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8/20/2012 1:28 PM

If you hate a rider such as JS7 or Alessi800..... why?

I want to know the thought process and purpuse behind hating a rider and rooting for injury. There are people on this board who do....

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8/20/2012 1:31 PM

Wait, wait I know the answer!! I don't hate the rider I just don't like his fans.............

Personally, I don't hate any rider. There may be some that I don't care for, but I can't really think of any current racers that bother me much.


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8/20/2012 1:37 PM

P....

I think its getting worse. I def have my favorites. My dream race is to see to RD5, TC41, CR22, RV2, MA800, JS7 all bundled up during the white flag at a National. Let best man win.

There are folks who want serious injury so they can say I told so, or because they do not like them. I do not get it.

As far as the fans..... the crazies are what makes it fun.

I thought the WW RC 2002 deal was out a line. At least he didnt wish injury on RC.

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8/20/2012 2:09 PM

I don't like Barcia. He comes across as a stereotypical yankee. Like his crap doesn't stink and he's so cocky in his interview. I would be a grand richer if I had a dollar for every time he said "I rode a smart race" yada yada yada. He comes across as wanting to be a hard ass like former racers. Like he's afraid to develop his own personality.

Racers that impress me are Tomac and Dungey. They're champions AND humble with their personality. The biggest factor for me deciding whether I like a rider is their off track personality and maybe some of the moves they make on the track. Dungey is one of the most respectable people to race against. And Tomac proved that he has to be provoked before he starts punting people off the track. Ask Deano. . .

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8/20/2012 3:15 PM

IWreckALot wrote:

I don't like Barcia. He comes across as a stereotypical yankee. Like his crap doesn't stink and he's so cocky in his interview. I would be a grand richer if I had a dollar for every time he said "I rode a smart race" yada yada yada. He comes across as wanting to be a hard ass like former racers. Like he's afraid to develop his own personality.

Racers that impress me are Tomac and Dungey. They're champions AND humble with their personality. The biggest factor for me deciding whether I like a rider is their off track personality and maybe some of the moves they make on the track. Dungey is one of the most respectable people to race against. And Tomac proved that he has to be provoked before he starts punting people off the track. Ask Deano. . .

I was called a "yankee" in 2001. I laughed then too...

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8/20/2012 3:23 PM

I hated Kent Howerton because he had the audacity to beat Hannah!

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8/20/2012 3:34 PM

Anyone who roots for a rider to get hurt is a d-bag and I hope they do that shit when I happen to be at the race. The only reason I start to dislike a rider is if they pull the SX only card. I'm a huge Dungey fan but was pulling hard for Bubba to wax ass this past weekend. Who the heck wants to see 30sec whupping every race?

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8/20/2012 3:36 PM

You can do nothing but laugh at all these guys that sign into a board and bitch about one rider or another, JS7 in particular. Every time his name is in the subject line, there's usually 3-5 pages about it. It's mainly guys bagging on his skills or his desire to ride but you know what? Every time he races, this board is buzzing the day after, good or bad results. Obviously there isn't a person on this board that didn't wish that they had his skills.

As for the question, I like to watch the struggling pros like Travis Baker and the Tedder Bros.. Anyone of the top 5-6 guys can win on any given day, it's just nice to see one of the lower tier riders crack the top 5 or 10 on occasion though.

And yes, there are some shit head pro's that have an attitude or, are just pure ungrateful of their abilities but, that’s their problem, not mine. Just a fan!

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8/20/2012 3:37 PM

Thats how I felt about Hannah for beating Marty Smith....But Hannah became one of my all time favorites.

Only two riders I dont like ...James Stewart and Josh Grant.


My favorite riders are Hannah,Carmichael and Canard.

I like Dungey,Poto,Reed, Alessi,Windham,short,KRoc,Tomac,Bogel and Baggett.

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8/20/2012 3:47 PM

I hate them all because they ride way faster than me.

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8/20/2012 3:53 PM

IWreckALot wrote:

I don't like Barcia. He comes across as a stereotypical yankee. Like his crap doesn't stink and he's so cocky in his interview. I would be a grand richer if I had a dollar for every time he said "I rode a smart race" yada yada yada. He comes across as wanting to be a hard ass like former racers. Like he's afraid to develop his own personality.

Racers that impress me are Tomac and Dungey. They're champions AND humble with their personality. The biggest factor for me deciding whether I like a rider is their off track personality and maybe some of the moves they make on the track. Dungey is one of the most respectable people to race against. And Tomac proved that he has to be provoked before he starts punting people off the track. Ask Deano. . .

