Jeff Emig on Ryan Dungey

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I was watching an old 2007 Unadilla 250 moto where Jeff Emig was the color commentator and made a prediction for Ryan Dungey. He said "In another decade we're gonna be talking about him like we were any of the great motocross champions."

Being that it is now a decade later, do you think Dungey will go down as one of the motocross greats? Personally, I consider him to be one. Emig definitely has an eye for seeing talent.

Here is a link to the moto where Emig is talking about Dungey https://youtu.be/ZghPcIWthpI?t=879


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3/24/2017 5:15pm
He's among the elite for sure..... Where he falls within that spectrum is very debatable
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It's not that debatable. His stats put him in the elite. Hard to argue anything other than he has been one of the very best of all time.
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Top 5 of all time, and see what happens, SX, mx this year. Titles don't lie. , Wins are good, titles are better.
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His legacy will be like Stanton
Memorable like Bradshaw no way

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His legacy is consistency and that's boring
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3/24/2017 5:51pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 6:19pm
Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins
1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins
2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins
3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72 Wins
4. Dungey 7 Titles 79 Wins
5. Stewart 5 Titles 98 Wins
6. Johnson 7 Title 61 Wins
7. Hannah 6 Titles 64 Wins
8. Ward 7 Titles 56 Wins
9. Stanton 6 Titles 37 Wins
10. Glover 6 Titles 45 Wins

If it was Supercross only Reed (3 titles 55 wins) would be in the mix for top 5-6. If you throw in World MX then you need to get Everts, Decoster, Cairoli, Smets, Geobors, and Robert in there.
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crossrut wrote:
His legacy is consistency and that's boring
I hope your legacy on Vital will soon be cut short.

Why the hell do you have to take a shot at him every thread there is?? Seriously whats your problem man, are you 14?? Grow up.
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As for the topic - of course Dungey should be considered in the elite of the sport. He is one if the best there is / was.
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He's in the elite class for sure. Where he sits at the table is debatable. But he's got a chair at the elite table and not much more you can ask for. He's a made man when it come to SX/MX. He's one bad dude on a dirt bike.
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Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins 1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins 2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins 3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72...
Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins
1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins
2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins
3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72 Wins
4. Dungey 7 Titles 79 Wins
5. Stewart 5 Titles 98 Wins
6. Johnson 7 Title 61 Wins
7. Hannah 6 Titles 64 Wins
8. Ward 7 Titles 56 Wins
9. Stanton 6 Titles 37 Wins
10. Glover 6 Titles 45 Wins

If it was Supercross only Reed (3 titles 55 wins) would be in the mix for top 5-6. If you throw in World MX then you need to get Everts, Decoster, Cairoli, Smets, Geobors, and Robert in there.
I like your rationale for the list. If it were mine I would change a few around but for the most part I agree.

Comparing US riders with those who race MXGP is more complicated. If we're only looking at the Nationals and MXGP riders like Everts, Smets, and Cairoli among some other would be competing for top spots along with RC, RV, and others. Adding in Supercross makes the comparing more difficult haha
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Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins 1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins 2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins 3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72...
Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins
1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins
2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins
3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72 Wins
4. Dungey 7 Titles 79 Wins
5. Stewart 5 Titles 98 Wins
6. Johnson 7 Title 61 Wins
7. Hannah 6 Titles 64 Wins
8. Ward 7 Titles 56 Wins
9. Stanton 6 Titles 37 Wins
10. Glover 6 Titles 45 Wins

If it was Supercross only Reed (3 titles 55 wins) would be in the mix for top 5-6. If you throw in World MX then you need to get Everts, Decoster, Cairoli, Smets, Geobors, and Robert in there.
How you list MC above RV for wins, but then Dungey behind RV for the opposite and Stew behind Dungey the same of more?

Titles are what counts!

