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robkinuk
7/23/2014 4:35am
7/23/2014 4:35am
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7/23/2014 2:13pm
Check out this photo of British MX2 Champion Elliot Banks Browne's back and he had a fall practising and got landed on trapped under bikes rear wheel with throttle pinned.
A very painful lesson to always suit up and wear son form of back/chest protector!
A very painful lesson to always suit up and wear son form of back/chest protector!
The Shop
How about, even though YOU don't go fast enough to get a concussion (lamest excuse EVER btw) the guy that is going to potentially LAND on you can give you one? Or the guy that is going to run into you when you are down could also. If you trail ride, a tree could do it at 3 mph....
You preach safety, safety safety and then you post something like this? hypocrisy at its finest. I thought it was funny and figured I would call you out. No biggie, It's all in fun and bench racing.
Regarding my comment . don't go fast enough to get a concussion" I guess my "need a sun dial to take my lap times" comment wasn't enough of a clue that I was being self deprecating with the "don't go fast enough" comment.
To each their own. Just an observation. Settle down post patrol.
The guy simply stated he didn't think he went fast enough to need a $700+ helmet
He didn't say that he goes too slow to need a helmet AT ALL.
So, the conversation regarding chest protector vs none, isn't close to the same thing. Not to mention chest protectors are cheap: he could get a bell Moto 9, a chest protector, and then put money towards knee braces before he could buy a 6D...
Just my .02
It's the same exact argument as a chest protector. Are you going to protect yourself to the best of your ability or not?
I guess, because I am not that fast, I should get only a soft roost deflector, I mean..... I am not going to hit the ground that hard, right?
Your second paragraph is purely your opinion RE: exact same argument as a chest protector not a statement of fact. How about you buy your 6D and let me buy what I want to but again I will be happy to send you my address for the $300.
I interviewed the Snell Foundation twice for MXA and learned a lot about helmets, helmet testing and concussions. I am of the opinion I can get a "good" helmet without spending the money for a 6D. That having been said maybe by the time I am ready for a new helmet I will have the funds for a 6D but I stopped buying things I couldn't really afford a few years ago so please send me that $300.....or better yet contribute it to burrito for his hospital bed.
Pit Row
Part of that equation is economics. Sorry, this is the real world where we have to buy our own gear.
I teach the MSF Dirt Bike School, and we always tell our students to wear as much protection as they can afford.
One could buy a handful of chest protectors for the price difference in a good helmet and a 6D. For many, that will be money better spent.
I have a full coverage chest protector that has tire marks on it like the ones on Browne's back. That's a better advert in my book.
I found your reasoning (Don't go fast enough and money) funny, especially coming from you and your OPINIONS on safety you preach.
you said "I don't race for a living (and can sit out a concussion no problem) not sure I need the concussion protection of the 6D"
So, with that statement you believe the 6D offers superior concussion protection but you can live with out it.
You then said
"probability of a concussion versus the extra dollars for a 6D doesn't warrant me springing for it. Now if I was a LL hopeful or a MXGP hopeful I would absolutely wear one no ifs ands buts about it."
It is funny to read your posts about a product that you feel is superior and offers more protection (by what you have posted, not me) but use your speed and money as reasons to not get it.
I see absolutely no reason for you to call on me to send you $300, where that fits this conversation baffles me.
As far as Burrito. Send me a link. I will be glad to donate for his bed. He was a cool cat and I will for sure help right away.
Fortunately for my brother, he was wearing one of these:
And got up and walked away without so much as a scratch.
This is what the back of his Titan chest pro looked like (from the foot peg of the rider that hit him square in the back:
At the end of the day, his back would have likely looked something like the pic in the OP...possibly worse if that foot peg had hit flesh rather than hard plastic.
EVERYONE was amazed that he got up and finished the moto...without the protection he wouldn't have.
I am sorry my attempt at self deprecating humor regarding my speed versus protection fell flat. After having been riding MX bikes for over 40 years I am aware that you don't have to be going fast to get a concussion or hurt. I also know a Mercedes like the 6D offers superior protection but economic reality is something else I know.
The reason I am calling on you to send $300 is this is roughly the difference between what I was going to spend on my next helmet and the 6D and I hope this unbaffles you.
Regarding burrito check the main page in just a moment. Thanks for stepping up and I think you are cool cat for doing that.
Peace.
In all seriousness thanks for sharing that as it is just another example of how much more protection chest/back protectors afford than a cotton jersey.
In all honesty, I like your stance on safety. I hold you in a higher regard on here for what you have preached and your "buckled down" approach to chest protectors vs. comfort or fashion. I agree with you 100%
I'll be at the track with my ugly black chest protector and brand new Shoei.
Burrito Donation DONE! thanks for the heads up
prozach-This isn't the 70s anymore when we were racing on basically scrambles courses with a jump or two.The only reason I care is I love the sport and want to see it not go away. IMHO we can't afford unnecessary injuries since in too many cases people don't return to racing after a serious crash with injuries. Given the costs of bikes, entry fees, gas, etc there are enough challenges that threaten the longevity of our sport.
Given we can't make this great sport safe doesn't mean we can't make it safer and personally I think people who wear only jerseys are gambling with their future of riding MX bikes every time they swing a leg over a bike unprotected.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
I do wear chest/back protection but I'm to old not to.
Obviously, this is the perfect storm of situations that I brought up, but you get the idea that it's certainly not impossible.
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