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MEC, a lot on the line for Dungey.

10/10/2012 12:13 PM

Just looking for opinions. Does Dungey have a lot to prove at the MEC? He basically walked through the Nats after Stewy went out. Lots of talk about him not beating the best and that his title is hollow (which I think is bullshit). Honestly though, with people coming back from injury and the KTM guys now having a year on the bike, what is the mindset in the KTM pit if they come out 3rd or 4th at the MEC? Is anything other than a Dominating performance going to cause concern over there?

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10/10/2012 12:15 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/10/2012 12:16 PM

I'd say he proved himself already at Phoenix this year.

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10/10/2012 12:26 PM

Winning is always good PR for any top rider and team but IMO, MEC is a publicity gig for the change with teams and sponsors. It will be more interesting this year to see how all the top signed amatuers do against each other.
Villopoto, Reed and Stewart need to show something while Dungey just needs to have fun and be ready for A1.

Also, I think the Joker lane and split start is STUPID..

10/10/2012 12:26 PM

He has a lot to prove and he should be nervous. There will be 5 top guys there he didn't have to face outdoors. Plus JS.

The guys who pay for the series and the guys who the team manager answers to are the SAME guys...
Whats so hard to understand about that???

(Oh yeah, the above comments may be biased towards my own philosophophy)

10/10/2012 12:26 PM

I think the $million is pretty safe this year ... i.e. no sweep this year.

10/10/2012 12:31 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/10/2012 12:32 PM

RbR wrote: I think the $million is pretty safe this year ... i.e. no sweep this year.

i would never count RV out of anything.... but i think you're right.

if anything, i say RV wins 2 out of 3

to the OP, just don't listen to the troll's who discount Dungey's championships

kcco

10/10/2012 12:37 PM

RbR wrote: I think the $million is pretty safe this year ... i.e. no sweep this year.

Isn't this what everybody said last year?

10/10/2012 12:39 PM

It is not about peaking your SX program in October, they are "building" it to peak when the real season starts.

...but that cool mil sure would be nice!

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10/10/2012 12:40 PM

Gotta admit I read MEC, but my mind told me MEG. Then I started thinking about an email with some pictures. Then I read the rest of the title.

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10/10/2012 12:43 PM

I'm thinking Barcia wins a race or a heat .. or a holeshot .. or a door prize .. or something. all i know is that he's going to win something ...

10/10/2012 12:44 PM

i would think dungey should WIN. the other guys havent raced in awhile and while they me be as fast or faster i think the time on the bike counts alot. dungeys in race mode right now and the rest are going towards it. all i want to see is good racing and everyone getting out of there safely

10/10/2012 12:59 PM

"all i want to see is good racing and everyone getting out of there safely "

ditto! so much is riding on 2013 SX, the potential of talent on the 450 line next year is unreal!

-OC
"Feed The Bull"

10/10/2012 1:15 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/10/2012 1:18 PM

I think Dungey has a lot to "protect".... He's been racing and is in that frame of mind. RV and Reed are the ones coming off of injuries. If they can come in and beat Dungey after being out of RACING for several months, it won't look good for Dungey and will give more ammo to those who thinks he only wins championships when the other big boys are on the sidelines. Now, over the past few years, Dungey hasn't done anytthing to prove that not true, but I believe he is as fast as RV, CR or JS in MX or SX, but the FACT remains, he hasn't won a title when those guys were there all year.

Anyway, I think if Dungey gets beat by RV, CR or JS, it will get into his head for the SX season. Personally I believe he will be the most prepared and best rider there that night. Just to be clear, RV is the rider I would rather see win it all, but my racing sense says Dungey is the man to beat at the MEC...

10/10/2012 1:42 PM

Sorry for the unrelated question but what's the deal with the joker lane? I also feel though Dungey has a lot to prove. If Reed/Villo/Stewy come in and dominate Dunge it will definitely give naysayers a lot more ammo that his championship was only won because he was the only top guy there.

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Word.

10/10/2012 1:52 PM

maybe getting hammered in the sandpit will motivate RD to be a litle aggressive for a change.

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10/10/2012 2:25 PM

I bet Dungey does what Dungey always does...he'll take a win when it's presented to him, he won't force the issue, won't ride over his head, won't make mistakes, and will settle for a 2nd or 3rd if that's all he's got on the day. That stratgy isn't the best for winning a million bucks at a one-off race...but, its a proven strategy for staying healthy during a championship series and thus for winning championships.

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10/10/2012 2:34 PM

Titan1 wrote: I bet Dungey does what Dungey always does...he'll take a win when it's presented to him, he won't force the issue, won't ride over his head, won't make mistakes, and will settle for a 2nd or 3rd if that's all he's got on the day. That stratgy isn't the best for winning a million bucks at a one-off race...but, its a proven strategy for staying healthy during a championship series and thus for winning championships.

you wouldn't be headed out to Cherry Creek "just cuz" this weekend by chance, would you?

kcco

10/10/2012 2:52 PM

Titan1 wrote: I bet Dungey does what Dungey always does...he'll take a win when it's presented to him, he won't force the issue, won't ride over his head, won't make mistakes, and will settle for a 2nd or 3rd if that's all he's got on the day. That stratgy isn't the best for winning a million bucks at a one-off race...but, its a proven strategy for staying healthy during a championship series and thus for winning championships.

^^this.

