Good soft to intermediate tire?

Related:
Create New Tag

yak651

Vital MX member yak651
622 yak651 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/622/avatar/c50_IMG_20160311_164232875_1458751890.jpg?1458751727 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/yak651,622/all 08/26/06 3 4 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/yak651,622/setup 74 2012 42 3

Posts: 2086

Joined: 8/26/2006

Location: Appleton, WI USA

2/14/2012 4:36 PM

Looking for tires that work good in sand/loam with some occasional hard pack. Hopefully something that will last a while. Any recommendations?

Mstock

Vital MX member Mstock
22485 Mstock http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/22485/avatar/c50_dream_on_800x536.jpg?1331008912 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Mstock,22485/all 09/14/10 26 2027 1

Posts: 2053

Joined: 9/14/2010

Location: Middleton, WI USA

2/14/2012 4:54 PM

Sand, Loam, and Hardpack........That LASTS? Bwwaaahhahhhhaaaaaaa

Sorry.

First of all good tires don't last. Cheap ones do. Good tires only work well in one type of soil. Cheap tires don't work well in any type of soil.

nytsmaC

Vital MX member nytsmaC
16448 nytsmaC http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/16448/avatar/c50_136313130_1287336398.jpg?1294192218 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/nytsmaC,16448/all 08/10/09 1 1 92 4259 6 2

Posts: 4351

Joined: 8/10/2009

Location: CAN

2/14/2012 5:25 PM

Pirelli Mid-Soft, if it's more intermediate than soft Bridgestone M403/404 is also good.

Cygnus

Vital MX member Cygnus
208 Cygnus http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/208/avatar/c50_96780460_1279248218.jpg?1294177122 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Cygnus,208/all 08/15/06 84 83 2 546 14090 44 9

Posts: 14636

Joined: 8/15/2006

Location: Hanover, CO USA

2/14/2012 5:33 PM

Racing? Trail riding? Practice at the track? It really depends on this.

well we ain't the smartest folks in the world...i mean we're fucking dirtbike riders for christ sakes.- BobbyM

If you chose not to decide you still have made a chioce.



yak651

Vital MX member yak651
622 yak651 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/622/avatar/c50_IMG_20160311_164232875_1458751890.jpg?1458751727 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/yak651,622/all 08/26/06 3 4 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/yak651,622/setup 74 2012 42 3

Posts: 2086

Joined: 8/26/2006

Location: Appleton, WI USA

2/14/2012 5:45 PM

Practice days at the track and occasional race. Any opinions on Dunlop 51? Do they still make the 756? Looking for front and rear

mx317

Vital MX member mx317
3927 mx317 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/3927/avatar/c50_rem4_1396312138.jpg?1396311362 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/mx317,3927/all 04/01/08 3 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/mx317,3927/setup 40 1571 2

Posts: 1611

Joined: 4/1/2008

Location: TN, USA

2/14/2012 5:48 PM

Bridgestone 403/404 combo

Take it to the limit, one more time!

Cygnus

Vital MX member Cygnus
208 Cygnus http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/208/avatar/c50_96780460_1279248218.jpg?1294177122 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Cygnus,208/all 08/15/06 84 83 2 546 14090 44 9

Posts: 14636

Joined: 8/15/2006

Location: Hanover, CO USA

2/14/2012 5:48 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/14/2012 5:52 PM

If you practice more than race I would have to say the Maxxis hold up really well and have decent grip. They aren't as predictable as a 756 but what is? The new dunlops suck. You should probably try some bridgestones and maybe race more.

well we ain't the smartest folks in the world...i mean we're fucking dirtbike riders for christ sakes.- BobbyM

If you chose not to decide you still have made a chioce.



NeWskoolmxer

Vital MX member NeWskoolmxer
17387 NeWskoolmxer http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/17387/avatar/c50_44537_windham_1999_wallpaper.jpg?1358730242 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/NeWskoolmxer,17387/all 10/12/09 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/NeWskoolmxer,17387/setup 26 1314 27

Posts: 1340

Joined: 10/12/2009

Location: Central, OH USA

2/14/2012 5:51 PM

I have MH3 Michelins and they kick the shit out of any terrain and Dunlops.

" To hell with them. When history is written they will be the sons of bitches - not I. "
Harry S. Truman

ricko

Vital MX member ricko
29497 ricko http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/29497/avatar/c50_Untitled_1449784992.jpg?1449784061 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/ricko,29497/all 09/06/11 13 375 2

Posts: 388

Joined: 9/6/2011

Location: Kersey, PA USA

2/14/2012 5:54 PM

Bridgestone 403/404. Love them.

roughneck

Vital MX member roughneck
18846 roughneck http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/18846/avatar/c50_1549265_528453770607893_1009221246_n_1411192084.jpg?1411191341 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/roughneck,18846/all 01/22/10 3 18 402 9 1

Posts: 420

Joined: 1/22/2010

Location: Jefferson, OR USA

2/14/2012 6:05 PM

Millville sticky..worked good on 80s..lol..450 might blow the knobs off... guy behind be thinking hes getting some rock roost...

