Jason Thomas look on the 'Stewart got Lapped' Issue.

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Edited Date/Time 3/6/2016 3:23pm
This weekend in Atlanta marked a first in racing history—James Stewart was lapped without crashing! I know, I know, James has had a rough go of it lately and was just trying to complete the main event and build his form back up to being in contention. I understand that and this is not taking a shot at James. In fact, I actually commend him for swallowing his pride and finishing the race when he had to be frustrated with how things were unfolding. This is a race that was labeled the “Fastest Man on the Planet” for most of his career, so it was strange to watch the pack ride away from him while he simply clicked off laps.

What happened at the end of the race—as Marvin Musquin and Ryan Dungey lapped hi—was a direct result of James’ incredible career and lack of experience in this situation. This was not a blatant effort to get in the way, not bitterness at going a lap down, it was simply James getting into a situation he has literally never been in before.

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lostboy819 3/1/2016 12:18pm
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He may have thought he had slowed down enough and was wondering why in the hell they had not passed him yet. Wink
Stewarts slowed down pace is faster than most people full on race pace.
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Exactly. Everyone bags on him for crashing pulling off, not showing up etc. Can you imagine how hard it is mentally for him to get lapped. I commend him for finishing, and as much as I would have liked to see Marvin win last week, it wasn't James fault.
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lostboy819 wrote:
He may have thought he had slowed down enough and was wondering why in the hell they had not passed him yet. ;) Stewarts slowed down...
He may have thought he had slowed down enough and was wondering why in the hell they had not passed him yet. Wink
Stewarts slowed down pace is faster than most people full on race pace.
Obviously his 'race pace' was slow enough to be about 52 seconds behind the leaders.


BTW, I'm so glad we have another thread on this same topic. I wonder if anything new will be posted? lol
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Stewart didn't pull over, but Marvin never should've tried the triple. Dungey would've been stuck behind him and Marvin was getting great drive through the sand all main. Both made poor judgement calls

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TheGetFresh wrote:
Stewart didn't pull over, but Marvin never should've tried the triple. Dungey would've been stuck behind him and Marvin was getting great drive through the sand...
Stewart didn't pull over, but Marvin never should've tried the triple. Dungey would've been stuck behind him and Marvin was getting great drive through the sand all main. Both made poor judgement calls
Yes. But one judgment call happened as a result of the other. And James had multiple opportunities to get out of the way. OTOH, lappers get in the way all the time. If it would have been anyone other than JS, there would have been no further discussion.
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ACBraap wrote:
Yes. But one judgment call happened as a result of the other. And James had multiple opportunities to get out of the way. OTOH, lappers get...
Yes. But one judgment call happened as a result of the other. And James had multiple opportunities to get out of the way. OTOH, lappers get in the way all the time. If it would have been anyone other than JS, there would have been no further discussion.
"If it would have been anyone other than JS, there would have been no further discussion."

EXACTLY!!!!! CoolCool
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I hadn't realized that, huge props to James for finishing 20. Er, 19, but still. Wishing him more positive steps.
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ACBraap wrote:
Yes. But one judgment call happened as a result of the other. And James had multiple opportunities to get out of the way. OTOH, lappers get...
Yes. But one judgment call happened as a result of the other. And James had multiple opportunities to get out of the way. OTOH, lappers get in the way all the time. If it would have been anyone other than JS, there would have been no further discussion.
mauidex wrote:
"If it would have been anyone other than JS, there would have been no further discussion."

EXACTLY!!!!! CoolCool
There would have been discussion on the issue of lappers costing Marv his first win whether it was Stew or not.

Except it would have been a 3 pager discussing how to avoid it instead of a 15 page war..
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lostboy819 wrote:
He may have thought he had slowed down enough and was wondering why in the hell they had not passed him yet. ;) Stewarts slowed down...
He may have thought he had slowed down enough and was wondering why in the hell they had not passed him yet. Wink
Stewarts slowed down pace is faster than most people full on race pace.
huck wrote:
Obviously his 'race pace' was slow enough to be about 52 seconds behind the leaders. BTW, I'm so glad we have another thread on this same...
Obviously his 'race pace' was slow enough to be about 52 seconds behind the leaders.


BTW, I'm so glad we have another thread on this same topic. I wonder if anything new will be posted? lol
It's a do-over to get your comment on the first page of a fresh thread.
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hillbilly 3/1/2016 12:58pm
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So,after lapping probably hundreds of riders he never picked up on how would be a good way to position oneself while being lapped?

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lostboy819 wrote:
He may have thought he had slowed down enough and was wondering why in the hell they had not passed him yet. ;) Stewarts slowed down...
He may have thought he had slowed down enough and was wondering why in the hell they had not passed him yet. Wink
Stewarts slowed down pace is faster than most people full on race pace.
huck wrote:
Obviously his 'race pace' was slow enough to be about 52 seconds behind the leaders. BTW, I'm so glad we have another thread on this same...
Obviously his 'race pace' was slow enough to be about 52 seconds behind the leaders.


