Justin Hill

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No disrespect to Justin because he rode awesome this year but is he high just thinking he's gonna go to the 450s next year? After years of regional 250 champs struggling to get a 450 ride (bogle, mookie, etc) and just a shortage of rides in general, what team is stepping up and offering a 450? I realize these guys have agents and have an idea of their future early on behind the scenes but with so many riders wishing they could've stayed in the 250s due to lack of 450 rides it seems kinda crazy that Justin can defend next year and still he says he's gonna move up anyways.
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You know his brother works for monster right?
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kyle43mx wrote:
No disrespect to Justin because he rode awesome this year but is he high just thinking he's gonna go to the 450s next year? After years...
No disrespect to Justin because he rode awesome this year but is he high just thinking he's gonna go to the 450s next year? After years of regional 250 champs struggling to get a 450 ride (bogle, mookie, etc) and just a shortage of rides in general, what team is stepping up and offering a 450? I realize these guys have agents and have an idea of their future early on behind the scenes but with so many riders wishing they could've stayed in the 250s due to lack of 450 rides it seems kinda crazy that Justin can defend next year and still he says he's gonna move up anyways.
Was this thread necessary? He's in a position where he can try to get a top 450 ride and if he can't his team will welcome him back with open arms
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kyle43mx 5/10/2017 7:50am
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Yea i'm aware of that, still feel like that's not enough pull to kick Grant off the factory team. Maybe if Reed actually leaves Yamaha he'll have a spot.
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Remember when he rode a big boy bike at monster cup awhile back? And that 250 championship? That's why. And he'll probably get one.

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kyle43mx 5/10/2017 7:56am
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Sodipop wrote:
Was this thread necessary? He's in a position where he can try to get a top 450 ride and if he can't his team will welcome...
Was this thread necessary? He's in a position where he can try to get a top 450 ride and if he can't his team will welcome him back with open arms
No it wasn't really necessary... But i figured with all the retarded shit that gets posted on Vital every day this was a pretty reasonable thought. My main point is basically unless Justin has a stellar MX season, it's kinda crazy for someone to give him a 450 ride off of 1 regional championship, especially after the past few years and the shortage of rides available.
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There is a glimmer you can see in Justin Hill though, when he's talking he seems so full of self confidence in himself that it is eeriy reminiscent of RV or RC. Plus he is a ginger too... that's got to count for something. Ever since he turned pro he has always been so mentally steady that he knows his possibilities/capabilities even through years of injuries.

He has intangibles that surely the big wigs have taken notice of.
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But vital told me riders need to move out of the 250 class after their first win
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He's good on a 450, that's why he will get a good ride. If anything prior to this year he proved he was better on a 450 in one race.
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aroark247 wrote:
There is a glimmer you can see in Justin Hill though, when he's talking he seems so full of self confidence in himself that it is...
There is a glimmer you can see in Justin Hill though, when he's talking he seems so full of self confidence in himself that it is eeriy reminiscent of RV or RC. Plus he is a ginger too... that's got to count for something. Ever since he turned pro he has always been so mentally steady that he knows his possibilities/capabilities even through years of injuries.

He has intangibles that surely the big wigs have taken notice of.
Dude.

He can talk any way he likes. He's won what, 5 races after 4 or so years in the 250 class and not completed a full season indoors and out. Granted he got it done, but take away McElrath's bike failure and who knows.

He's not even in the same dimension as those two moto demi-gods. He might end up doing great, but I wouldn't be basing that off the way he talks or some perceived intangible twinkle in his eye.

In fact, name me one rider since 2006, when 450s took over, that has said "I actually ride the 250 a lot better"...
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DanDunes818 5/10/2017 8:18am
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I don't know if he'll get a 450 ride or not, but Justin Hill has raced the 450 class one time--2014 Monster Energy Cup--and he went 2-2 in the first two mains when every major player was there. He was phenomenal and could have very well won the overall if he didn't crash in the third main.

I rewatched it a little bit ago and IMO he rides the 450 better than the 250. You can't blame him for hoping a team sees that and puts him on the 450.

I think what he's hoping to do is shop the 450 teams but if there's not anything worth taking, he will have the #1 plate on a 250 to fall back on. Not a bad plan. The OP is comparing him to guys that had no choice because they were getting pushed out of the class. This is a completely different situation.

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aroark247 5/10/2017 8:19am
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Dude. He can talk any way he likes. He's won what, 5 races after 4 or so years in the 250 class and not completed a...
Dude.

He can talk any way he likes. He's won what, 5 races after 4 or so years in the 250 class and not completed a full season indoors and out. Granted he got it done, but take away McElrath's bike failure and who knows.

He's not even in the same dimension as those two moto demi-gods. He might end up doing great, but I wouldn't be basing that off the way he talks or some perceived intangible twinkle in his eye.

In fact, name me one rider since 2006, when 450s took over, that has said "I actually ride the 250 a lot better"...
I'm a fan of your posts/responses CRUSH. I may be wishing for something that isn't there, but I've got a gut feeling that kid can do it. We'll see how it all unfolds
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I'm a fan of your posts/responses CRUSH. I may be wishing for something that isn't there, but I've got a gut feeling that kid can do...
I'm a fan of your posts/responses CRUSH. I may be wishing for something that isn't there, but I've got a gut feeling that kid can do it. We'll see how it all unfolds
Man he's good, no doubt, but I honestly think the fact that KTM was chasing Eli is a good indicator of the teams assessment of the upcoming talent when they're trying to take down Eli and Kenny.

