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I have a few bikes over the years that I have won, or bought from riders who have been sponsored and got free bikes.
None of them have titles. I have asked the dealer that awarded me the bike to produce a title, but they have no record of it/ also they sold the business a few years back. They really have tried, even contacting Honda (one of the bikes is a 06 CRF450) and Honda has no record.
The other bike is a 08 Kwacker 450. I think I also need to get a title for my 05 CRF that is in parts and up to be bought next week.
I have been to DMV and they have no record of the bike(s) ever being titled.
Any ideeers?
None of them have titles. I have asked the dealer that awarded me the bike to produce a title, but they have no record of it/ also they sold the business a few years back. They really have tried, even contacting Honda (one of the bikes is a 06 CRF450) and Honda has no record.
The other bike is a 08 Kwacker 450. I think I also need to get a title for my 05 CRF that is in parts and up to be bought next week.
I have been to DMV and they have no record of the bike(s) ever being titled.
Any ideeers?
And then pay state sales tax. That is what dealers have to do (in AZ at least), the state will not issue a title unless you can show where the bike came from (many late model dealer or factory team bikes fall into this category since they were never titled by a dealer).
Does anyone have a fastrack to this connection? I'm sure it is easy if I can talk to the right person.
I am hoping for some legal options for non existent titles. I ran into a car friend of mine tonight and he flipped his hand and said "I can have a title for you made." $400 How does that happen? It has to be on the books?......right?
The Shop
I guess selling it to some non-moto person. Never mind. Answered my own question.
Now the bad part. You will most likely have to pay the tax on the bike before they give you the title and unless you have a bill of sale, you will pay tax on retail cost.
So the bikes you "won", you will pay tax on retail value when new.
Or you can try to get a certificate of origin which is what you would call Honda or the manufacturer for, but only for the bikes you "won", the sponsored riders should have at least gotten a certificate of origin and if they did not give it to you, you will almost have to title it.
It's not as easy as it once was, but can still be done.
In AZ..no proof of tax paid? You're paying taxes, on what they deemed the motorcycle was originally bought for!
You could also look into the possibility of applying for an abandon title , since there is no title they shouldn't be able to have anyone step up and claim ownership.
This is how it works in Iowa - I have to get a hold of the police and have an officer come to my house with paper work - they show up pretty quick, so you have to do it when you have a free day. They check my bill of sale and run a VIN check (with my neighbors staring out their windows at the cop parked in my driveway). When that goes through, they finish the paper work and give it to me. Then I go to the county treasurer to get the title and registration process finished.
In Iowa, the people who work with automobile titles are not the same one that deal with off road vehicle titles. You should be able to look up the process on the Florida DMV web site.
In California, I believe you can do it by affidavit w/o MSO, but what we can do here is irrelevant to Florida.
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