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The delivery is totally different to a 250 , much more manageable and fun to ride.
We run a TM300 SMX in German supermoto, and its will run with a good 450 in a straight line with just a pipe and port work . And im 225 pounds., so its not like I have a weight advantage.
PhilG knows of what he speaks
Now anyone have 10k laying around I can borrow? I promise I'll pay it back
some day
Sorry to go off topic - but anyone know how sales are doing for the KTM Freeride models??http://www.ktm.com/us/freeride/freeride-250-r-2016/
Haven't heard very much about them other than the fact they exist..
Big mistake, all the guys wanted to do was take the bike out for a ride.
In all seriousness, there are enough 2T loyalists that will support a company like
KTM that has done VERY well giving the consumer what they want, but if they had to split the pie
5 ways (red, blue,green, yellow, orange) not sure they could still invest the kind of money they do.
Can you imagine just 15 years ago how insignificant KTM was to what they are now?
How can anyone not be impressed by what they have done?
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Some part numbers:
SXS12300000 - Motocross specific 300cc kit for the KTM 250SX (2007-2013)
SXS12300100 - 300cc kit for converting a 250 XC/XC-W into a 300 XC-W. (2008-2015), Husqvarna TE 250 14-16, Also fits Husaberg TE 250 11-15.
SXS14300000 - Motocross specific 300cc kit for the KTM 250SX (2014-2016) or Husqvarna TC250 '14-16.
I'm a member of the 2-stroke taliban. Have always owned a 2-stroke, will continue to buy one until I'm dead, and simply can not comprehend how anyone would choose a 4-stroke over a 2-stroke.
That said, I agree with you on this part. The market still wants 4-strokes, and if a 4-stroke makes you happier than a 2-stroke, I am all for it.
However, you can not deny that the market is pushed heavily towards 4-strokes from all angles: No 2-strokes in pro racing, no advertisements, no R&D (except KTM/Husky and boutique brands), CC advantage,...The list goes on.
I'm not saying 2-strokes would become dominant again, but if here was no 4-stroke propaganda, the 2-stroke market share would would grow exponentially.
As for technology...Please remember that thousands of people are still buying brand new 10+ year old YZ250's to this day, because it is a great race bike.
The current RM-Z450 is now 9 years old.. How many 2017 models will you see at your local track? I'm guessing not many. People look at that bike like it's a dinosaur. My point is, 'technological advancement' in MX Bikes is directly related to which other bike you're comparing it to.
As to 4Ts being more expensive, yes their initial purchase is within a few hundred dollars, but the cost of maintenance, and repairs are exponentially greater, and that is the reference to them being cheaper.
I agree today there are more 4Ts sold than 2Ts overall, but isn't that a factor of what the manufacturers, and race associations are pushing? How did we get here? The AMA allowed a significant cc advantage to the 4ts, so every manufacturer jumped on board, because how could any rider compete with what was essentially a 50% reduction in cc's? If Yamaha doesn't have that advantage, racing a 400 versus 250's, and instead had to compete equal displacement, does the 4stroke even come about in MX racing? All the R&D money that went into developing these 4 strokes could have been spent pushing the 2T even further ahead then where it is today. And yet even with their dated Technology, the race associations won't allow a 250 two stroke to go head to head with a four stroke, because the 10 year old technology would still probably have the advantage.
I have no problem with people riding what they prefer. It's great that there is choice, but to say that the 4 stroke is not a direct product of what the manufacturers want you to ride is just not true.
my 300 currently has over 2600 miles and about 150 hours on the same top end. she's ready for a refresh, no doubt, but it's unreal the life-span. i don't think my YZ250 ever made it past 20 hours without needing to be replaced.
i've done a 1400 mile trip and a 280 mile trip on it. the rest have been 80-100 mile rides all variable speeds and some highway thrown in for good measure.
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