Herlings says he underestimated the MXGP class

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Interesting read:

http://gatedrop.com/herlings-i-underestmated-mxgp-class/
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RG1 4/15/2017 3:34pm
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It's easy to see why he fell into that trap. He got on it and was immediately successful. From his point of view if it ain't broke don't fix it, which is why I guess he didn't test too much. I still think that his pre season injuries are what has hindered him most. If they hadn't have happened, he'd have been just as good as he was at MXoN. I think he underestimated how much a month off the bike at that point of pre season would cost him too
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Mr Happy 4/15/2017 4:04pm
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Well he talks about being quicker on a 250. The quickest race lap times in MX2 are at least a second quicker than the MXGP class at some tracks. It may be getting to the point with the 500, 250 and 125 classes again. Having the 500s around, and developing them, is pointless if the 250s are quicker. Why not jump on one and try it.
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davistld01 4/15/2017 4:17pm
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I have to say that I am amazed by Herlings' honesty and transparency. He was so arrogant and cocky when he was in the 250's and I didn't like him much...although I had to admit he was faster than hell. I like the guy now because he's telling it how it is, being humble enough to say he underestimated the guys he is racing against and the work it takes to be at that level. Good stuff.

Ok...I'm a Herlings fan.

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Sodipop 4/15/2017 4:29pm
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I tend to think he's too prideful to actually make excuses. His constant injuries hindered him and he's not close to his best right now.
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BMSOBx2 4/15/2017 4:39pm
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It's easy to be cocky when you are smoking everyone like he was on the 250. I agree his injuries have been a big factor. The 500 class is entirely different & requires restraint with the right hand to truly go fast. Best sand rider I ever saw.
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Sargent Rock 4/15/2017 4:47pm
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I like the guy from his interviews......humility always works.
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Brent 4/15/2017 4:49pm
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He says he will ride the 350 if things continue the way they are going. That may be a good idea a this point, it will be a lot more like his 250 with more HP.
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SKlein 4/15/2017 5:08pm
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Jrewing wrote:
So he wasn't really a sandbagger..
I don't quite think that's how it works.
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kiwifan 4/15/2017 5:22pm
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RG1 wrote:
It's easy to see why he fell into that trap. He got on it and was immediately successful. From his point of view if it ain't...
It's easy to see why he fell into that trap. He got on it and was immediately successful. From his point of view if it ain't broke don't fix it, which is why I guess he didn't test too much. I still think that his pre season injuries are what has hindered him most. If they hadn't have happened, he'd have been just as good as he was at MXoN. I think he underestimated how much a month off the bike at that point of pre season would cost him too
he actually says the last two races he has been pain free and cant explain his results....he isnt (unlike his fans) making any excuses for the past 2 race results...I like that honesty
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resetjet 4/15/2017 5:26pm
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Why would a 250 ever be quicker on those tracks?????? Now that a stock 450 is just as light?????
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ML512 4/15/2017 5:29pm
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resetjet wrote:
Why would a 250 ever be quicker on those tracks?????? Now that a stock 450 is just as light?????
It's all about the inertia the engine produces, how it effects direction change and bike balance...also how the power delivery changes your line selection, rear and front end load...
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zehn 4/15/2017 5:55pm
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resetjet wrote:
Why would a 250 ever be quicker on those tracks?????? Now that a stock 450 is just as light?????
ML512 wrote:
It's all about the inertia the engine produces, how it effects direction change and bike balance...also how the power delivery changes your line selection, rear and...
It's all about the inertia the engine produces, how it effects direction change and bike balance...also how the power delivery changes your line selection, rear and front end load...
And the 250s run first, right?
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visser62 4/15/2017 8:28pm
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I still think it's mostly his injury.

He won the last moto at the MXdN, won a race at the SMX Cup, and had just passed Gajser in Italy when he crashed and broke his hand.
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BMSOBx2 wrote:
It's easy to be cocky when you are smoking everyone like he was on the 250. I agree his injuries have been a big factor. The...
It's easy to be cocky when you are smoking everyone like he was on the 250. I agree his injuries have been a big factor. The 500 class is entirely different & requires restraint with the right hand to truly go fast. Best sand rider I ever saw.
Don't kid yourselves, 500's are gone and so have the real men!

450's are for Metrosexuals!