For all your Graphics go to>>> www.ruskracing.com

VARNER>>>>>> www.varnermotorsports.com

geo309

Vital MX member geo309
11021 geo309 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/11021/avatar/c50_alex_10_25_2013_wildwood_1383009015.jpg?1383008978 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/geo309,11021/all 07/09/08 1 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/geo309,11021/setup 1 203 64

Posts: 204

Joined: 7/9/2008

Location: Bensalem, PA USA

2/14/2012 6:18 PM

NeWskoolmxer wrote:

I have MH3 Michelins and they kick the shit out of any terrain and Dunlops.

MH3 are great!!

Hman144

Vital MX member Hman144
2448 Hman144 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/2448/avatar/c50_2448_47615a879553c.jpg?1294180110 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Hman144,2448/all 12/04/07 6 7 85 1326 106 1

Posts: 1411

Joined: 12/4/2007

Location: York, PA USA

2/14/2012 6:24 PM

Have had excellent wear and great traction with the Michelins.

H

mx510

Vital MX member mx510
26288 mx510 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/26288/avatar/c50_image_1424970850.jpg?1424970494 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/mx510,26288/all 02/26/11 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/mx510,26288/setup 29 1222 5 1

Posts: 1251

Joined: 2/26/2011

Location: Gig Harbor, WA USA

2/14/2012 6:43 PM

I wouldnt recommend a Dunlop to anyone. While traction is good, they wear out probably twice as fast as any other tire out there. For the best traction/durability combo, you cant beat the Bridgestone 403/404 combo. The Maxxis IT is a good tire that will outlast anything else on the market.

Go Hawks!

Tbteam

Vital MX member Tbteam
372 Tbteam http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/372/avatar/c50_Bartow_065.jpg?1303758163 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Tbteam,372/all 08/16/06 1 38 3 181 1677 1 43 1

Posts: 1858

Joined: 8/16/2006

Location: Ormond Beach, FL USA

2/14/2012 7:31 PM

Michelin S-12's.

bullpen58

Vital MX member bullpen58
239 bullpen58 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/239/avatar/c50_80684860_1240028809.jpg?1294177182 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/bullpen58,239/all 08/15/06 14 17 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/bullpen58,239/setup 350 3865 61 7

Posts: 4215

Joined: 8/15/2006

Location: Fresno, CA USA

2/14/2012 9:46 PM

I used to run 756 front and rear religiously but now that they're gone (BAD move Dunlop), I run the MX31. The front isn't as good as the 756 but I swear the MX31 rear is better than the old 756. If you have a 450, get an MX31 with 120 width. Your cornering will thank me for it later.

#10v

Dirtysmile56

Vital MX member Dirtysmile56
396 Dirtysmile56 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/396/avatar/c50_patrick_scrub_1389063079.jpg?1389062210 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Dirtysmile56,396/all 08/16/06 7 80 1643 18 7

Posts: 1723

Joined: 8/16/2006

Location: Bend, OR USA

2/14/2012 9:51 PM

Michelin MH3 or MS3 hands down. Last long and hook up .

Patrick Trowbridge

Sheriff245

Vital MX member Sheriff245
24563 Sheriff245 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/24563/avatar/c50_100458070_1293060886.jpg?1294203524 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Sheriff245,24563/all 12/22/10 13 793 1 3

Posts: 806

Joined: 12/22/2010

Location: CAN

2/15/2012 3:58 AM

The Bridgestone 403/404 combo is great in intermediate to hard situations and not so good in softer dirt. I'd go with something else.

SwapperMX

Vital MX member SwapperMX
20807 SwapperMX http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/20807/avatar/c50_pingu_506_1396698637.jpg?1396698571 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/SwapperMX,20807/all 06/16/10 29 1971 8

Posts: 2000

Joined: 6/16/2010

Location: AUS

2/15/2012 4:11 AM

Everyone saying that the Michelin stuff is good, I will agree with you on the rears, as they do hook up pretty good and they do last, but the fronts are dreadful. Actually beyond dreadfull. Nytsmac knows where its at though. The Pirelli int/soft front is the best front tyre going round. I use the int/soft front with an int/hard rear, and get great grip and good life no matter the track conditions. New bags for race day every couple of weeks and you are good.