And Reedy has 2 SX titles, 1 mx.
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crossrut wrote:
His legacy is consistency and that's boring
If being consistent means being boring, banking millions of dollars in a short amount of years, being one of the best riders of all time and retiring before the age 30 I'd say there's plenty of guys on this board and people racing against him that wouldn't mind signing up to be boring. Me included.
3/24/2017 6:48pm
Commentators say that about every youngster who looks like potential championship material. And they are wrong more often than they are right. If you say it about enough people, you're bound to be right at least some of the time. How many people said the same about Alessi? Barcia? Pourcell? Lots. Emig probably said it about all of them at one point. He has to say a lot of words to fill up the broadcast time.
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Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins 1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins 2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins 3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72...
Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins
1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins
2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins
3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72 Wins
4. Dungey 7 Titles 79 Wins
5. Stewart 5 Titles 98 Wins
6. Johnson 7 Title 61 Wins
7. Hannah 6 Titles 64 Wins
8. Ward 7 Titles 56 Wins
9. Stanton 6 Titles 37 Wins
10. Glover 6 Titles 45 Wins

If it was Supercross only Reed (3 titles 55 wins) would be in the mix for top 5-6. If you throw in World MX then you need to get Everts, Decoster, Cairoli, Smets, Geobors, and Robert in there.
This doesn't make any sense - " if it was supercross only Reed 3 titles,55 wins" Last time I checked Reed had 2 Supercross titles and low 40's SX wins
3/24/2017 7:00pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 7:01pm
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This doesn't make any sense - " if it was supercross only Reed 3 titles,55 wins" Last time I checked Reed had 2 Supercross titles and...
This doesn't make any sense - " if it was supercross only Reed 3 titles,55 wins" Last time I checked Reed had 2 Supercross titles and low 40's SX wins
I believe he's including his 125/lites performances.
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Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins 1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins 2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins 3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72...
Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins
1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins
2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins
3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72 Wins
4. Dungey 7 Titles 79 Wins
5. Stewart 5 Titles 98 Wins
6. Johnson 7 Title 61 Wins
7. Hannah 6 Titles 64 Wins
8. Ward 7 Titles 56 Wins
9. Stanton 6 Titles 37 Wins
10. Glover 6 Titles 45 Wins

If it was Supercross only Reed (3 titles 55 wins) would be in the mix for top 5-6. If you throw in World MX then you need to get Everts, Decoster, Cairoli, Smets, Geobors, and Robert in there.
Crush wrote:
How you list MC above RV for wins, but then Dungey behind RV for the opposite and Stew behind Dungey the same of more? Titles are...
How you list MC above RV for wins, but then Dungey behind RV for the opposite and Stew behind Dungey the same of more?

Titles are what counts!

And Reedy has 2 SX titles, 1 mx.
As it states at the top of his list "in my opinion"...he just listed wins and titles to show.
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The dude has 79 wins. He up there with the greats. You cant deny that.
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Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins 1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins 2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins 3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72...
Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins
1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins
2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins
3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72 Wins
4. Dungey 7 Titles 79 Wins
5. Stewart 5 Titles 98 Wins
6. Johnson 7 Title 61 Wins
7. Hannah 6 Titles 64 Wins
8. Ward 7 Titles 56 Wins
9. Stanton 6 Titles 37 Wins
10. Glover 6 Titles 45 Wins

If it was Supercross only Reed (3 titles 55 wins) would be in the mix for top 5-6. If you throw in World MX then you need to get Everts, Decoster, Cairoli, Smets, Geobors, and Robert in there.
Yes, Dungey's easily in with the greats and not just on numbers.

Wouldn't it be cool to take the riders (in their prime) from that list, line them up on equal unfamiliar equipment (Altas...Smile and let them have at it. 40 min.+ 2. Might have to conserve the juice in the battery!
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Jeff Stanton is the perfect comparison​ to Dungey. Very consistent and not always the fastest rider in the series but never made big mistakes or rode over his head. Stanton certainly benefited when RJ got hurt in 89' as did Dungey when RV crashed out in 2010. If Dunge wins the SX title this year, it will be awfully similar to Stanton in 1992 when he won only 3 races to Bradshaw's 9.
3/24/2017 7:13pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 7:14pm
Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins 1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins 2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins 3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72...
Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins
1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins
2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins
3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72 Wins
4. Dungey 7 Titles 79 Wins
5. Stewart 5 Titles 98 Wins
6. Johnson 7 Title 61 Wins
7. Hannah 6 Titles 64 Wins
8. Ward 7 Titles 56 Wins
9. Stanton 6 Titles 37 Wins
10. Glover 6 Titles 45 Wins

