Jacob Hayes to replace Tyler Bowers at Pro Circuit Kawi..?

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One Arenacross for another, Very fast in arena's, was very fast as
a amateur why not give the kid a shot...?
He's already used to the bike...
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fidiot 5/11/2015 4:37am
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I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his riders actions.
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fidiot wrote:
I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his...
I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his riders actions.
You must have missed the first few 250 West rounds..... Whistling
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Danster wrote:
One Arenacross for another, Very fast in arena's, was very fast as a amateur why not give the kid a shot...? He's already used to the...
One Arenacross for another, Very fast in arena's, was very fast as
a amateur why not give the kid a shot...?
He's already used to the bike...
Those who rides like a freaking idiot should not get a ride like this!

Definitely not good for PR!
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ts.p311 5/11/2015 4:53am
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He hired Bowers whose riding in AX was similar, was it not? The thing with Hayes in Vegas though, the whole leaning on Regal coming down the start straight thing... WTF is that shit?! It showed right from the start that he had no intention of racing for the title, he wanted Regal out so he could cruise to the title. Then he acted like a baby when it didn't work out for him, which was all his own doing. Payton aint got time for that shit... But then again times are tough over at PC these days, so maybe.

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Motofinne 5/11/2015 4:53am
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I hope not. My first impression of Hayes is not positive.
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struth 5/11/2015 4:58am
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Maybe you guys should watch all AX races before judge hayes.
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ts.p311 5/11/2015 5:08am
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I've seen plenty, and my judgement still stands. However my judgement means nothing, and Hayes will still have a career. By the time SX rolls around next year, hell by the time outdoors starts, we'll all mostly have forgot about this whole thing.
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I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his...
I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his riders actions.
You're kidding right?
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as someone who races arenacross and is friends with regal and hayes, hayes is a good dude, yah he went for the kill, lots of money and pride on the line. ill bet most of you would do much worse at the shot for over $100,000 plus having a championship via dirtbikes.
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fidiot 5/11/2015 5:42am
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I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his...
I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his riders actions.
UpTiTe wrote:
You're kidding right?
No
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fidiot 5/11/2015 5:43am
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I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his...
I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his riders actions.
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You must have missed the first few 250 West rounds..... Whistling
I've seen every 250 SX race for probably the last 15 years.
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dgmx wrote:
as someone who races arenacross and is friends with regal and hayes, hayes is a good dude, yah he went for the kill, lots of money...
as someone who races arenacross and is friends with regal and hayes, hayes is a good dude, yah he went for the kill, lots of money and pride on the line. ill bet most of you would do much worse at the shot for over $100,000 plus having a championship via dirtbikes.
With all due respect, Dave, the move at Vegas in no way resembled a racing incident. That was a cheap shot out of nowhere with a high probability of injury resulting. There is no room in the sport for this type of egregious take-out move.
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Motofinne 5/11/2015 5:57am
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I'v said this before but i think it's crazy that Hayes isn't getting more shit for the absolutely insane move on Regal.
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UpTiTe 5/11/2015 6:00am
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fidiot wrote:
I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his...
I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his riders actions.
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You're kidding right?
fidiot wrote:
No
Then maybe you should do some research on the way Mitch's guys have rode in the past then.
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ML512 5/11/2015 6:25am
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Tyler Bower's is on contract through next year and Mitch is only running four guys for outdoors this year.
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hvaughn88 5/11/2015 6:34am
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Yeah, Hayes' move(s) was total bullshit. Let's not lose sight of that. Having said that, I would have done the same, if not worse, for a six figure bonus when I was 21. Hell, I would probably still do it today for a six figure bonus. It still wasn't a smart move, obviously.
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Riesenberg448 5/11/2015 7:11am
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I'm glad people are watching and talking about Arenacross. That's good news. Though, don't pretend to be an expert after only a small sampling of the series. This isn't the first and won't be the last blatant t-bone, though atleast this one was for something more than losing a chick at the bar the night before.

Part of AX is supposed to be to help guys grow and mature into SX... well, learning moment right there, don't hold it against him forever. If it happens over and over? Then he earned that.

As far as filling in for Mitch or not because he is "dirty"...
Mitch hired and kept on his team Eric Sorby, Stephane Roncada, and Tyler Bowers off the top of my head. All were pretty controversial.

But it won't happen, no reason for it to happen. If Hayes dominates AX for a couple seasons like Tyler did, he might have a chance at a full time spot, not just a fill in.
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mx836 5/11/2015 7:21am
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What a bunch of whining. That's racing. It's Arenacross. He went for it and it didn't pay off. He will learn from it and lost the title because of that move. I think that's fair enough and you can all move on now.

