Kyle Regal wants to....

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Edited Date/Time 4/23/2016 2:22pm
race a Husky 250 2 smoke outdoors but needs some help to make it happen.

See his post from yesterday - https://www.instagram.com/p/BEZ3mP2Gprh/?taken-by=kyle_regal&hl=en



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4/20/2016 1:35pm
I don't have Instagram. Someone get Kyle on here or get a legit donation set up and I am ready to contribute.
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4/20/2016 1:41pm
That would be sick.

What track would he do best at y'all think? Sand? Hard Packed?
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4/20/2016 2:16pm
RPM68 wrote:
That would be sick.

What track would he do best at y'all think? Sand? Hard Packed?
Hard packed tracks would be my guess. Hope this works out for him!
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4/20/2016 2:25pm
Add Steinke with 125 and there you would have a dream team!

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4/20/2016 2:53pm
RPM68 wrote:
That would be sick.

What track would he do best at y'all think? Sand? Hard Packed?
imoto34 wrote:
Hard packed tracks would be my guess. Hope this works out for him!
You seriously think a 2 stroke is better on hard pack? Have you ever ridden a 2 stroke, or a 4 stroke?
4/20/2016 3:00pm
RPM68 wrote:
That would be sick.

What track would he do best at y'all think? Sand? Hard Packed?
imoto34 wrote:
Hard packed tracks would be my guess. Hope this works out for him!
GrapeApe wrote:
You seriously think a 2 stroke is better on hard pack? Have you ever ridden a 2 stroke, or a 4 stroke?
Well I think he said it thinking of deep tilled spongy tracks where the 2 smoke would get bogged down compared to the heavy tork of the 450s. Sand wouldn't be great either...not that you guys have any sand tracks left in the nationals...

4/20/2016 3:19pm Edited Date/Time 4/20/2016 3:22pm
Well I think he said it thinking of deep tilled spongy tracks where the 2 smoke would get bogged down compared to the heavy tork of...
Well I think he said it thinking of deep tilled spongy tracks where the 2 smoke would get bogged down compared to the heavy tork of the 450s. Sand wouldn't be great either...not that you guys have any sand tracks left in the nationals...

Sand on a 250 isn't bad. It's strong enough to not get bogged down and easier to ride in the sweet spot. But, the used to be weight advantage to help float on top is all but gone now.

The worst thing about riding a 2 stroke against all the 4 strokes besides the power disadvantage is the line choice. 1 guy making lines specifically for the power delivery of a 2 stroke, against 39 others with a different idea, is just impossible. You have to use lines catered to a 4 stroke.
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4/20/2016 3:32pm
Sand on a 250 isn't bad. It's strong enough to not get bogged down and easier to ride in the sweet spot. But, the [i]used[/i] to...
Sand on a 250 isn't bad. It's strong enough to not get bogged down and easier to ride in the sweet spot. But, the used to be weight advantage to help float on top is all but gone now.

The worst thing about riding a 2 stroke against all the 4 strokes besides the power disadvantage is the line choice. 1 guy making lines specifically for the power delivery of a 2 stroke, against 39 others with a different idea, is just impossible. You have to use lines catered to a 4 stroke.
In my limited experience it isn't necessarily the weight of the 2 stroke that makes it float it in the sand better, but the snappy throttle response and lack of engine braking. And I do believe the weight limit for a 250 2 stroke is still below a 450f.
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4/20/2016 4:11pm Edited Date/Time 4/20/2016 4:12pm
That's a tough choice. He's probably thinking of the exposure he'd get if he posted a couple decent finishes on it and it would be fun to watch but is it worth all of the pain it'll take to get it there? 250 vs. 250 would be a good race but 250 vs. 450 seems quite the disadvantage.
4/20/2016 4:19pm
imoto34 wrote:
Hard packed tracks would be my guess. Hope this works out for him!
GrapeApe wrote:
You seriously think a 2 stroke is better on hard pack? Have you ever ridden a 2 stroke, or a 4 stroke?
Well I think he said it thinking of deep tilled spongy tracks where the 2 smoke would get bogged down compared to the heavy tork of...
Well I think he said it thinking of deep tilled spongy tracks where the 2 smoke would get bogged down compared to the heavy tork of the 450s. Sand wouldn't be great either...not that you guys have any sand tracks left in the nationals...

I guess southwick doesn't count as a sand track?
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4/20/2016 4:42pm
Didn't he try the same thing last year and get no support?
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4/20/2016 4:51pm
disbanded wrote:
Seems like a ridiculous idea
Knife to a gunfight, bring a 450, be competitive.
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4/20/2016 4:59pm
Not sure it's a great idea, but Regal is a guy I like watching at the Nationals... He's pretty strong outdoors.
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4/20/2016 5:05pm
I guess southwick doesn't count as a sand track?
It is by American standards. It can't hold a candle to Lierop or Lommel though.
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4/20/2016 5:08pm
Crush wrote:
Not sure it's a great idea, but Regal is a guy I like watching at the Nationals... He's pretty strong outdoors.
Agreed, if he s not spending his $$, why not. Wasting someone elses though. Regal rips but riding the smoker is burning $$ away.
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4/20/2016 5:28pm
why do you zimmers post threads saying bla bla bla...your a goon dude
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4/20/2016 9:45pm Edited Date/Time 4/20/2016 9:49pm
Is the Husky 250 2 stroke a homologated model even?
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KTM makes a 300cc kit that really brings these bikes up another level. Not saying it becomes factory 450 level but it narrows the gap to a standard 450 a lot. It's really sad and pathetic that after over a decade of 4 stroke dominance, a 300cc two stroke is not allowed to race a 450, and a 150cc two stroke cannot race against a 250F. Yes, the rules still actually prohibit this.