If it was Supercross only Reed (3 titles 55 wins) would be in the mix for top 5-6. If you throw in World MX then you need to get Everts, Decoster, Cairoli, Smets, Geobors, and Robert in there.
Ted722 wrote:
Yes, Dungey's easily in with the greats and not just on numbers. Wouldn't it be cool to take the riders (in their prime) from that list...
Yes, Dungey's easily in with the greats and not just on numbers.

Wouldn't it be cool to take the riders (in their prime) from that list, line them up on equal unfamiliar equipment (Altas...Smile and let them have at it. 40 min.+ 2. Might have to conserve the juice in the battery!
Say no more: Monster Energy/Hodaka Combat Wombat series for all past champs.

We can do this.
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Rockinar wrote:
The dude has 79 wins. He up there with the greats. You cant deny that.
Yep, but folks will remember a knucklehead like JLaw before they'll remember Ryan Dungey because of the outrageous things he's done. Ryan hasn't made that brand of noise so he'll (like someone earlier said ) be more like a Jeff Stanton than an RC or RV.
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Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins 1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins 2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins 3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72...
Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins
1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins
2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins
3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72 Wins
4. Dungey 7 Titles 79 Wins
5. Stewart 5 Titles 98 Wins
6. Johnson 7 Title 61 Wins
7. Hannah 6 Titles 64 Wins
8. Ward 7 Titles 56 Wins
9. Stanton 6 Titles 37 Wins
10. Glover 6 Titles 45 Wins

If it was Supercross only Reed (3 titles 55 wins) would be in the mix for top 5-6. If you throw in World MX then you need to get Everts, Decoster, Cairoli, Smets, Geobors, and Robert in there.
Crush wrote:
How you list MC above RV for wins, but then Dungey behind RV for the opposite and Stew behind Dungey the same of more? Titles are...
How you list MC above RV for wins, but then Dungey behind RV for the opposite and Stew behind Dungey the same of more?

Titles are what counts!

And Reedy has 2 SX titles, 1 mx.
ML512 wrote:
As it states at the top of his list "in my opinion"...he just listed wins and titles to show.
Yeah I can read the statement, but you wouldn't list the titles and wins if they weren't the decision makers... and as I said, the logic swaps 6 times throughout and some other rationalisation for Stanton and Glover.

Reads like personality or some other factor not listed had influence rather than pure logic...
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Rockinar wrote:
The dude has 79 wins. He up there with the greats. You cant deny that.
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Yep, but folks will remember a knucklehead like JLaw before they'll remember Ryan Dungey because of the outrageous things he's done. Ryan hasn't made that brand...
Yep, but folks will remember a knucklehead like JLaw before they'll remember Ryan Dungey because of the outrageous things he's done. Ryan hasn't made that brand of noise so he'll (like someone earlier said ) be more like a Jeff Stanton than an RC or RV.
That might have been true if they both retired in 09... Not the case anymore.

I mean, one did time in a jailbox, the other was on a wheaties box.
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Yep, but folks will remember a knucklehead like JLaw before they'll remember Ryan Dungey because of the outrageous things he's done. Ryan hasn't made that brand...
Yep, but folks will remember a knucklehead like JLaw before they'll remember Ryan Dungey because of the outrageous things he's done. Ryan hasn't made that brand of noise so he'll (like someone earlier said ) be more like a Jeff Stanton than an RC or RV.
Come on now. J Law over Dungey? Dude's been winning 450 championships over a span of 7 years and counting.
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Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins 1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins 2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins 3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72...
Top 10 AMA Motocross/Supercross Combined in my opinion: Titles/Wins
1. RC 15 Titles 150 Wins
2. MC 8 Titles 89 Wins
3. Villopotto 9 Titles 72 Wins
4. Dungey 7 Titles 79 Wins
5. Stewart 5 Titles 98 Wins
6. Johnson 7 Title 61 Wins
7. Hannah 6 Titles 64 Wins
8. Ward 7 Titles 56 Wins
9. Stanton 6 Titles 37 Wins
10. Glover 6 Titles 45 Wins

