to race in an individual world championship they know where to come...

A ryder cup style European born riders v American (not AMA v FIM) born riders would be great... but not to replace the MXDN it would be in addition to it.
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9/30/2010 5:58am
joemamma wrote:
I wonder how many times we can use the term "wake up" in a thread.








there's more where that came from Silly
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9/30/2010 5:59am Edited Date/Time 9/30/2010 6:02am
mmcmx wrote:
Who in the world wouldn't prefer to watch this? MX1 1 5 Ryan Dungey 2 24 Brett Metcalfe 3 29 Andrew Short 4 101 Ben Townley...
Who in the world wouldn't prefer to watch this?


MX1

1 5 Ryan Dungey
2 24 Brett Metcalfe
3 29 Andrew Short
4 101 Ben Townley
5 800 Mike Alessi
6 55 Kyle Chisholm
7 33 Josh Grant
8 46 Ryan Sipes
9 41 Kyle Regal
11 1 Chad Reed
12 23 Justin Brayton
13 10 Thomas Hahn
14 14 Kevin Windham
15 122 Daniel Reardon
16 32 Kyle Cunningham
17 35 Matthew Goerke
18 26 Michael Byrne
19 18 David Millsaps
20 42 Ben Evans

vs

1 222 Cairoli, A.
2 25 Desalle, C.
3 19 Philippaerts, D.
4 2 Nagl, M.
5 11 Ramon, Steve
6 40 Leok, Tanel
7 121 Boog, Xavier
8 9 de Dycker, Ken
9 39 Guarneri, D.
10 777 Bobryshev, E.
11 22 Goncalves, Rui
12 6 Coppins, J.
14 8 Swanepoel, G
15 90 Pourcel, S.
16 10 Boissiere, A.
17 702 Albertson, J.
18 7 Barragan, J.
19 14 de Reuver, M.
20 331 Aubin, Nicolas


MX2


1 38 Trey Canard
2 28 Tyla Rattray
3 377 Christophe Pourcel
4 108 Dean Wilson
5 17 Justin Barcia
6 243 Eli Tomac
7 20 Broc Tickle
8 21 Blake Wharton
9 577 Martin Davalos
10 49 William Hahn
11 12 Jake Weimer
12 200 Cole Seely
13 36 Darryn Durham
14 19 Tommy Searle
15 341 Nico Izzi
16 87 Les Smith
17 61 Vince Friese
18 50 Alex Martin
19 31 Matthew Lemoine
20 48 Max Anstie

vs


1 1 Musquin, M.
2 94 Roczen, Ken
3 183 Frossard, S.
4 338 Osborne, Zach
5 34 Roelants, Joel
6 111 Herlings, J.
7 23 Tonus, Arnaud
8 11 Simpson, Shaun
9 89 van Horebeek, J.
10 21 Paulin, G.
11 151 Kullas, Harri
12 430 Charlier, C.
13 45 Nicholls, Jake
14 77 Lupino, A.
15 335 Verbruggen, D.
16 91 Karro, Matiss
17 37 Teillet, V.
18 35 Larsen, N.
19 170 Leib, Michael
20 75 Triest, Nick
jamma10 wrote:
The initial idea was to pit the top 20 Americans vs top 20 Non American. Not the top 20 from each series. This is where the...
The initial idea was to pit the top 20 Americans vs top 20 Non American. Not the top 20 from each series.

This is where the whole argument/debate always gets totally confused because which series is best and which country has the best riders are two completely different things.
I agree totally... it should be European born riders v American riders like the ryder cup... AMericans love to say they are better than Europe and constantly talk about Europe this and that... this would show Europeans are just as good on a group level.. although you would think looking at the success of European riders in the GPs and AMA this would be obvious already...


top 10 MX2 European riders v top 10 American riders
top 10 MX1 European riders v top 10 American riders

then you could have 10 ROW riders MX2 and MX1

2 35 plus 2lap motos... in their separate classes. 30 riders on each gate...simples.. or the USA guys could just race the GPs.....just a thought. Wink
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9/30/2010 6:04am
Surely the Australian guys would be pissed to not be part of this masterplan?
mccread
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9/30/2010 6:12am Edited Date/Time 9/30/2010 6:12am
robkinuk wrote:
Surely the Australian guys would be pissed to not be part of this masterplan?
In my race they would be under Rest Of World... Smile

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9/30/2010 6:29am Edited Date/Time 9/30/2010 6:31am
What a cracker ass!!!!



