Idea for a new series

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I'd like to see a multi-discipline series take place. I know there have been crossover events in the past, but what do you guys think about this?

Round 1: outdoor motocross
Round 2: hare scramble
Round 3: Supercross
Round 4: Straight Rythmn
Round 5: outdoor motocross
Round 6: arenacross
Round 7: supermoto
Round 8: Supercross
Round 9: Endurocross
Round 10: outdoor motocross

The order may need work and it might be possible to combine some events into a single weekend (Endurocross and Arenacross?).

Okay, flame away!!


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1/18/2016 5:14am Edited Date/Time 1/18/2016 5:23am
OK, here goes...

What would you do about the field sizes? 40 one round, then 16 the next?

Would many pros risk injury in participating in another series? Who is going to make up the field?

How about a supermini round?lol...Pit bikes?
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Ryan Sipes would be the first to sign up
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OK, here goes... What would you do about the field sizes? 40 one round, then 16 the next? Would many pros risk injury in participating in...
OK, here goes...

What would you do about the field sizes? 40 one round, then 16 the next?

Would many pros risk injury in participating in another series? Who is going to make up the field?

How about a supermini round?lol...Pit bikes?
Good questions. Obviously some things would need to be figured out.

As far as field size goes, that's something you could work out. Maybe you limit it to 20 for all events. Or... with enough participation, you have normal fields with qualifiers to get into the main. You could always run a consolation race for positions 21-40 in the smaller field events to continue to pay points.

As for participation, that depends on how sweet the payout is. If you have a large enough purse and incentives to get the manufacturers on board, there would be participation. Flip side us this could be something for journeymen or "not quite top 5/10" guys. There are plenty of those guys.
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davis224 wrote:
Ryan Sipes would be the first to sign up
Mile Brown? The Alessi brothers? Ricky Dietrich?

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1/18/2016 5:29am Edited Date/Time 1/18/2016 5:33am
Sounds good.

Whose going to sanction the events and sponsor a series for these "journeymen?" 5-10 guys are factory riders.

Will there be enough interest to make it financially feasible?

The schedule is pretty full. When would this series run?
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1/18/2016 6:08am Edited Date/Time 1/18/2016 6:10am
The other thought would be to run something around Bike Week in Daytona.

They used to run Gatorback as the opening round of MX then the Daytona SX. Perhaps a week long series that has Gatorback (or another Florida outdoor track), Daytona SX, Palatka GNCC, then add an Endurocross, Arenacross, Supermoto and Straight Rythmn event. That's 7 events that could be held over 10 - 14 days. Offer it as a specialty series... maybe call it the Lucas Oil Ironman challenge. Those who choose to try and race all the events would score points towards the "Ironman Cup". Maybe say you must race 5 or 7 to qualify and offer $1 Million to the winner.

But each race would be stand alone during the week. Sort of like the Mini-O's used to be but for pros.

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davis224 wrote:
Ryan Sipes would be the first to sign up
ga_pike wrote:
Mile Brown? The Alessi brothers? Ricky Dietrich?
I'm sure they'd be up for it, but I think Sipes would have to be the hands down favorite, with getting a top 5 in a national recently, having won SX races on a 250, and winning the 6 days
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I'd like to see them be able to run an enduro cross type race inside a stadium they could really put some cool stuff inside. The enduro cross races now are fun tk each but it's the same onstacles and layout for the most part. With more room they could get creative.
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Probably be lots of crazy wrecks...people would love it. Would fighting be allowed?Grinning
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I always thought it would have been cool to combine mx and supercross into one series. Basically a supercross season with an outdoor national thrown in every 3 rounds of vice versa.
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Probably be lots of crazy wrecks...people would love it. Would fighting be allowed?Grinning
Could always add a UFC or WWE style cage match event to the mix. LOL
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As a spectator, it would be awesome. I would love that. As a competitor, it would be expensive as hell and like someone else mentioned, testing would be insane
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So how about a different 1 off race idea. Get TM to provide 20 250cc 2 strokes. Take the top 5 450 SX guys, top 5 450 outdoor guys, top 3 250 east and top 3 250 west guys. Then add 4 fan picks.

Have a Race of Champions style 2 stroke shootout at the MEC, winner takes all. Would that be more feasable?
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ga_pike wrote:
So how about a different 1 off race idea. Get TM to provide 20 250cc 2 strokes. Take the top 5 450 SX guys, top 5...
So how about a different 1 off race idea. Get TM to provide 20 250cc 2 strokes. Take the top 5 450 SX guys, top 5 450 outdoor guys, top 3 250 east and top 3 250 west guys. Then add 4 fan picks.

Have a Race of Champions style 2 stroke shootout at the MEC, winner takes all. Would that be more feasable?
Not if you already ride another brand
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ga_pike wrote:
So how about a different 1 off race idea. Get TM to provide 20 250cc 2 strokes. Take the top 5 450 SX guys, top 5...
So how about a different 1 off race idea. Get TM to provide 20 250cc 2 strokes. Take the top 5 450 SX guys, top 5 450 outdoor guys, top 3 250 east and top 3 250 west guys. Then add 4 fan picks.

