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I see in a few threads people saying RCH going Yamaha and JGR going Kawasaki or KTM...it is said like its fact....I am assuming its all guess and no one has facts to know for sure?
I would think Suzuki would be keen on RCH staying with them, I dont think Yamaha particulary care if they lose JGR.
Thoughts?
I would think Suzuki would be keen on RCH staying with them, I dont think Yamaha particulary care if they lose JGR.
Thoughts?
My hunch is KTM, that is not fact, its a hunch based on what I heard and the situation anther team is in.
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I would be very surprised to see JGR go there because of how KTM goes about that program... JGR wouldn't be doing their own stuff if they got involved with KTM.
That's not how Coy does things.
What's the incentive to go Kawi? Free bikes? Some money? Doesnt Monster already pay most of Kawi's bill. And how is PC gonna feel that another team is getting a 450 budget when Mitch has been wanting one for many years.
Yamaha, culturally, is a perfect fit for JGR.
I think we can rule out Honda considering what theyre paying Roczen. Suzuki is always pretending to be broke. As said earlier KTM & Coy wont mix. Im not sold on Kawi but I guess there isnt really any other options.
Yamaha could do a BTO deal.
Barcia on a KTM? Could be a great mix.
JGR is between Kawi & KTM is what everyone is saying. There's solid arguments against both.
JGR came close to going Suzuki in the past. But as you said, the Toyota sponsorship would hurt that now. I wasnt even thinking about that angle.
I hope they go Husky and that way KTM, in their own mind can somehow justify letting Coy run things his way.
I only say that because a "Toyota JGR Husky" graphics kit would be awesome and the first ever race replica graphics kit I'd ever put on my bike.
I will NEVER run a energy drink logo on anything I own. Clothing, graphics kit, or otherwise.
It actually boggles my mind that JGR is still in it, they've done it pretty rough for a start up... Tons of bad luck injury wise, a bike with a hoodoo rep, a mfg that hasn't always been that nice apparently.
Pit Row
I think satellite teams also have the problem of the parent company getting the say in a lot of deals. I remember Reed trying to get a top rider on his TwoTwo team, and Factory Kawi took that rider. Can't remember who it was. Seems like a lot of satellite teams lose a top rider to their factory team. Not sure why that is.
And JGR definitely had Deano in serious talks before he went JWR... and one other big guy after JS... maybe Eli? The shitty thing for them is that bike might be different, but to label it bad because JS was crashing on it, well, he crashed a shit load on a KX125 and an RMZ450...
I mean, are they going to throw away years of their own R and D on the Yamahas and start from scratch on a Suz/Kaw/Hon/KTM platform? How many years would that take?
Seems to me like an age old trick to get Yamaha's JGR contract money increased to me...
Can you imagine polishing the turd that was the 2012 YZF450 on your own dime, probably having large input into the design of the 2014, 15, and 16 chassis improvements only to have the Factory swoop in and step on your toes (stealing Webb)? AND THEN hoard info and tricks like Reeds swing arm mod (they used pit-bit photos to reverse engineer their own if I'm not mistaken), they wouldn't allow Phil to ride the Yamaha track, etc......
They may be on Yamaha's..... but they're not a Yamaha team IMO.
That's why Im not ruling out a return to blue for JGR. There are significant hurdles with the other two likely options (KTM & Kawi) that make "staying put" seem like the pragmatic thing to do.
For a moment there a couple years back there were a TON of satellite teams getting access to factory parts (TwoTwo, McBrooks, Jeff Ward Racing, Valli) that just evaporated as fast as they came into the sport.
I think a "satellite" team has to know their place and be ok with it and in that situation, things will work for a long time. Look at Gresini & Tech3 in MotoGP as great examples. Or Factory Connection & TLD in this sport. The very purpose of a satellite team is for them to be a holding spot for talent being groomed for the factory squad. That's why I think these satellites all belong in the 250 class and the factory's should just increase their roster size to 3-4 riders per team.
Like MXking809 said, JGR aint really a Yamaha "team". They cant have it both ways. They want funding from a OEM but they want to operate w/o interference. They can just go back to being a REALLY well run private team. Any of the OEM's will give them FREE bikes with no strings attached if that's all they are asking for.
It'd be nice if the satellites could compete for championships. That's part of what made the early 2000's of MotoGP so damn fun to watch.
The JGR / Yamaha marriage made sense when Yamaha was without a factory team just like the Yosh & RCH Suzuki teams make sense. But if Suzuki ever comes back full fledged, RCH's days of getting factory bits & budget are over also. Just the way it is right?
JGR's sponsor Toyota may not be down with that...
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