My six year old son and I were stoked on Dungey in '09-'10, my son wanted to go watch him at Pala so I took him. I bought him a Dungey shirt at the race and we went into the pits afterwards to have him sign it. My son was one of six kids who waited outside the rig for two hours for him, when he did give autographs he didn't so much as look at or speak to one of them. The really awesome thing that came out of this was that Metty chose to hang out with those kids while they patiently waited. I'll cheer for him any day.

I like and respect everyone who lines up on the gate for our enjoyment. The thing is, they can do everything to please everyone then have one bad day where they alienate others. They are all human and prone to mistakes.

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8/20/2012 3:57 PM

IWreckALot wrote:

I don't like Barcia. He comes across as a stereotypical yankee. Like his crap doesn't stink and he's so cocky in his interview. I would be a grand richer if I had a dollar for every time he said "I rode a smart race" yada yada yada. He comes across as wanting to be a hard ass like former racers. Like he's afraid to develop his own personality.

Racers that impress me are Tomac and Dungey. They're champions AND humble with their personality. The biggest factor for me deciding whether I like a rider is their off track personality and maybe some of the moves they make on the track. Dungey is one of the most respectable people to race against. And Tomac proved that he has to be provoked before he starts punting people off the track. Ask Deano. . .

HA , that reminded me of the D-bag i saw on the way to work today driving a jacked up dodge with a big confederate flag flying off the back.

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8/20/2012 3:58 PM

lol.....it is stupid to hate a sports figure, your relationship is not intimate enough with them to bring on that emotion, unless you see an incident like Chris Brown on Rhinna, then you can hate their actions.. Even she has forgiven him! (just because she can sing some doesn't make her bright).

I was disappointed with RV for snubbing the hard core fans in the autograph line in TO, but I'll get over it in acouple of years. Another rider or team manager or even parent can hate another due to a tangible event or series of events. Fans, no. Dislike, sure.

I didn't like Barcia until I saw him handle himself in an autograph line. He might be a great guy to go fishing for the afternoon with, or a dick....you will never know.

Also, these people are racers, not necessarily good public speakers or writers (true dat!).

Like, dislike yes. Hate, love...no.


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8/20/2012 4:03 PM

hate is such a strong word! dont really hate any rider on the track except vince59, just because he dangerous to others.

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8/20/2012 4:05 PM

The only rider I can't stand is Vince Friese. When he stops racing like a jackass habitually I'll change my tune. There are others riders that I haven't liked some of their ACTIONS in the past, but everyone messes up and there aren't many (if any) truly bad people who throw a leg over a dirt bike. Motocross is good people.

As far as fanboyism and hating riders because they're fast and popular, I have a hard time understanding that as well. Just watch your motorcycle racing and cheer for who you want but hating riders you don't cheer for? C'mon.

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8/20/2012 4:20 PM

I don't hate any of the riders. There are some, especially 7 and 800, that I don't care about and, for me, it is easy to figure out why. Others, like 29, 17, 70, 38, and 5 are riders that I enjoy watching and following what they have done. Most of the riders are on the like side, some are not. Reed used to be one I did not care much about but now I do. Part of it is attitude and behavior. Guys like Lawrence and Hanson were never anybody I would root for. I'm older than almost all of you on this board and that is part of it. Like/don't like is just a personal thing. I like who I like cause I like em.

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8/20/2012 4:22 PM

I don't hate on any racers, but the Dallas Cowboys....

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8/20/2012 4:38 PM

IWreckALot wrote:

I don't like Barcia. He comes across as a stereotypical yankee. Like his crap doesn't stink and he's so cocky in his interview. I would be a grand richer if I had a dollar for every time he said "I rode a smart race" yada yada yada. He comes across as wanting to be a hard ass like former racers. Like he's afraid to develop his own personality.

Racers that impress me are Tomac and Dungey. They're champions AND humble with their personality. The biggest factor for me deciding whether I like a rider is their off track personality and maybe some of the moves they make on the track. Dungey is one of the most respectable people to race against. And Tomac proved that he has to be provoked before he starts punting people off the track. Ask Deano. . .

MR. X wrote:

HA , that reminded me of the D-bag i saw on the way to work today driving a jacked up dodge with a big confederate flag flying off the back.

Maybe the yankee comment was a bit over the top. I didn't mean to offend anyone. I just think Barcia comes across as cocky and not the personality I like. Having said that, I would never wish a rider to get injured and I want more competitive riders on the line. I imagine Barcia is completely different when the cameras aren't around. Probably a good kid and you can tell he trains hard. All I have to base my judgements on are what I see on TV and it doesn't seem like his greatest comes out then.

I'll go back to living my hick life butI don't drive around a big lifted dodge. It's a horse and the saddle has a confederate flag motif to it. Get it right next time!

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8/20/2012 4:39 PM

dcg141 wrote:

I don't hate on any racers, but the Dallas Cowboys....

