Posts
767
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Stillwater, OK
US
Edited Date/Time
9/24/2014 9:16am
The older I get the more I realize this "The customer is always right" stuff is BULL SHIT! I have quite a few vintage race bikes and have a few of them up for sale. Here is the story of trying to sell 2 of them.
I have a guy ask me to go out of my way to show him a bike at 6:00 a.m. this morning and he shows up in a car! Really?! If you're going to ask someone to show you a bike at 6 in the morning you should probably show up with a damn truck, cash, and be ready to buy if an acceptable deal is made.
Bike 2 is a bike that's out of the price range for most buyers. The first e-mail I get from the guy is "Is your price firm". Now I realize a lot of people are going to see nothing wrong with this, but this one pisses me off. I explain to him that I'm not in a hurry to get rid of the bike and that I would hold off unless I could get what I was asking out of it. This is when I get the big long 3 paragraph e-mail regarding the economy (Like I don't already know) and the low ball offer. I politely decline the offer. Now he comes back and makes an offer to pay the asking price if I let him pay $1000 down, and I hold on to the bike until he pays it off. Like I said I'm not in a hurry to get rid of the bike and I tell him we could arrange that. Then he e-mails me back "Oh I think I will just see if I can sell my bike first then I can just buy yours."
I have a guy ask me to go out of my way to show him a bike at 6:00 a.m. this morning and he shows up in a car! Really?! If you're going to ask someone to show you a bike at 6 in the morning you should probably show up with a damn truck, cash, and be ready to buy if an acceptable deal is made.
Bike 2 is a bike that's out of the price range for most buyers. The first e-mail I get from the guy is "Is your price firm". Now I realize a lot of people are going to see nothing wrong with this, but this one pisses me off. I explain to him that I'm not in a hurry to get rid of the bike and that I would hold off unless I could get what I was asking out of it. This is when I get the big long 3 paragraph e-mail regarding the economy (Like I don't already know) and the low ball offer. I politely decline the offer. Now he comes back and makes an offer to pay the asking price if I let him pay $1000 down, and I hold on to the bike until he pays it off. Like I said I'm not in a hurry to get rid of the bike and I tell him we could arrange that. Then he e-mails me back "Oh I think I will just see if I can sell my bike first then I can just buy yours."
You ain't seen nothing. hehehhee
All the low-balling-joe-dirt-looking-expert-lookie-lou-time-wasting-retarded-wanting-to-test-drive-joy-riding-freaks-of-nature come out of the wood work and dont forget the guy that can barley speak English that offers you 5k for a 50k low blue book boat. I thought it was bad enough up North trying to sell one...but down here in Florida it takes the cake...
I guess you can't get emotional, it's just business, but people need to learn some basic business etiquette.
I don't even really care about the low balling, I politely declined the low ball offer. It's when someone makes an offer (especially one that goes above and beyond what a normal deal should be) then pulls a flake move that pisses me off.
The Shop
Sometimes they are way high & sometimes way low....
IMO: Those books are only good for loan purposes when it comes to boats.
The last 2 boats I sold....
Nada Guide had my 1806 Pathfinder Bay boat listed at 7.5k...which was a joke.
I sold it within a month for 14k and had plenty of cash in hand offers in the 10 & 12k range that i turned down.
It also had my bullet bass boat listed at about 30k but with a different motor (250VMax).
My boat had a high performance 280 merc on it(did about 102 on GPs with just me in it vs 85 mph with a 250Vmax)....and lots of real spendy upgrades as far as the electronics & accessories went....I got 45k for it,but it took 4 months to sell it.
When certain things are a dime a dozen...they (the books) are usually on the high side....
But it really just depends.
Things are only worth what you can get for them.
Yep, for 4stroke MX bikes you can pretty much throw the blue book/NADA guide out the window.
Maybe they called it NADA because that's what your going to get for it...lol!
102mph in a freakin bass boat? that's crazy....
She gets out pretty smoking hot HUGE camel toe
I also had another deal go pretty bad recently. I had a lady who seemed very very nice want a TTR50 that I ended up with in a trade. She wanted a few certain things on it plastic and graphic wise. I told her I would get it the way she wanted it and sell it to her for what I thought was a very reasonable price $650. I asked for $100 up front since I was going to be putting some money into it that I normally wouldn't and she was very excited about it. Well finally she shows up with her boyfriend and he just goes into total ass hole mode trying to pick it apart etc. and repeats several times how they're just not going to pay over $500 for it. I explained that I would have to decline and if he wanted a perfect one that they sell new ones. The poor girl was almost in tears, I called her the next day and gave her $100 back but probably shouldn't have.