You make it sound like team america completey dominated and nobody else was even close. Go take another look at the results!



MX1 Dungey

MX2 Roczen

MX3 Desalle Doesn't look like an american white wash to me?



The reason america do so well is that you have enough talent to be able to take 3 riders all capable of top 5 in their respective class, even after faster riders have missed selection with injury. Lots of countries only have 1 or maybe 2 such riders. The overall difference between Dungey, Townley, Cairoli, Desalle etc is very small, they are all capable of winning or getting on the podium. But it's the 2nd and 3rd riders that other teams seem to be missing. France, Belgium, Australia, New Zealand, Germany and Italy all had riders that could or did win, but don't have the depth to secure top places in the other classes.



I don't think the overall speed of the fastest men from any country (or series) is greater than the ohter, just that america seems to have a lot more of them at the moment.
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9/30/2010 6:31am
mmcmx wrote:
AMA top 20 vs FIM top 20. Thats the race I wanna see. I dont care about countryes, nations and patriotisms. Just moto.
yes, i wanna see too. problem is ama riders are not interested riding in fim world championship,because they deserve more money in usa. maybe in 2030 when youthstreme is no longer a promoter
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9/30/2010 6:32am
phlewy wrote:
To not see the top 10 of American racers is a complete joke. Think of all the guys who DIDN'T get to race because of the...
To not see the top 10 of American racers is a complete joke. Think of all the guys who DIDN'T get to race because of the skewed system on MXoN teams.

Its time to change the format. Start a points system that rewards the entire years racing so the top 12-15 guys qualify. Allow 2-4 or 6 captains picks. Bubba races (as a captains pick), Morais races, Wiemer races, Alessi races.... the list goes on and ON. wake up people!

Next.... fund the damn thing. Allow the top american's (based on whole year points system) race against the top non-americans (also whole year points) stop the country madness!

Lining up one country, belguim or spain or italy or england against the American depth is a complete joke. Absolute joke. Wake the hell up.

Make this race mean something. Line 20 top Americans against 20 top NON-AMERICANS, and lets go at it.

Wake up!! This race in it's current form is a laugh fest. Only a true idiot would cheer this "AMERICAN" win.
That must be some really good weed that you're smoking.
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9/30/2010 6:34am
The only suggestion I have is to change the format slightly. Get rid of the B race and have 3 separate classes. Each country will send their best MX1, MX2 and MX3 rider and they will do 2 motos throughout the day. This way more countries will be represented in each race (no need for B final) and there can never be any team tactics. It will also give the riders more of a rest in between motos. 40 countries on line in MX1, MX2 and MX3. 6 motos. rough track. perfect IMO. Roczen won the MX2 class with 6-3 moto scores. They obviously can't get a start against the open bikes or 450s. i think it just levels the playing field.

(Yes I'm aware of RV in 2007 winning, but in general)
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9/30/2010 6:43am
phlewy wrote:
To not see the top 10 of American racers is a complete joke. Think of all the guys who DIDN'T get to race because of the...
To not see the top 10 of American racers is a complete joke. Think of all the guys who DIDN'T get to race because of the skewed system on MXoN teams.

Its time to change the format. Start a points system that rewards the entire years racing so the top 12-15 guys qualify. Allow 2-4 or 6 captains picks. Bubba races (as a captains pick), Morais races, Wiemer races, Alessi races.... the list goes on and ON. wake up people!

Next.... fund the damn thing. Allow the top american's (based on whole year points system) race against the top non-americans (also whole year points) stop the country madness!

Lining up one country, belguim or spain or italy or england against the American depth is a complete joke. Absolute joke. Wake the hell up.

Make this race mean something. Line 20 top Americans against 20 top NON-AMERICANS, and lets go at it.

Wake up!! This race in it's current form is a laugh fest. Only a true idiot would cheer this "AMERICAN" win.
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