Don't get me going on this. I try to root for the home team but there is just something too consistent over the last 10 years or so that needs to go. Initials are JJ. . .

Back on topic.

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8/20/2012 4:40 PM

I never understood how people can hate any pro rider... strange.

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8/20/2012 4:41 PM
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8/20/2012 4:52 PM

Harv_Mushman wrote:

I never understood how people can hate any pro rider... strange.

They are unhappy with themselves, its a reflection.

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8/20/2012 5:01 PM

P shut alot of people up with just the second post in this thread. Well played sir. Notice we don't see the extreme fanboys in here? He took their "excuse" and made fun of it...

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8/20/2012 5:14 PM

Hate is a strong word. I have never seen another poster say that they wish a professional rider was injured or had some life-altering bad luck in some way. But when did sports become so watered-down that fans can't have favorite riders with a dislike for their rivals without being labeled a "non-fan"?

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8/20/2012 5:27 PM

IWreckALot wrote:

I don't like Barcia. He comes across as a stereotypical yankee. Like his crap doesn't stink and he's so cocky in his interview. I would be a grand richer if I had a dollar for every time he said "I rode a smart race" yada yada yada. He comes across as wanting to be a hard ass like former racers. Like he's afraid to develop his own personality.

Racers that impress me are Tomac and Dungey. They're champions AND humble with their personality. The biggest factor for me deciding whether I like a rider is their off track personality and maybe some of the moves they make on the track. Dungey is one of the most respectable people to race against. And Tomac proved that he has to be provoked before he starts punting people off the track. Ask Deano. . .

MR. X wrote:

HA , that reminded me of the D-bag i saw on the way to work today driving a jacked up dodge with a big confederate flag flying off the back.

IWreckALot wrote:

Maybe the yankee comment was a bit over the top. I didn't mean to offend anyone. I just think Barcia comes across as cocky and not the personality I like. Having said that, I would never wish a rider to get injured and I want more competitive riders on the line. I imagine Barcia is completely different when the cameras aren't around. Probably a good kid and you can tell he trains hard. All I have to base my judgements on are what I see on TV and it doesn't seem like his greatest comes out then.

I'll go back to living my hick life butI don't drive around a big lifted dodge. It's a horse and the saddle has a confederate flag motif to it. Get it right next time!

Don't worry about it, most don't understand that northern/ southern thing has nothing to do with a Confederate flag. The redneck he mentioned with the flag in his truck in New York...that guy is a Yankee too, just a redneck at the same time.
So yea, Narcissus has a bit of that northern attitude, be it good or bad.

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8/20/2012 5:32 PM

Hot August Night wrote:

Hate is a strong word. I have never seen another poster say that they wish a professional rider was injured or had some life-altering bad luck in some way. But when did sports become so watered-down that fans can't have favorite riders with a dislike for their rivals without being labeled a "non-fan"?

Agree with this. I'm one of those who DISLIKES both #7 and #800, but not because I'm a racist or anti - Navy Seal. I just don't like uber-talented slackers and because Alessi always reminded me of Eddie Haskell. Of course I would never hope for injury to anyone. Hell, in Bubba's case, I'm praying for a healthy season next year so I can see him get beat straight up.

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8/20/2012 5:52 PM

Broc Glover. Ooohh, here comes the Golden Boy, with his shiny hair and Cali-tude! Stealing, yes stealing! the '77 125 title from one of my favorites Danny LaPorte. "Let Brock Bye" and the whole deal with Hannah, just so Mr. Sunshine could get the big trophy for those Yama-thieves over my beloved Team Suzuki! I'm still bitter!

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8/20/2012 6:07 PM

montesagold wrote:

Don't worry about it, most don't understand that northern/ southern thing has nothing to do with a Confederate flag. The redneck he mentioned with the flag in his truck in New York...that guy is a Yankee too, just a redneck at the same time.
So yea, Narcissus has a bit of that northern attitude, be it good or bad.

Hmmm.... so we all think our shit don't stink and have attitudes? Is that what you guys think of us "Yankees"?

I am really curious where this comes from.

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8/20/2012 6:37 PM
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The hating of riders came when the sport became NASCARized and the riders became commodities and not people. Before that everyone had favorite riders and riders they didnt care for, but I never heard anyone wish harm on a rider, we were fans of the SPORT first, and riders second because almost 100% of MX/SX fans rode and raced themselves. That is different now and you have too many that only have personal experience with watching the sport on TV. I would bet 99% of the "haters" on here are not riders at all, much less racers.

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8/20/2012 6:45 PM

lol @ hating riders

who the fuck cares??

barcia is a dick...js7 is a prima donna..chad reed a douche...guess what..pro athletes who get $$ are cocky assholes

KEEP WORKING, MILLIONS ON WELFARE DEPEND ON YOU!