November 13th, Forever in our memories !!

ga_pike

Vital MX member ga_pike
28667 ga_pike http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/28667/avatar/c50_87_RM_80.jpg?1328058310 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/ga-pike,28667/all 07/14/11 2 16 72 1245 13 1

Posts: 1317

Joined: 7/14/2011

Location: Valdosta, GA USA

2/15/2012 4:52 AM

IRC iX-09W would meet what you are looking for. Always had very long life with IRC tires. Used to run the mud tires on everything with no issues.

http://www.irc-tire.com/mce/

CamP

Vital MX member CamP
323 CamP http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/323/avatar/c50_139826380_1291095094.jpg?1294177320 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/CamP,323/all 08/16/06 44 58 80 7062 19 11

Posts: 7142

Joined: 8/16/2006

Location: Colleyville, TX USA

2/15/2012 8:08 AM

Glad I still have one brand new 756 front tire left on the shelf. Nothing currently on the market works as well in soft-intermediate dirt.

Dunlop, please re-issue this tire!

tapkawiman

Vital MX member tapkawiman
4300 tapkawiman http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/4300/avatar/c50_imagesCAWNSMHM.jpg?1331765974 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/tapkawiman,4300/all 04/01/08 2 7 160

Posts: 167

Joined: 4/1/2008

Location: Neosho, MO USA

2/15/2012 8:13 AM

NeWskoolmxer wrote:

I have MH3 Michelins and they kick the shit out of any terrain and Dunlops.

I will second that by far the best soft/int tire out there.

Everybody wants to be number #1.........but ah.......when it comes time to doing it and making it happen they dont really really want it....
Ricky Carmichael

Camp332

Vital MX member Camp332
388 Camp332 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/388/avatar/c50_Staircase6_5_13_1_1370958403.jpg?1370957719 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Camp332,388/all 08/16/06 96 52 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Camp332,388/setup 122 6188 300 52

Posts: 6310

Joined: 8/16/2006

Location: Zoo Jersey, USA

2/15/2012 8:41 AM

Please elaborate on the Pirelli MX tires... Which models are good for soft/int moto conditions?

United States of America

Deetsmx

Vital MX member Deetsmx
9862 Deetsmx http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/9862/avatar/c50_92526550_1267809963.jpg?1294183443 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Deetsmx,9862/all 04/21/08 4 2 20 759

Posts: 779

Joined: 4/21/2008

Location: Visalia, CA USA

2/15/2012 8:53 AM

Camp332 wrote:

Please elaborate on the Pirelli MX tires... Which models are good for soft/int moto conditions?

The Scorpion 32 (used to be mt32) or whatever it's called now. Every person I've ever recommended that tire to says it's hands down the best tire they've ever tried. In sweepers (especially first turn ones) you just lay that thing over and pin it. If you look at the guys in Europe they run that tire at almost every single GP save for deep sand ones or hardpack ones. I think Everts ran that thing even on hardpack. From what I remember they run off the shelf units as well, not factory ones. I will say they wear quicker and the knobs will crack on the sidewall, but that tire is crazy good, especially for starts.

www.cheaptearoffs.com

Like us on facebook for weekly sx contests with prizes, discounts, and updates

Cheaptearoffs.com Facebook page

Camp332

Vital MX member Camp332
388 Camp332 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/388/avatar/c50_Staircase6_5_13_1_1370958403.jpg?1370957719 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Camp332,388/all 08/16/06 96 52 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Camp332,388/setup 122 6188 300 52

Posts: 6310

Joined: 8/16/2006

Location: Zoo Jersey, USA

2/15/2012 10:53 AM

Camp332 wrote:

Please elaborate on the Pirelli MX tires... Which models are good for soft/int moto conditions?

Deetsmx wrote:

The Scorpion 32 (used to be mt32) or whatever it's called now. Every person I've ever recommended that tire to says it's hands down the best tire they've ever tried. In sweepers (especially first turn ones) you just lay that thing over and pin it. If you look at the guys in Europe they run that tire at almost every single GP save for deep sand ones or hardpack ones. I think Everts ran that thing even on hardpack. From what I remember they run off the shelf units as well, not factory ones. I will say they wear quicker and the knobs will crack on the sidewall, but that tire is crazy good, especially for starts.

Thanks, Deets bro!

United States of America

Camp332

Vital MX member Camp332
388 Camp332 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/388/avatar/c50_Staircase6_5_13_1_1370958403.jpg?1370957719 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Camp332,388/all 08/16/06 96 52 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Camp332,388/setup 122 6188 300 52

Posts: 6310

Joined: 8/16/2006

Location: Zoo Jersey, USA

2/15/2012 1:20 PM

Camp332 wrote:

Please elaborate on the Pirelli MX tires... Which models are good for soft/int moto conditions?