BTW, I'm so glad we have another thread on this same topic. I wonder if anything new will be posted? lol
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It's a do-over to get your comment on the first page of a fresh thread.
Sweet. I have 2 on the first page. Winning!
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ATKpilot99 3/1/2016 1:06pm
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Has James commented on this on instagram or anything ?
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hillbilly wrote:
So,after lapping probably hundreds of riders he never picked up on how would be a good way to position oneself while being lapped?

exactley ... Canard didnt seem to have much problem did he
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Who is this JT character? Does he even race? WhistlingWoohoo
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Sandberm 3/1/2016 1:37pm
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Didnt read the article but I am listening to the Racerx weekly podcast and JT is 100% spot on.
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hillbilly wrote:
So,after lapping probably hundreds of riders he never picked up on how would be a good way to position oneself while being lapped?

Sounds like something Confucius would say.

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ktm300hater wrote:
Exactly. Everyone bags on him for crashing pulling off, not showing up etc. Can you imagine how hard it is mentally for him to get lapped...
Exactly. Everyone bags on him for crashing pulling off, not showing up etc. Can you imagine how hard it is mentally for him to get lapped. I commend him for finishing, and as much as I would have liked to see Marvin win last week, it wasn't James fault.
This!
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ktm300hater wrote:
Exactly. Everyone bags on him for crashing pulling off, not showing up etc. Can you imagine how hard it is mentally for him to get lapped...
Exactly. Everyone bags on him for crashing pulling off, not showing up etc. Can you imagine how hard it is mentally for him to get lapped. I commend him for finishing, and as much as I would have liked to see Marvin win last week, it wasn't James fault.
motomx88 wrote:
This!
James played a part in it. I feel that's undeniable. Marvin thinks so, at least to an extent. Regardless, I'm also happy he finished the race.
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mb60 3/1/2016 1:59pm
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Did JT not get landed on one time in Houston as JS7 and Windham were battling for the win ?
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God please give us another race so we can quit squawking about this one....
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mb60 wrote:
Did JT not get landed on one time in Houston as JS7 and Windham were battling for the win ?
No. I think you'll find that happened after Stewart crashed and was coming back through the pack. Stewart decided to jump a quad or a triple only he was jumping whilst battling with riders outside of the top 10. The result was JT getting landed on without doing anything wrong
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hillbilly wrote:
So,after lapping probably hundreds of riders he never picked up on how would be a good way to position oneself while being lapped?

Great point.
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moto455va 3/1/2016 2:06pm
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Im ready to put out this scenario

Stew thought Musquin was behind him and Dunge was the leader

Stew wanted to let Dunge around while not giving up the position up to Musquin

Seems plausible
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moto455va wrote:
Im ready to put out this scenario Stew thought Musquin was behind him and Dunge was the leader Stew wanted to let Dunge around while not...
Im ready to put out this scenario

Stew thought Musquin was behind him and Dunge was the leader

Stew wanted to let Dunge around while not giving up the position up to Musquin

Seems plausible
Makes sense, seeing how Marvin t-boned him at A1 and rooned his season....oh wait
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lostboy819 3/1/2016 2:15pm
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lostboy819 wrote:
He may have thought he had slowed down enough and was wondering why in the hell they had not passed him yet. ;) Stewarts slowed down...
He may have thought he had slowed down enough and was wondering why in the hell they had not passed him yet. Wink
Stewarts slowed down pace is faster than most people full on race pace.
huck wrote:
Obviously his 'race pace' was slow enough to be about 52 seconds behind the leaders. BTW, I'm so glad we have another thread on this same...
Obviously his 'race pace' was slow enough to be about 52 seconds behind the leaders.


BTW, I'm so glad we have another thread on this same topic. I wonder if anything new will be posted? lol
I am sure he has the speed,its he just doesn't have the stamina to push more than a few laps.
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moto455va 3/1/2016 2:26pm
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lostboy819 wrote:
I am sure he has the speed,its he just doesn't have the stamina to push more than a few laps.
Hes got the stamina to push down a few Krispy Kremes tho am I right
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Only James knows what happened.

Saying he wouldn't have had awareness of where the KTMs were behind him and where to let up would be odd considering he led throughout his career. Getting lapped isn't a special skill.

Hard for me not to say, he might have had some thoughts about trying to let only MM by first.
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Im sad to say hes turned from the worlds greatest moto artist, doing what noone else could do to a washed up drama queen.

From "a photographer moving on the northern hemisphere, made me crash" to adderal-doping-story of not knowing to rapport substances used to getting-hurt-skipped-australia and now totally boneheaded missjudge how a lapped rider should behave, and when!
And dont remind me of bubbas world...

Sorry, James, a concussion to much or not, once you were my hero but its getting a bit much...

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