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kzizok 4/15/2017 9:30pm
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I think he is now saying what he has thought for a while now, in regards to how tough the 450 really is. I think that was a pretty good factor (not the only one, but a good portion) as to why he kept staying down. That is one of the reasons why so many people were critical of him staying down because there was a faster class to compete in, hence the term sandbagger (cherry picker). Furthermore, some argue that you cant sandbag (cherry pick) at the professional level, but the 450 class has a higher/deeper level of competition than the 250 class.
Finnish_Flash_62 4/16/2017 1:05am
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I liked how honest and humble he was about everything. His hand might be pain free but we still haven't seen the best of him due to the time he had to be off the bike and riding injured etc. He has shown promise in the Dutch nationals and yesterday his riding and bodylanguage on the bike looked much better than it did in Mexico. He just needs a good start and run with the guys out front for a while and build his confidence back up. He'll get there eventually, but like he said the championship is gone already.

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Aryen 4/16/2017 1:12am
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Before the season I was 100% sure he was gonna win Valkenswaard. Now: not so sure.

Hopefully he will find his mojo back quick. We know he has it after MXoN and SMX.
Motocross83 4/16/2017 1:35am
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He's got a unique technique and riding style, the way he works very much from the centre and rear of the bike. The 450 I'm sure reacts completely differently and require a lot more strength. Also mentally, the injuries... All these guys are carrying minor pains all the time of course, but Jeffrey really has been through the wars almost every season it seems.
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RG1 4/16/2017 1:53am
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RG1 wrote:
It's easy to see why he fell into that trap. He got on it and was immediately successful. From his point of view if it ain't...
It's easy to see why he fell into that trap. He got on it and was immediately successful. From his point of view if it ain't broke don't fix it, which is why I guess he didn't test too much. I still think that his pre season injuries are what has hindered him most. If they hadn't have happened, he'd have been just as good as he was at MXoN. I think he underestimated how much a month off the bike at that point of pre season would cost him too
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he actually says the last two races he has been pain free and cant explain his results....he isnt (unlike his fans) making any excuses for the...
he actually says the last two races he has been pain free and cant explain his results....he isnt (unlike his fans) making any excuses for the past 2 race results...I like that honesty
He's not still injured now, but still missing a month of riding right before the season starts leaves you playing catch up, as we are seeing now. At the point where everyone was really amping up their preparation and building for the start of the season, he was on the couch. That makes a difference. He doesn't really have to make excuses because everyone knows how good he is and he's obviously not his self
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It's mental. Somewhere during the pre-season injury, the loss of practice time etc. he lost his confidence.

Anybody who has seen him ride before can see that he's not the Same and not taking on the track like he did for years.

Herlings is better then fighting mid pack with guys he used to beat by over a minute like Butron and Guillod. Or getting beaten consistently by Anstie.

I'm curious to see what the way out of this is. I dont know if he can get to the level of Gasjer but he ismuch better then this current form.
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PressPassP 4/16/2017 4:23am
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It's strange because of what you say there and I've seen him destroy a bunch of these guys while on a 350 too.
Maybe this injury has affected him more than he realizes sub-contiously
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Aryen 4/16/2017 6:54am
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He's had enough bike time by now.

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TDeath21 4/16/2017 7:01am
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Eh. I don't quite understand this. I just think his injuries hindered him and he hasn't hit his full stride yet. Every other time he has been on a 450/350, he's been a top guy.
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UpTiTe 4/16/2017 8:07am
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davistld01 wrote:
I have to say that I am amazed by Herlings' honesty and transparency. He was so arrogant and cocky when he was in the 250's and...
I have to say that I am amazed by Herlings' honesty and transparency. He was so arrogant and cocky when he was in the 250's and I didn't like him much...although I had to admit he was faster than hell. I like the guy now because he's telling it how it is, being humble enough to say he underestimated the guys he is racing against and the work it takes to be at that level. Good stuff.

Ok...I'm a Herlings fan.
I think he is the same guy, honest. He says it like it is, win or lose.
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UpTiTe 4/16/2017 8:08am
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resetjet wrote:
Why would a 250 ever be quicker on those tracks?????? Now that a stock 450 is just as light?????
Motor, power delivery.
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resetjet wrote:
Why would a 250 ever be quicker on those tracks?????? Now that a stock 450 is just as light?????
UpTiTe wrote:
Motor, power delivery.
Yeppers
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PFitzG38 4/16/2017 12:21pm
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resetjet wrote:
Why would a 250 ever be quicker on those tracks?????? Now that a stock 450 is just as light?????
Rotating Mass
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Cashmore 4/16/2017 12:33pm
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He'll get it figured out... maybe the 350 will suit him better. Only time will tell

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