If it was Supercross only Reed (3 titles 55 wins) would be in the mix for top 5-6. If you throw in World MX then you need to get Everts, Decoster, Cairoli, Smets, Geobors, and Robert in there.
Ted722 wrote:
Yes, Dungey's easily in with the greats and not just on numbers. Wouldn't it be cool to take the riders (in their prime) from that list...
Yes, Dungey's easily in with the greats and not just on numbers.

Wouldn't it be cool to take the riders (in their prime) from that list, line them up on equal unfamiliar equipment (Altas...Smile and let them have at it. 40 min.+ 2. Might have to conserve the juice in the battery!
Say no more: Monster Energy/Hodaka Combat Wombat series for all past champs.

We can do this.
Perfect. And Glover would get a lot better than 10th.
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That might have been true if they both retired in 09... Not the case anymore. I mean, one did time in a jailbox, the other was...
That might have been true if they both retired in 09... Not the case anymore.

I mean, one did time in a jailbox, the other was on a wheaties box.
Yeah, besides a few of us Vitards, JLaw is already dead to history.

Dunge will be in the Motorcycle Hall of Fame, future generations will pay door charges just to look at his old bikes, and he will walk as royalty within moto events for the rest of his life.

There is absolutely zero comparison.
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Crush wrote:
How you list MC above RV for wins, but then Dungey behind RV for the opposite and Stew behind Dungey the same of more? Titles are...
How you list MC above RV for wins, but then Dungey behind RV for the opposite and Stew behind Dungey the same of more?

Titles are what counts!

And Reedy has 2 SX titles, 1 mx.
ML512 wrote:
As it states at the top of his list "in my opinion"...he just listed wins and titles to show.
Crush wrote:
Yeah I can read the statement, but you wouldn't list the titles and wins if they weren't the decision makers... and as I said, the logic...
Yeah I can read the statement, but you wouldn't list the titles and wins if they weren't the decision makers... and as I said, the logic swaps 6 times throughout and some other rationalisation for Stanton and Glover.

Reads like personality or some other factor not listed had influence rather than pure logic...
Obviously my opinion, but McGrath is ahead of Villopoto because of his extra 17 wins. 3 of Villopoto's titles came in the 250 class.

Stewart is ahead of RJ, Hannah, Wardy, Stanton, Glover is because of the amount of wins. His 30+ more wins to me is the equivalent of 1-2 titles.

Also Glover never won a SX title, so he would be behind the other 6 time champs.

It's an off the cuff list.

And Reed has 2 SX and 1 MX titles.

If it was based on SX only. My opinion.
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ML512 wrote:
As it states at the top of his list "in my opinion"...he just listed wins and titles to show.
Crush wrote:
Yeah I can read the statement, but you wouldn't list the titles and wins if they weren't the decision makers... and as I said, the logic...
Yeah I can read the statement, but you wouldn't list the titles and wins if they weren't the decision makers... and as I said, the logic swaps 6 times throughout and some other rationalisation for Stanton and Glover.

Reads like personality or some other factor not listed had influence rather than pure logic...
Obviously my opinion, but McGrath is ahead of Villopoto because of his extra 17 wins. 3 of Villopoto's titles came in the 250 class. Stewart is...
Obviously my opinion, but McGrath is ahead of Villopoto because of his extra 17 wins. 3 of Villopoto's titles came in the 250 class.

Stewart is ahead of RJ, Hannah, Wardy, Stanton, Glover is because of the amount of wins. His 30+ more wins to me is the equivalent of 1-2 titles.

Also Glover never won a SX title, so he would be behind the other 6 time champs.