If you showed up to the Foxboro supercross this week with a KTM250SX with the 300cc cylinder they make, you would not be allowed to race.

The unleaded fuel rule also slaughtered the potential of these things.
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4/20/2016 9:55pm
Surprised he didn't start a gofund me
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4/20/2016 9:56pm
On a new 2017, Hopefully Husky or KTM see's Regal and Stank as an opportunity to promote their new 2 strokes! I bought 2 stankin shirts last yr! I'm in for helping Regal as well!
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4/20/2016 10:04pm
Where's all the 2-stroke support? Everyone preaches they want someone to race a two stroke and now there's someone that wants to do it, and has the speed to, but needs some financial help to make the races. The hive mind in here is "Dude would just get smoked, he's at such a disadvantage. Not even worth it."

The hell? If I wasn't so strapped at the moment, I'd love to help. Seeing Steinke rip the 125 last year was a highlight for me! Hopefully he can make a few and qualify.
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4/20/2016 10:15pm
aeffertz wrote:
Where's all the 2-stroke support? Everyone preaches they want someone to race a two stroke and now there's someone that wants to do it, and has...
Where's all the 2-stroke support? Everyone preaches they want someone to race a two stroke and now there's someone that wants to do it, and has the speed to, but needs some financial help to make the races. The hive mind in here is "Dude would just get smoked, he's at such a disadvantage. Not even worth it."

The hell? If I wasn't so strapped at the moment, I'd love to help. Seeing Steinke rip the 125 last year was a highlight for me! Hopefully he can make a few and qualify.
I would love & support him if he could race the Husky in the "250" class. Sad
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4/20/2016 11:16pm Edited Date/Time 4/20/2016 11:23pm
I've gone looking for the 'Homologation' listing for 2016, but, being because (I think) I'm a 'puter dummie and can barely work the internet, all I can find is the 2015 listing, which shows the 2015 KTHusky 250 2T, the 2013 to 2015KTM, and the 2010 Yamaha.

Not sure if their homologations are still in place, been extended / 're-upped'.

Kyle's a ' big boy' with a fairly high profile. If he can't get help from at least Husky / KTM in the form of bikes and parts, well, it would be a bit weird. Politically, perhaps ktHusky might be the most logical one.

If he gets the big stuff in place, I'd certainly help - I did so with the 2StrokeMotocross web sites effort a couple of years ago, giving $100 US -a piddly amount, I know, but something, at least.

It's pathetic that even "over-bored by the factory" 150s (yes, I know the 150 KTM prior to 2016 models were stroked as well) and 300s are not allowed - but simply, more so that full equivalency is not allowed. Look to the series around the world where it has been allowed - there's been no wholesale destruction of 4ts, and, there's so much more to come from 4t development - just as there is for 2ts. Well, the 2T engines, in motorcycle terms, have remained in the past, for so very long now.

For those that don't know, 58HP is generally held to be the HP that the fully kitted KTM 250RCs and the Hondas, are said to be putting out in Moto3 this season - and all with very tight controls over the specs. Heck, they have a limit of 13,500RPM in place, and there's no such restriction in MX / Off Road. That alone bodes well for bikes that will be less of a 'time bomb', in the future, I reckon :- having the manufacturers not have the " go for sky high revs " solution available to them, that they've often used when it comes to 4ts.

DC & Co allow equivalency in XC2 in GNCCs - why he / they are so under the thumb of the major manufacturers with your Nationals, is a major disappointment. SX? - well, FELD are the owners of that Circus, and others (Circus's), so really, it will ever be a Circus event - but, hell, if they were to allow equivalency, that really would change things - in terms of major series rules. . I don't think any threats to 'pull out' by manufacturers would be put into action, as The Circus that is SX, is the biggest thing in the US.
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4/20/2016 11:18pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
Is the Husky 250 2 stroke a homologated model even?
Nope. I'm almost positive I heard a pro saying it is not for pro competition, might have even been Stank dawg referring to the Nationals on a 125 vs Monster Cup on a 250.
4/20/2016 11:24pm
gpracer36 wrote:
why do you zimmers post threads saying bla bla bla...your a goon dude
I think that's actually the point of a forum.
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4/20/2016 11:27pm
I guess southwick doesn't count as a sand track?
zehn wrote:
It is by American standards. It can't hold a candle to Lierop or Lommel though.
Yawn, Who cares, sand is sand.
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4/20/2016 11:44pm
APLMAN99 wrote:
Is the Husky 250 2 stroke a homologated model even?
Crush wrote:
Nope. I'm almost positive I heard a pro saying it is not for pro competition, might have even been Stank dawg referring to the Nationals on...
Nope. I'm almost positive I heard a pro saying it is not for pro competition, might have even been Stank dawg referring to the Nationals on a 125 vs Monster Cup on a 250.
Easy fix for that: Paint a KTM 250SX frame white, slap on some husky plastic and a husky ignition cover. Then it's an AMA legal "Husky 250".
4/21/2016 12:03am
I guess southwick doesn't count as a sand track?
zehn wrote:
It is by American standards. It can't hold a candle to Lierop or Lommel though.
The Champ wrote:
Yawn, Who cares, sand is sand.
Wait did I miss something? I mean I hope Im wrong.....REALL!! Is it back on the calendar?
4/21/2016 12:08am
zehn wrote:
It is by American standards. It can't hold a candle to Lierop or Lommel though.
The Champ wrote:
Yawn, Who cares, sand is sand.
Wait did I miss something? I mean I hope Im wrong.....REALL!! Is it back on the calendar?
Yes it is. We saved the wick! It's the weekend after the red bud national.

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