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Maybe I should have said 30K and unlimited Red Bull ?
Anyway, hasn't the rumor been 2 years, 5 million?
500guy doesn't know how to read, but he's great at making shit up.
I do love the $20 mil guess.
Bonuses!!!!! With Dungeys supposed $400,000 base salary in 2010, he probably earned a few million more after winning like 12 races and 2 titles. They estimate each title is worth $1 mil and each win worth $100,000 in bonus. Sponsors also have bonuses and don't forget, Fox and friends are also throwing money at them. I remember seeing way back when that RJ's Fox deal was worth $100,000 a year, plus bonuses. It all adds up. My guess is that RV gets around $1 mil in base salary. He at least tripled that in 2011 in bonuses.
Don't forget, many years a salary goes to someone that is hurt. Look at what Honda got out of Grant and Canard this year. They still got paid.
$2.5 mil a year base is a big chunk considering that Dungey could end up with twice that much in bonuses. Of course RV will probably not allow that, but that is why Dungey went with the guaranteed money.
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I would say Dungey made $5 mil in 2010 after ALL bonuses and sponsorships were accounted for. Sponsors like Makita and RockStar help Suzuki pay Dungey's salary. Target and Nike are Dungey's own deal. I would guess Stewart may have sniffed $10 mil at times after all was said and done. We forget, Reed couldn't even find a suitable ride for 2011. Think that was because he was turning down deals that could only earn him a mere $1 million?
I was being sarcastic with the $20 mil. figure.
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As you can see the numbers also show how bike sales are in the shitter, they go from $800M revenues in '08 and drop TWO HUNDRED MILLION over two years...that ain't chump change.
RD probably got what he would have gotten anywhere else, the big difference with KTM is Roger Decoster and a team that WANTS to win.
KTM wants to prove they can win in AMA, and according to their shareholder statements, they want to be in a position to grow as the US market comes back (whenever it is that happens)...having guys like Dungey and Roczen winning over the next two years will translate into showroom sales when people are buying bikes again (at least that's the plan...)
That said Red Bull is a privately owned Austrian company. Maybe Mr. Red Bull has decided he wants to see another Austrian company do well and has said "do whatever it takes". Clearly Red Bull likes motorsports (ie they are title sponsor for a MEGA dollar F1 team)
From my understanding and going back to when Ryan first signed with Suzuki....
"It was not about the money" were Michelle's exact words when I asked her some questions.
It was more about the over all program and working with Rodger.
Ryan had success working with Rodger....so I'm sure that is what would have influenced him
to go to KTM in the first place. Not necessarily the dollar amount....But I'm sure the dollar amount has to make sense for all involved. Rodger has led a lot of winning teams over the years and I'm sure he knows what direction their (KTM's) program needs to go in and what necessary steps need to be taken to go in that direction.
I just dont see them throwing around a bunch of money (8 figure millions range) to rider and hoping their equipment & program cuts it for him.
AC/Roczen/Herlings have all proven they can win on a KTM in the GP's....but when it comes to here (in the AMA SX & MX) that might be comparing apples to oranges when it comes to their big bikes (350 & 450).
With all taken into consideration.
I'm gonna guess that directly (out of KTM's pocket) with KTM.....around 3million for 2 years with possible bonuses skying to about the 7million mark...maybe a little more (1million per championship plus race win bonuses).
if Redbull says make it happen, and is KTM says, lets get serious...... You could easily see some 2004~2006 money being thrown Dungeys way.
It was said 5 mil a year, on a 2 year deal, with the 2nd year being Ryans option.
by the way, I loved MXR's post, made me go, yep! "2 DNF's , 1 DNS and two championship bonus checks on the wall with insufficient funds"
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it's no secret that KTM has to pay 2-3 times what the others do here in the States. I would wager all things considered Dungey stand to earn 10 Mil in 2012
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