It's an off the cuff list.

And Reed has 2 SX and 1 MX titles.

If it was based on SX only. My opinion.
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Titles are harder to get than wins,, and pay more $$,. If you say 30 wins is worth 1-2 titles,. Add. Win number to the guys with more titles. Alot of guys win a race , not alot win titles.
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Crush wrote:
Yeah I can read the statement, but you wouldn't list the titles and wins if they weren't the decision makers... and as I said, the logic...
Yeah I can read the statement, but you wouldn't list the titles and wins if they weren't the decision makers... and as I said, the logic swaps 6 times throughout and some other rationalisation for Stanton and Glover.

Reads like personality or some other factor not listed had influence rather than pure logic...
Obviously my opinion, but McGrath is ahead of Villopoto because of his extra 17 wins. 3 of Villopoto's titles came in the 250 class. Stewart is...
Obviously my opinion, but McGrath is ahead of Villopoto because of his extra 17 wins. 3 of Villopoto's titles came in the 250 class.

Stewart is ahead of RJ, Hannah, Wardy, Stanton, Glover is because of the amount of wins. His 30+ more wins to me is the equivalent of 1-2 titles.

Also Glover never won a SX title, so he would be behind the other 6 time champs.

It's an off the cuff list.

And Reed has 2 SX and 1 MX titles.

If it was based on SX only. My opinion.
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mxb2 wrote:
Titles are harder to get than wins,, and pay more $$,. If you say 30 wins is worth 1-2 titles,. Add. Win number to the guys...
Titles are harder to get than wins,, and pay more $$,. If you say 30 wins is worth 1-2 titles,. Add. Win number to the guys with more titles. Alot of guys win a race , not alot win titles.
Well guys in the late 80s and early 90s (86-93) had 3 titles to win in a season. 250/500 class were split seasons outdoors. This allowed RJ, Ward, Stanton the opportunity to gain more titles in a shorter span. Those titles while still national titles would have less weight to me than a 12 race season. Also a 24-0 allows you a bump up a spot or two in Stews case.

Still all my opinion. Hannah should probably be higher on the list, but SX from 1977 is a lot more different to Supercross in 1987 than Supercross from 87 is to 17.
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Obviously my opinion, but McGrath is ahead of Villopoto because of his extra 17 wins. 3 of Villopoto's titles came in the 250 class. Stewart is...
Obviously my opinion, but McGrath is ahead of Villopoto because of his extra 17 wins. 3 of Villopoto's titles came in the 250 class.

Stewart is ahead of RJ, Hannah, Wardy, Stanton, Glover is because of the amount of wins. His 30+ more wins to me is the equivalent of 1-2 titles.

Also Glover never won a SX title, so he would be behind the other 6 time champs.

It's an off the cuff list.

And Reed has 2 SX and 1 MX titles.

If it was based on SX only. My opinion.
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mxb2 wrote:
Titles are harder to get than wins,, and pay more $$,. If you say 30 wins is worth 1-2 titles,. Add. Win number to the guys...
Titles are harder to get than wins,, and pay more $$,. If you say 30 wins is worth 1-2 titles,. Add. Win number to the guys with more titles. Alot of guys win a race , not alot win titles.
Well guys in the late 80s and early 90s (86-93) had 3 titles to win in a season. 250/500 class were split seasons outdoors. This allowed...
Well guys in the late 80s and early 90s (86-93) had 3 titles to win in a season. 250/500 class were split seasons outdoors. This allowed RJ, Ward, Stanton the opportunity to gain more titles in a shorter span. Those titles while still national titles would have less weight to me than a 12 race season. Also a 24-0 allows you a bump up a spot or two in Stews case.

Still all my opinion. Hannah should probably be higher on the list, but SX from 1977 is a lot more different to Supercross in 1987 than Supercross from 87 is to 17.
True, all opinions. Only can go by true stats and facts. Titles are alot harder,, whole season of consistent,health,no dnf, some luck on your side. Really hard to win a moto ,overall or main event, but we have seen guys do it once and vanish. Title is more impressive.

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