10/10/2012 2:53 PM

hartebreak wrote: Just looking for opinions. Does Dungey have a lot to prove at the MEC? He basically walked through the Nats after Stewy went out. Lots of talk about him not beating the best and that his title is hollow (which I think is bullshit). Honestly though, with people coming back from injury and the KTM guys now having a year on the bike, what is the mindset in the KTM pit if they come out 3rd or 4th at the MEC? Is anything other than a Dominating performance going to cause concern over there?

he is not the fastest 1 race racer.or 3 races in one event...
your stewarts and villipoto's are.*dont read into that to much since they both have brothers racing.

10/10/2012 2:53 PM

motokawi818 wrote: Sorry for the unrelated question but what's the deal with the joker lane? I also feel though Dungey has a lot to prove. If Reed/Villo/Stewy come in and dominate Dunge it will definitely give naysayers a lot more ammo that his championship was only won because he was the only top guy there.

Have you watched all the vids they have put up?

Here is one:

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10/10/2012 3:08 PM

Titan1 wrote: I bet Dungey does what Dungey always does...he'll take a win when it's presented to him, he won't force the issue, won't ride over his head, won't make mistakes, and will settle for a 2nd or 3rd if that's all he's got on the day. That stratgy isn't the best for winning a million bucks at a one-off race...but, its a proven strategy for staying healthy during a championship series and thus for winning championships.

peelout wrote: you wouldn't be headed out to Cherry Creek "just cuz" this weekend by chance, would you?

I wish! I love that place. I'm headed to Price to watch my brother in his last high school home football game. Then riding down there on Saturday morning.

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10/10/2012 3:29 PM

A man who's 2nd on the all time MX wins list after only 3 seasons has nothing to prove to anybody. It's not his fault the other guys can't stay healthy like he can.

10/10/2012 3:48 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/10/2012 3:51 PM

TDeath21 wrote: A man who's 2nd on the all time MX wins list after only 3 seasons has nothing to prove to anybody. It's not his fault the other guys can't stay healthy like he can.

You can say that, its right 'on paper' and its convenient for the Dungetards (not saying you are one), but I highly doubt thats what Dungey (or his team) thinks. I expect he thinks he has A LOT to prove and he's hungry to do it.

I think all the top 5 have a lot to prove at this race for different reasons though. If they don't win, after the race it will "just be a warm up race, don't matter" - but I think if anyone stomps this race like RV did last year it will be a good indicator of whats to come in 2013.

10/10/2012 4:00 PM

TDeath21 wrote: A man who's 2nd on the all time MX wins list after only 3 seasons has nothing to prove to anybody. It's not his fault the other guys can't stay healthy like he can.

burnside wrote: You can say that, its right 'on paper' and its convenient for the Dungetards (not saying you are one), but I highly doubt thats what Dungey (or his team) thinks. I expect he thinks he has A LOT to prove and he's hungry to do it.

I think all the top 5 have a lot to prove at this race for different reasons though. If they don't win, after the race it will "just be a warm up race, don't matter" - but I think if anyone stomps this race like RV did last year it will be a good indicator of whats to come in 2013.

but I think if anyone stomps this race like RV did last year it will be a good indicator of whats to come in 2013.


good point. the 2011 MEC was a damn good indicator of what we would see from RV in 2012 SX. it's too bad his season was cut short

kcco

10/10/2012 4:17 PM

ty159 wrote: I think Dungey has a lot to "protect".... He's been racing and is in that frame of mind. RV and Reed are the ones coming off of injuries. If they can come in and beat Dungey after being out of RACING for several months, it won't look good for Dungey and will give more ammo to those who thinks he only wins championships when the other big boys are on the sidelines. Now, over the past few years, Dungey hasn't done anytthing to prove that not true, but I believe he is as fast as RV, CR or JS in MX or SX, but the FACT remains, he hasn't won a title when those guys were there all year.

Anyway, I think if Dungey gets beat by RV, CR or JS, it will get into his head for the SX season. Personally I believe he will be the most prepared and best rider there that night. Just to be clear, RV is the rider I would rather see win it all, but my racing sense says Dungey is the man to beat at the MEC...

Dungey hasn't done anytthing to prove that not true, but I believe he is as fast as RV, CR or JS in MX or SX, but the FACT remains, he hasn't won a title when those guys were there all year.

So which one of these riders has won a title with ALL those guys being there all year?

10/10/2012 4:20 PM

He doesn't have to prove anything on a one off non points race.

10/10/2012 4:26 PM

I'm alright with the joker lane. It's a nice change and mixes it up a bit. I'm quite positive that the safety concerns will be addressed and incorporates a different aspect of strategy into the race.

As for Dungey, I don't think his showing at MEC is going to set the precedent for the way the was the SX season is going to go. Dungey works the opposite of that actually. Getting a third or forth will make him train that much harder.

10/10/2012 4:36 PM

426Hemi wrote: He doesn't have to prove anything on a one off non points race.

Someone gets it. Yes the 4-time National champ, who's in the points every year no matter who's on the line, has so much to lose at a one off race

10/10/2012 4:37 PM

This years MEC would be the worst race to try and "prove" something. Gate and joker lane strategy are to much of a factor this year.

No one has anything to prove in my opinion.

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10/10/2012 4:40 PM

agn5009 wrote: Dungey hasn't done anytthing to prove that not true, but I believe he is as fast as RV, CR or JS in MX or SX, but the FACT remains, he hasn't won a title when those guys were there all year.

So which one of these riders has won a title with ALL those guys being there all year?

RV

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