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KimJongUn
10/29/2017 6:45pm
10/29/2017 6:45pm
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10/30/2017 8:26pm
Has anybody ever put a KTM hydraulic clutch on a Honda? What all would be involved? Machine the case to fit and the slave cylinder would work?
I've seen the Magura but I'm not big on the lever and master cylinder.. looks cheap. Could I use just the Magura slave cylinder and KTM lever/line/master cylinder?
Maybe the 2019 Honda's will have hydraulic clutch from the factory...
I've seen the Magura but I'm not big on the lever and master cylinder.. looks cheap. Could I use just the Magura slave cylinder and KTM lever/line/master cylinder?
Maybe the 2019 Honda's will have hydraulic clutch from the factory...
BTW what do you not like about the magura levers? Magura has come stock on some ktms and huskies, I think they feel better than the brembos. The biggest problem in feel between ktm hydros and the Japanese is that the Magura system for turning cable into hydro clutches still uses the rotating arm, where as ktm has the slave mounted on the case pushing straight into the pin. Makes for a more direct feeling clutch (because it is)
I'm not sure if you could use the brembo master cylinder with a Magura slave as I believe they use different oils. And even if they use the same oil, you might have problems with the throw.
The Shop
I loved them on my Gas Gasesses.
125's I prefer a cable
I also prefer cable over hydro and cannot understand all the hype about hydro clutches. Reliability and maintenance of cable is much more sane. A properly setup cable has much better feel than a hydraulic clutch. A badly setup and or maintained cable is off course terrible as would a failing hydo be ... Cost to repair refurbish same parts .... ! Just because it costs more does not make it better.
Isn't this where I say "if anyone wants to say something about me using a hydraulic clutch in 2003 to my face, come and see me at the track"?
Pit Row
I was thinking about mounting a hydro setup on mine but since the cable is pull and the hydro is push, I was just going to make a piece to bolt/weld to the arm where the cable hooks to and make it extend off the other side where it can be pushed. Then make some sort of bracket to mount the slave. All external so no need for machining the cover or anything.
Installed a Magura kit on my 18 CRF450. Works perfectly. As expected, feel is nicer with a cable, but I don't really drag the clutch a lot on the 450 so the shorter span and more "on/off feeling" suits me very well. Had two rides on it so far, no problems, took 10 minutes to install and came ready to mount.
I've put in 5 hours on a demo CRF450 as well with the OEM clutch, and did not like that.
Do you think hydraulic brakes are unreliable as well?
I wonder if his mind would be blown to know that brakes are hydraulic too...I heard they have nearly a 75% failure rate, better go back to cable
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