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I don't want this to turn into a pissing match, but I'm sure it will. Just gonna give my opinion on the subject.
I think the MXGP's are really doing it right. The tracks (for the most part) are unique and challenging. They have riders representing the globe, as opposed to Menifee CA. I like what they do with team and rider branding a little more than here, but it's not that dissimilar. The TV coverage is actual race coverage, which would put the casual fan to sleep, but I enjoy it very much. The actual racing product is good, there's a lot of disparity.
Then I tune into SX on Saturday night. Uninspired tracks, every rider's hometown is listed as California or Florida, they have attempted to do a NASCAR style of branding within a team structre but is not as good as the GP team branding, the TV coverage is laughable although live HD is fantastic, and the racing is usually an absolute snooze fest. If CBS Sports aired their motos Saturday night, I'd rather watch that.
AMA motocross is still doing well, but somehow the racing still seems to suffer compared to the GP's.
Just an opinion from an American motocross fan.
I think the MXGP's are really doing it right. The tracks (for the most part) are unique and challenging. They have riders representing the globe, as opposed to Menifee CA. I like what they do with team and rider branding a little more than here, but it's not that dissimilar. The TV coverage is actual race coverage, which would put the casual fan to sleep, but I enjoy it very much. The actual racing product is good, there's a lot of disparity.
Then I tune into SX on Saturday night. Uninspired tracks, every rider's hometown is listed as California or Florida, they have attempted to do a NASCAR style of branding within a team structre but is not as good as the GP team branding, the TV coverage is laughable although live HD is fantastic, and the racing is usually an absolute snooze fest. If CBS Sports aired their motos Saturday night, I'd rather watch that.
AMA motocross is still doing well, but somehow the racing still seems to suffer compared to the GP's.
Just an opinion from an American motocross fan.
two vs. four...
The GP's are a breath of fresh air...
I thought Supercross was just something to pass the time through the winter... Now it's the main event...
The Shop
Supercross for me I skip through the heats then watch the main, SX is probably my least favorite, the mains are too short for anyone with bad start to catch up, the 450s are just too much of a bike for SX.
AMA MX I enjoy a lot more.
Mxgp Is great, mainly because of its tracks it's completely different each round.
The Nationals are the hot chick that's wearing a short skirt and has got em out and doesn't care if you look
Both are great
(yes I'm comparing GPs to Nationals instead of SX)
Just giving you a hard time Jdub
I have seen the little highlight videos on line, those seem cool!
But that changed the last years, and now I really care more about the GPs. The US series, well, they get boring and predictable fast. For years I was getting up in the middle of the night to watch SX live, but since 2 or 3 years I just don't care that much about SX anymore. And the AMA National (just as the SX series) is a pain in the ass to find a way to watch it live or delayed if you are not in the US. And if you find a way to watch it (illegal or legal) you are lucky to see half of the laps of the races because of commercials and stuff.
The GPs, you have to pay to watch it, but then you can watch the whole race, live or delayed. And that alone makes it so much better to follow and watch everything. Well this year so far I even watched the races on Eurosport in HD on my TV for free. And the fact that in the GPs (well at least MXGP, not so much the MX2 class) the races are right now so close and unpredictable, on different kind of tracks each round is just so much more exciting for me than watching nearly the same kind of dirt every weekend on the US Nationals.
BUT, I am so happy that there are three major championships to follow. And I am for sure keep track of all three as good as possible.
Pit Row
For me MotoGP has become the number one racing series to follow. All three classes there are just amazing to watch and the races are exciting every race weekend.
SX becomes a snooze fest after 10 rounds, that happens 9 times out of 10. I watch all the races "illegally" when i wake up on Sunday mornings. I skip to the mains. I still can't understand how they have a night of racing that doesn't mean anything but gate positions and then a short main. I would like to see only one heat race and then 2 or 3 finals. Or maybe no heat racing on TV at all?
The GPs is in my opinion at the moment the best package of offroad racing. The GP class is incredibly uncertain before every race. Especially since the tracks actually are different from week to week. The races are in HD and without any commercials. I like Malin, i wish he would always have a 2nd person with him though. And i really like the EMX series.
The nationals is great. There are however a few problems. The commercials. I know that they have to be there but it is horrible to watch motos when they get interrupted multiple times. Weege and Grant are awesome. The tracks/track prep is a problem in my opinion. The riders are seriously using one tire through SX and MX. It's ridiculous. The layouts are different yes but the prep is exactly the same and the tracks develop the same. And that is were the GPs shine. The different tracks and track prep is what keeps the series exiting even if a certain rider is running away with the championship since different riders are good at different track surfaces.
But we should all be happy that we have 3 high end MX/SX series to watch. But of these 3 SX has a lot of work to do. And the chase system will not solve it.
The nats are run by a guy that cares ,takes and listens to criticism ,makes changes when needed, and cares about the riders.
I watch both but we all know which one is best even though so of you won't admit that I reckon.
When it comes to the TV i prefer AMA by a mile, cant stand that Burnicle clown
With the tracks the GP's have some good tracks but spoil it with the size of the advertising, they really dont give a fuck about the paying spectator. I am not fussed if there is a couple of tracks that dont have hills everywhere, its different and not all the same.
My only gripe with the AMA tracks is the way they are prepped, they all seem to just turn into rutted lanes like a slot car race. I think they need to stop the backhoe everywhere. And there really needs to be a couple of true sand tracks in the series (Southwick isnt even close)
Supercross is boring right now. There's a few different guys that can win on any given night but only really one that's likely to (and even more so in regards to the points chase). That can only be helped so much but I think a change to the format is in order. Shorten the series to 14 rds, combine the 250 East and West coasts into one championship, and perhaps have 2 main events per class (20 laps).
TV is horrible for international guys trying to watch either AMA SX or MX. You always end up having to rely on an illegal stream at some point. With the GPs... it's pretty much perfect. If it's not on TV then you pay a few quid and never have to worry about it again.
Different tracks and types of soil? GP's win that one.
Close racing? GP's last couple years have been great.
This is pretty much what I think of the matter too.
Except I don't follow MotoGP that much.
Seriously that really makes sense
I love everything about US motocross, maybe with the one exception of track variation. I have really grown away from SX over the years. I get excited for A1 and the first couple of rounds, then I might set the DVR and watch a few tape delayed, but by now I am pretty over it and usually forget to set the DVR and don't really care. The whole presentation has become pretty ridiculous, the tracks are not interesting, and the 250 class is far more interesting than the 450's.
I have nothing against the GP's, they have a lot of good going on right now. If I lived abroad I would probably be a GP loyalist, though pissed at the leadership because it could be so much better.
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