It was 20ft in length....It held 58 gallons of fuel...but when you left about 15 gallons in it and got rid of the 3 extra trolling motor batteries and took the trolling motor off the front,emptied all the compartments etc... to lighten it. I got it up to 102mph with a hand held GPS attached to the steering wheel.Had a hot foot in it..gas pedal..trim was turn signal trim( ez to operate at high speeds).Had a 12 inch Jack Plate on it also that was set back a little.When you hit that jack plate after you were trimmed out ,it felt life you were floating on air,only about 2-3 inches of the boat was in the water. Full load (capped off with gas,livewell full etc..) with me & another guy ran about 80-85 mph depending on conditions,but you couldn't raise the plate all the way up because of to much weight in the rear (that is where the fuel tanks were),it would chine walk really bad.
It's not something you just go out and buy & do.
I have had boats my whole life and it's something that you work your way up to and learn how to drive it.
I did however scare a few friends in it.
But boats like that are huge money pits....
You change a prop playing around with it to try to get more low end or top end and drive shafts break.
About 3k to get one replaced.
Hit something and destroy a lower unit...their about 9k to get replaced.
Pit Row
That river can be calm as glass in morning and 3 to 4ft roller & white caps in the afternoon when the wind picks up.
We were fishing a tournament out of Camas Washington and plan was to run up near Bonneville Dam to this
little slough right next to an area called Beacon Rock. We flew up there fished and got a small limit and were
heading back at about 4PM and we were going about 75mph through this area called Cape Horn (are weigh-in time was 4:15).My partner was an old buddy of mine....but it was his first time in that boat with me (he was one of those big talkers,you know nothing scares me).It was so rough....and I was flying through that area pretty much tripling 4ft high white caps at 75mph.I looked over at him he had had his head bowed down grabbing the handle on the console,
he had his eyes closed ,hands & knuckles looked white because he was gripping it so hard.
He looked scared to death....When we got back to weigh-in,he was trembling...even 30 minutes later his knees were still shaking. lol My Scott googles held up that day though lol.
I made the mistake of unknowingly replying to an ad he had for an 81YZ250 and once it became clear that something wasn't right with his replies I asked him not to contact me again. In keeping with his usual style, his emails continued and became more and more belligerent as time went on..ultimately blocked his email addy.
A year or so later, I have the 81YZ250 at a practice track and a guy walks up looking at it asking if I was interested in selling it. As the dude was introducing himself, I was shaking his hand as he said his name was Todd Applegate, I pretty much pulled my hand back mid-handshake!
and have a 1 hour drive home, anyway guy calls and wants to see it at 6:30 this morning, shows up with his mechanic buddy, i let them test drive,,give them the hole nine yard deal with everything, and bring out every part i have for it. KOOK says he Loves it but has to look at 2 others, and would PROBABLY like to buy it tomorrow morning around the same time
FU is what i wanted to say but instead i told him someone else is coming to buy it if you don't. SEE YA Dickhead
I feel like i don't even want him to have it, even if he calls again to purchase !
I realize at some point someones probably told you this is the right way to work a deal but it's not. Obviously you had no idea but you've found my biggest pet peeve. You made an offer I could live with, I accepted, then you pulled a flake move. I'm sure you're a very nice guy and all but I don't do business like this. Please do not e-mail me again.
No holding it for a week while you rustle the dough up. If it's still here when you have the dough, buy it then.
The used bikes I've sold I price low to sell fast, so I'm not inclined to go a lot lower. And I'll usually strip the good stuff to sell on ebay or close the deal by tossing it in then. It just takes too long to sell bikes unless you price them right at the start. It's amazing how many Craigslist ads (and I check every day) you see repeating for months on some generic bike priced at blue book where the seller insists the bike is worth that much even though other people are selling the same bike for a grand or two less. If you aren't really trying to sell, but just find a premium buyer and are willing to wait that out, fine, but I think most of those folks do want to sell now and don't have a grasp what the bike's worth on the market now. And I don't really have a problem giving a guy his asking price if I know it's fair in the market and the bike's in good shape.
Fast Eddy, Good times, I have a 24t tower Pathfinder and a Triton tr 19, I don't know where you are located but I fish a lot and always looking for tourney partners, especially ones that talk moto. lol I am a 3rd generation guide and tourney angler. I am in Fort Myers and I know Okeechobee like the back of my hand and was leading the bassbusters series this year until i blew my powerhead. I have cashed quite a few checks for the little green fish. Repowering the Triton next month. This is my favorite time of year to fish.
And as far as not buying on the first trip I can't agree on that one, I guess if you have lots of free time. If I'm going to look at something I'm going because I'm going to buy it if it's what I'm looking for. No use wasting everyones time with multiple trips.
Post a reply to: I have to vent! Acceptable behavior when purchasing a motorcycle.