Not saying he couldn't be great, but if nothing else, I think he's mental walking from a guaranteed massive pay day and shot at another title to probably struggle in the 450s like 9/10 every other 250 champs...
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I wonder if most of you realize that he's still under contract with Kawasaki.
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I wonder if most of you realize that he's still under contract with Kawasaki.
PC or Kawasaki in general?
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Factory kawy , 2018 stamp it.
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I'm a fan of your posts/responses CRUSH. I may be wishing for something that isn't there, but I've got a gut feeling that kid can do...
I'm a fan of your posts/responses CRUSH. I may be wishing for something that isn't there, but I've got a gut feeling that kid can do it. We'll see how it all unfolds
Crush wrote:
Man he's good, no doubt, but I honestly think the fact that KTM was chasing Eli is a good indicator of the teams assessment of the...
Man he's good, no doubt, but I honestly think the fact that KTM was chasing Eli is a good indicator of the teams assessment of the upcoming talent when they're trying to take down Eli and Kenny.

Not saying he couldn't be great, but if nothing else, I think he's mental walking from a guaranteed massive pay day and shot at another title to probably struggle in the 450s like 9/10 every other 250 champs...
Remember when Webb, Seeley and Anderson were absolutely waxing everybody in the 250 West class? 450 SX is a whole different animal than an 8 race series with half the competition. I have reservations about the future of some guys and Hill is one of them.
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aroark247 wrote:
There is a glimmer you can see in Justin Hill though, when he's talking he seems so full of self confidence in himself that it is...
There is a glimmer you can see in Justin Hill though, when he's talking he seems so full of self confidence in himself that it is eeriy reminiscent of RV or RC. Plus he is a ginger too... that's got to count for something. Ever since he turned pro he has always been so mentally steady that he knows his possibilities/capabilities even through years of injuries.

He has intangibles that surely the big wigs have taken notice of.
I COMPLETELY disagree. Justin Hill's hair is definitely a very light blonde, and not red.
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aroark247 wrote:
There is a glimmer you can see in Justin Hill though, when he's talking he seems so full of self confidence in himself that it is...
There is a glimmer you can see in Justin Hill though, when he's talking he seems so full of self confidence in himself that it is eeriy reminiscent of RV or RC. Plus he is a ginger too... that's got to count for something. Ever since he turned pro he has always been so mentally steady that he knows his possibilities/capabilities even through years of injuries.

He has intangibles that surely the big wigs have taken notice of.
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I COMPLETELY disagree. Justin Hill's hair is definitely a very light blonde, and not red.
For sure. He's got that slightly reddish skin complexion and bleached blonde hair. He reminds me of a girl I knew in high school. She was a natural blonde, if you know what I mean...

As for his riding skills, someone has to move up. If not a 250W champ, then who? Also, you guys seem to think that he'll automatically get paid more to ride a 250F with a #1 on it.... not necessarily true.

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Hill should take the summer off and see what awesome rides pop up for him

seems like a sound strategy
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peelout wrote:
Hill should take the summer off and see what awesome rides pop up for him

seems like a sound strategy
that worked great for the last guy .............................................. oh wait..........
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Jeff alessi wrote:
He's good on a 450, that's why he will get a good ride. If anything prior to this year he proved he was better on a...
He's good on a 450, that's why he will get a good ride. If anything prior to this year he proved he was better on a 450 in one race.
This ^^^
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peelout wrote:
Hill should take the summer off and see what awesome rides pop up for him

seems like a sound strategy
DEMONDAVE wrote:
that worked great for the last guy .............................................. oh wait..........
Yeah but Justin's last name actually helps him get rides.
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peelout wrote:
Hill should take the summer off and see what awesome rides pop up for him

seems like a sound strategy
Dude!

That's soooo mean: ya might wanna check your credit...your Karma credit. For instance, you better retorque your sprocket bolts, bro!
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Ted722 5/10/2017 10:31am
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peelout wrote:
Hill should take the summer off and see what awesome rides pop up for him

seems like a sound strategy
TeamGreen wrote:
Dude!

That's soooo mean: ya might wanna check your credit...your Karma credit. For instance, you better retorque your sprocket bolts, bro!
Smile Just start your season at A2. Heck, if there's a chase sounds like a great plan.
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Davalos called him and convinced him he should stay on 250s another decade. Looking for a 450 ride in 2028.
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RandyS wrote:
Davalos called him and convinced him he should stay on 250s another decade. Looking for a 450 ride in 2028.
Herlings just took his shirt off
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Justin lifts Bro. He'll be fine.
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I can see Grant replacing Reed, and Hill (Justin) replacing Grant.

And if Dungey retires, I can see Anderson replacing him, and Osbourne replacing Anderson.

Makes sense for all involved, including Baker and his mates.
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For sure. He's got that slightly reddish skin complexion and bleached blonde hair. He reminds me of a girl I knew in high school. She was...
For sure. He's got that slightly reddish skin complexion and bleached blonde hair. He reminds me of a girl I knew in high school. She was a natural blonde, if you know what I mean...

As for his riding skills, someone has to move up. If not a 250W champ, then who? Also, you guys seem to think that he'll automatically get paid more to ride a 250F with a #1 on it.... not necessarily true.
Nah man, what do you mean?

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