Deetsmx wrote:

The Scorpion 32 (used to be mt32) or whatever it's called now. Every person I've ever recommended that tire to says it's hands down the best tire they've ever tried. In sweepers (especially first turn ones) you just lay that thing over and pin it. If you look at the guys in Europe they run that tire at almost every single GP save for deep sand ones or hardpack ones. I think Everts ran that thing even on hardpack. From what I remember they run off the shelf units as well, not factory ones. I will say they wear quicker and the knobs will crack on the sidewall, but that tire is crazy good, especially for starts.

Just ordered a set. Front and rear for $130.

United States of America

Deetsmx

Vital MX member Deetsmx
9862 Deetsmx http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/9862/avatar/c50_92526550_1267809963.jpg?1294183443 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Deetsmx,9862/all 04/21/08 4 2 20 759

Posts: 779

Joined: 4/21/2008

Location: Visalia, CA USA

2/15/2012 1:23 PM

Camp332 wrote:

Just ordered a set. Front and rear for $130.

Cool, I'm interested to hear what you think. I don't have much experience with the front (I always ran a 756), but I ran that rear for many years. Seems like a good price too, where did you order?

www.cheaptearoffs.com

Like us on facebook for weekly sx contests with prizes, discounts, and updates

Cheaptearoffs.com Facebook page

Camp332

Vital MX member Camp332
388 Camp332 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/388/avatar/c50_Staircase6_5_13_1_1370958403.jpg?1370957719 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Camp332,388/all 08/16/06 96 52 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Camp332,388/setup 122 6188 300 52

Posts: 6310

Joined: 8/16/2006

Location: Zoo Jersey, USA

2/15/2012 1:26 PM

Deetsmx wrote:

The Scorpion 32 (used to be mt32) or whatever it's called now. Every person I've ever recommended that tire to says it's hands down the best tire they've ever tried. In sweepers (especially first turn ones) you just lay that thing over and pin it. If you look at the guys in Europe they run that tire at almost every single GP save for deep sand ones or hardpack ones. I think Everts ran that thing even on hardpack. From what I remember they run off the shelf units as well, not factory ones. I will say they wear quicker and the knobs will crack on the sidewall, but that tire is crazy good, especially for starts.

Camp332 wrote:

Just ordered a set. Front and rear for $130.

Deetsmx wrote:

Cool, I'm interested to hear what you think. I don't have much experience with the front (I always ran a 756), but I ran that rear for many years. Seems like a good price too, where did you order?

I'll keep ya posted.

I ordered through mxxponsor. Pirelli offered a "sponsorship" or what I call "the weekend warrior discount hook-up", so I took the opportunity.

United States of America

U3

Vital MX member U3
29551 U3 /images/default/avatar/c50.png http://www.vitalmx.com/community/U3,29551/all 09/09/11 1 57

Posts: 58

Joined: 9/9/2011

Location: DEU

2/15/2012 1:40 PM

The Pirellis are really really good! I run them almost everywhere for many years, on raceday even on the concrete like tracks. They're a dream, front and rear. They do wear a little quicker, the knobs then start to break. But the hookup everywhere is great!

MH3 and MS3 are really good also with unbelievable wear resistance, but for the soft/mid I recommend the Pirellis.

Honestly, I only have those 2 kind of tires but will give the 403/404 a shot this year...


Greetings from Germany

Camp332

Vital MX member Camp332
388 Camp332 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/388/avatar/c50_Staircase6_5_13_1_1370958403.jpg?1370957719 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Camp332,388/all 08/16/06 96 52 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Camp332,388/setup 122 6188 300 52

Posts: 6310

Joined: 8/16/2006

Location: Zoo Jersey, USA

2/15/2012 1:47 PM

I've always been a Dunlop(756 now MX51) guy. Never tried anything else.

The 756's wear down quickly. MX51 lasts a little bit longer than the 756. Do the Pirellis have the same wear time as the 756's?

United States of America

Kryan5

Vital MX member Kryan5
26153 Kryan5 http://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/26153/avatar/c50_63144417_callahans_11_8_1_6_1450809506.jpg?1450808915 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Kryan5,26153/all 02/17/11 1 22 http://www.vitalmx.com/community/Kryan5,26153/setup 67 584 28

Posts: 651

Joined: 2/17/2011

Location: Etters, PA USA

2/15/2012 1:48 PM

I run the "horrible" mx51 and I like them. They do wear quick, but that is part of the game. Probably not the best for trail riding though, because the nobbies tend to rip off on that stuff. I think they work good-great for track riding though. You can really tell when the tire goes away by the handling and as soon as you put a new shoe on(costly i know) you love them again. I do agree l like the 756 better, but what are you gonna do...