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fidiot 5/11/2015 7:30am
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UpTiTe wrote:
You're kidding right?
fidiot wrote:
No
UpTiTe wrote:
Then maybe you should do some research on the way Mitch's guys have rode in the past then.
As I mentioned previously, I have watched every 250SX race in at least the past 15 years.
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People are saying Hayes is comparable to Bowers?
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What a bunch of whining. That's racing. It's Arenacross. He went for it and it didn't pay off. He will learn from it and lost the...
What a bunch of whining. That's racing. It's Arenacross. He went for it and it didn't pay off. He will learn from it and lost the title because of that move. I think that's fair enough and you can all move on now.
Well what if Regals career would be over now because of that move? I know, nothing happened but ffs. Regal is very, VERY lucky to be in one piece.
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Bowers used aggressive riding to win 4 (right?) titles. Hayes used cheap shots to earn himself a lesson he'll regret the rest of his life. Give the PC ride to someone who earns it and races respectfully.
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Dx3moto wrote:
Bowers used aggressive riding to win 4 (right?) titles. Hayes used cheap shots to earn himself a lesson he'll regret the rest of his life. Give...
Bowers used aggressive riding to win 4 (right?) titles. Hayes used cheap shots to earn himself a lesson he'll regret the rest of his life. Give the PC ride to someone who earns it and races respectfully.
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Mx286 5/11/2015 10:23am
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dgmx wrote:
as someone who races arenacross and is friends with regal and hayes, hayes is a good dude, yah he went for the kill, lots of money...
as someone who races arenacross and is friends with regal and hayes, hayes is a good dude, yah he went for the kill, lots of money and pride on the line. ill bet most of you would do much worse at the shot for over $100,000 plus having a championship via dirtbikes.
X2. I'm not 100% sure if half the people that post here even race.
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fidiot wrote:
I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his...
I'm no expert, but I do not think Mitch would hire a cheap shot artist like Hayes. Mitch runs a tight ship with regards to his riders actions.
why not? he hired Eric Sorby. he was well known for take outs.

who cares that he made a bad pass? if he had done that on the last lap for the win would there have been a problem? not in my book. sure it wouldnt garner a lot of fans but the title check cashes the same
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I'm glad people are watching and talking about Arenacross. That's good news. Though, don't pretend to be an expert after only a small sampling of the...
I'm glad people are watching and talking about Arenacross. That's good news. Though, don't pretend to be an expert after only a small sampling of the series. This isn't the first and won't be the last blatant t-bone, though atleast this one was for something more than losing a chick at the bar the night before.

Part of AX is supposed to be to help guys grow and mature into SX... well, learning moment right there, don't hold it against him forever. If it happens over and over? Then he earned that.

As far as filling in for Mitch or not because he is "dirty"...
Mitch hired and kept on his team Eric Sorby, Stephane Roncada, and Tyler Bowers off the top of my head. All were pretty controversial.

But it won't happen, no reason for it to happen. If Hayes dominates AX for a couple seasons like Tyler did, he might have a chance at a full time spot, not just a fill in.
Taking Regal out blatantly is one issue, throwing down your equipment and disrespecting members of your team is another.

Hayes is going to suffer from the consequences of his actions for awhile.
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fidiot 5/11/2015 10:55am
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dgmx wrote:
as someone who races arenacross and is friends with regal and hayes, hayes is a good dude, yah he went for the kill, lots of money...
as someone who races arenacross and is friends with regal and hayes, hayes is a good dude, yah he went for the kill, lots of money and pride on the line. ill bet most of you would do much worse at the shot for over $100,000 plus having a championship via dirtbikes.
Mx286 wrote:
X2. I'm not 100% sure if half the people that post here even race.
I would not be able to hold my head up proudly if the only way I could win was by completely wrecking my competition. I would only want to win because I am the best rider that day at that track, that year etc.

I suppose it could be compared to setting up a co-worker to take a fall and stabbing them in the back so you get a promotion.
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dgmx wrote:
as someone who races arenacross and is friends with regal and hayes, hayes is a good dude, yah he went for the kill, lots of money...
as someone who races arenacross and is friends with regal and hayes, hayes is a good dude, yah he went for the kill, lots of money and pride on the line. ill bet most of you would do much worse at the shot for over $100,000 plus having a championship via dirtbikes.
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With all due respect, Dave, the move at Vegas in no way resembled a racing incident. That was a cheap shot out of nowhere with a...
With all due respect, Dave, the move at Vegas in no way resembled a racing incident. That was a cheap shot out of nowhere with a high probability of injury resulting. There is no room in the sport for this type of egregious take-out move.
Ya, i think it would have been totally accepted and expected on the last lap for the win. But... He didnt even need to pass regal to win the championship, thats why people look at it as such a stupid move.
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dgmx 5/11/2015 12:03pm
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dgmx wrote:
as someone who races arenacross and is friends with regal and hayes, hayes is a good dude, yah he went for the kill, lots of money...
as someone who races arenacross and is friends with regal and hayes, hayes is a good dude, yah he went for the kill, lots of money and pride on the line. ill bet most of you would do much worse at the shot for over $100,000 plus having a championship via dirtbikes.
Starcrossed wrote:
With all due respect, Dave, the move at Vegas in no way resembled a racing incident. That was a cheap shot out of nowhere with a...
With all due respect, Dave, the move at Vegas in no way resembled a racing incident. That was a cheap shot out of nowhere with a high probability of injury resulting. There is no room in the sport for this type of egregious take-out move.
I agree dumb and dangerous

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