Have a Race of Champions style 2 stroke shootout at the MEC, winner takes all. Would that be more feasable?
Lol fucking TM? Not a single top guy would ride one of those shit boxes

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ga_pike wrote:
The other thought would be to run something around Bike Week in Daytona. They used to run Gatorback as the opening round of MX then the...
The other thought would be to run something around Bike Week in Daytona.

They used to run Gatorback as the opening round of MX then the Daytona SX. Perhaps a week long series that has Gatorback (or another Florida outdoor track), Daytona SX, Palatka GNCC, then add an Endurocross, Arenacross, Supermoto and Straight Rythmn event. That's 7 events that could be held over 10 - 14 days. Offer it as a specialty series... maybe call it the Lucas Oil Ironman challenge. Those who choose to try and race all the events would score points towards the "Ironman Cup". Maybe say you must race 5 or 7 to qualify and offer $1 Million to the winner.

But each race would be stand alone during the week. Sort of like the Mini-O's used to be but for pros.

I like this
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I'd like to see changing the Red Bull drag race to one on one, (one lap) elimination bracket races at
Glen Helen...

Better yet build the track for the race on a track no one has ever raced...
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hvaughn88 wrote:
Not if you already ride another brand
Why not? NASCAR did it for a long time with single brand, specialty built cars.

The idea being put everyone on the exact same equipment. Doesn't have to be TM, could be KTM or Yamaha.

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hvaughn88 wrote:
Not if you already ride another brand
ga_pike wrote:
Why not? NASCAR did it for a long time with single brand, specialty built cars. The idea being put everyone on the exact same equipment. Doesn't...
Why not? NASCAR did it for a long time with single brand, specialty built cars.

The idea being put everyone on the exact same equipment. Doesn't have to be TM, could be KTM or Yamaha.

Because they wouldn't. I know it's not an elaborate answer, but I think it's an appropriate answer.
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I think it's an awesome idea! I don't know how feasible it is, but how awesome would it be to see who truly is a master of all disciplines. I could definitely see a guy like Haaker of Sipes taking it, I have a feeling watching most of the top MX/SX riders on an endurocross track would be pretty eye opening and have a decent comedy factor.Laughing
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No supermoto pls
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ga_pike wrote:
I'd like to see a multi-discipline series take place. I know there have been crossover events in the past, but what do you guys think about...
I'd like to see a multi-discipline series take place. I know there have been crossover events in the past, but what do you guys think about this?

Round 1: outdoor motocross
Round 2: hare scramble
Round 3: Supercross
Round 4: Straight Rythmn
Round 5: outdoor motocross
Round 6: arenacross
Round 7: supermoto
Round 8: Supercross
Round 9: Endurocross
Round 10: outdoor motocross

The order may need work and it might be possible to combine some events into a single weekend (Endurocross and Arenacross?).

Okay, flame away!!


Sounds good; make it happen.
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ga_pike wrote:
I'd like to see a multi-discipline series take place. I know there have been crossover events in the past, but what do you guys think about...
I'd like to see a multi-discipline series take place. I know there have been crossover events in the past, but what do you guys think about this?

Round 1: outdoor motocross
Round 2: hare scramble
Round 3: Supercross
Round 4: Straight Rythmn
Round 5: outdoor motocross
Round 6: arenacross
Round 7: supermoto
Round 8: Supercross
Round 9: Endurocross
Round 10: outdoor motocross

The order may need work and it might be possible to combine some events into a single weekend (Endurocross and Arenacross?).

Okay, flame away!!


Sounds good; make it happen.
Unfortunately, I didn't win the Powerball. Had I won however...
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There was a time when we had a "Grand Championship".

Go take a look at all the different types of racing Gary Jones raced...& won.
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Why not add flat tracking in there too...
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kiwifan wrote:
Why not add flat tracking in there too...
Someone's starting to get it...
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AMA Grand National Championship

The AMA Grand National Championship is an American motorcycle racing series. The race series, founded and sanctioned by the American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) in 1954, originally encompassed five distinct forms of competitions including; mile dirt track races, half-mile, short-track, TT steeplechase and road races.[1][2] Also known as flat track racing, the championship was the premier motorcycle racing series in the United States from the 1950s up until the late 1970s when, supercross events held in easily accessible major league stadiums became more popular.
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kiwifan wrote:
Why not add flat tracking in there too...
Works for me. Mini-O's used to be TT, SX, MX, and Grand Prix (Hare Scramble). My thought was to have the same bike for each event with "minor" changes, ie. tires if running Supermoto ot flat track, gearing, suspension setup, etc.

Anyways, I appreciate the additional discussion. Its something I think could be really cool but I doubt we'd ever see the top guys drawn to it. It would take a pretty large purse to entice them I think.
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My suggestions (modifications)

Round 1: Desert Hare and Hound
Round 2: Cross Country (or WORKS type race)
Round 3: Endurocross
Round 4: Peoria TT
Round 5: 1/4 mile flat track
Round 6: arenacross
Round 7: supermoto
Round 8: Enduro
Round 9: outdoor motocross
Round 10: Supercross

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