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I liked the ISDE Day 1 video on the homepage. Hope every day gets put up there.
But it left me with a question that, frankly, I'm embarrassed I don't already know the answer to.
How does ISDE scoring work? Apparently it's a time score- the trophy team had a score near 4 hours, the Junior team in the two-hour range, and the women in the 1+ range.
Do they average the team times, take the best two or three, or what?
Thanks in advance.
But it left me with a question that, frankly, I'm embarrassed I don't already know the answer to.
How does ISDE scoring work? Apparently it's a time score- the trophy team had a score near 4 hours, the Junior team in the two-hour range, and the women in the 1+ range.
Do they average the team times, take the best two or three, or what?
Thanks in advance.
In trophy you drop your worst time of each individual test and add all of the rest up. Not sure how junior works but I'm guessing the same way (take 3 drop 1).
Making more sense?
World trophy team score, day 1, was 3:42. If the top 2 of 3 count and the times add, that's an average time per rider of 1 hr. and 51 min. The course map said it was 260km, which in my world is 162 miles. So each rider averaged about 87 mph. Nope.
What am I missing?
Also, the Junior and Women's team times were lower, so are they doing a shortened course?
Edit- I was considering a 3-person team based on the video of the team riders leaving together. Per Gringoe, that rider count was wrong. But that just makes the cumulative time and average speed assessment worse. Something is missing or wrong in my formula...
There is only 3 riders times counting in junior as opposed to 5 in trophy.
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I think I'm going to see Drew Smith this weekend at a vintage hare scramble event- I'll pick his brain about it.
Penalties add time, there is all kinds of penalties.....
One can hour out if your more than an hour behind the class leader.
Medals are awarded on time and percentage of riders within X of the class leader.
Gold - Silver - Bronze
Classes: E1, E2, E3, Junior, Women, Men
Club Teams have 3 riders per team......
I believe they use what some call a "re-start" format. Unlike a traditional enduro where you have to maintain an average speed in order to get to checkpoints on time (not too early, not too late), they use special tests to time everyone. Usually special tests are a few miles of tricky trails, but sometimes it can incorporate a moto track, grass track, some trials riding, speed runs, or even sounds runs (not sure if they do those anymore though...). Then you have a designated amount of time to get to the next special test. Unlike a traditional enduro, I believe you can go as fast as you want to the next test without being penalized for being early, eliminating the need for each rider to keep track of his own timekeeping. If you get there late, there are still penalties, but none for getting there early (although I believe getting there early is still no easy task). At the end of the day, they add up all the teams' special test times and penalties and go on to the next day.
Last time I checked, all the National Enduros are run this way now. A few of our local D14 races are still run in the old traditional enduro style, so it's fun to get a little bit of variety every once in a while, but the re-start format definitely makes for an easier race (mentally at least).
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There are trail sections, special tests and transport sections, all connected to make a day's riding.
Trail stages have a set time (down to the minute) in which you have to complete the section. Arriving early or late incurs a penalty equal to how far from the set time you are. There is a large clock at each control showing the official time. If you make up trail time and arrive early you can stop just before the control, refuel, eat, repair the bike etc, then ride through the control on your minute.
You can't make up lost trail time. At the start of each day, riders are given a time card that specifies the exact minute they need to start and finish each trail section. If you are late into one section by one minute, you get a one minute penalty, and you need to adjust all of your times for the rest of the day by one minute.
Special tests are timed, and can be trails or motocross tracks. They can be incorporated into the middle of a trail section, or standalone.
Penalties are for lost trail time, as well as other infringements e.g. bike not starting on cold start test, illegal repairs etc.
Total time for each rider each day = total trail time + total special test times + penalties.
Riders are ranked by how far in time they are behind the fastest rider.
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