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9/12/2017 10:09pm
9/12/2017 10:09pm
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He talks about it in this podcast. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/keefer-tested/e/51456362?autoplay=true
He is going to have a round table podcast at the end of each day of testing with a few guys that are doing the testing.
Looking forward to it.
He is going to have a round table podcast at the end of each day of testing with a few guys that are doing the testing.
Looking forward to it.
Just like many US series riders, tester's frequently favor an engine with a hit, and stiff suspension. I need to be convinced that is the fastest way around a moto.
Otherwise,
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Sounds like a good way to slightly vary yourself from the other run of the mill shootouts.
I'd suggest to go listen to his podcasts on the bikes he has ridden lately. Very very informative.
Different tracks different days and multiple guys with reviews each day from track they just rode.
better than the rest IMO
The great thing about Vital is that they recognize not every bike suits every person, what might be an amazing bike to one person doesn't mean its amazing for someone else.
Pit Row
http://www.dirtrider.com/2017-450cc-off-road-gp-bike-comparison
But Vital is still the number 1 place for shootouts. I have a massive problem with trusting Keefer when he rated the Yamaha number 1 in 2017, i rode the bike and i can't see how anyone that isn't 185cm+ would feel comfy on that bike. I'm not sure if his opinions on bikes relates to my thoughts and experiences of bikes after that. I can understand that he likes that platform but the fact is that the YZ is not the best bike for the average guy(yes i know, we can find exceptions) . Taller people tend to do better on it. The YZ won the Dirt rider shootout in 2017, the only mag that put the YZ as number 1.
But every other mag said it was top 3.
Weird.
The podcasts are excellent and you are very detailed in set up and what the bike does and doesn't do well.
I have played that damn suspension podcast about 20 times on my way to the track just to make sure I'm adjusting everything right lol
Cant wait for your test and keep up the good work!
Keep it going Kris, you're a good dude! I will still say that the YZF 450 2014-2017 sucks for me haha I just don't understand how it would be one of the better bikes for the average guy. I'm only 175cm tall so i'm on the shorter side but it really felt like a tank. Great suspension and strong motor but it had bad brakes and turned below average.
When race teams test different items, do you think they go by feel or lap times?
You remember the beating ML took for the rank the bike got?
All I'm saying is this, its a one day thing with different guys. Lap times don't mean shit at ONE track. Sure one bike might work better at one track than another. Thats very common.
Multiple tracks multiple days. Seems more reliable and a better indicator of what bike is really the best.
And better yet, listen to the "living with" podcasts Keefer does after he has spent a ton of time on the bike, tested different parts, suspension and the like. And it comes from a guy who tests for the Factory, not the teams for the actual Brands, it doesn't get better than that. Thats the real break down and he is honest regardless of the color.
I really like the living with stuff he does. these shoot outs are all way to superficial.
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