Global Motocross Championship?

Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 11:22pm
Bombshell - big changes coming to the world of motocross and supercross in 2011

Is this the start of a true world supercross and world motocross series where all the top riders will battle each other all year long???

Motocross Strategic Committee - FIM, Youthstream and MSMA meet in Mies

A meeting between the Motorcycle Sport Manufacturers’ Association (MSMA) - its representatives of the Japanese and European motorcycle industry Messrs Luigi Dall'Igna and Ampelio Macchi (Aprilia), Roger Harvey (Honda), Martino Bianchi and Pierluigi Zampieri (Husqvarna), Winfried Kerschhaggl (KTM), Sylvain Geboers (Suzuki), the FIM Motocross World Championships Promoter Youthstream - Mr Giuseppe Luongo - and FIM officials Messrs Wolfgang Srb, President of the CMS Commission, Jean-Pierre Mougin Chairman of the Steering Committee for reduction of the sound levels in Motocross and Enduro, Oriol Puig Bulto, President of the CTI, Charles Hennekam and Dirk De Neve - was held on 20 October at the FIM Headquarters in Mies (Switzerland).

Mr Mougin chaired the first part of the meeting which concerned the reduction of sound levels in Motocross and Enduro. He made a presentation and answered relevant questions of the representatives of the manufacturers on the "2 meter Max" sound testing method which would be implemented in the FIM MX1, MX2, MX3 and Women's Motocross FIM World Championships, FIM Motocross of Nations and FIM Veteran Motocross World Cup as of 2010.

Mr Srb chaired the second part of the meeting which dealt with the technical development of the FIM Motocross and SuperMoto World Championships and measures to keep the sport affordable, in particular for young riders, which is a priority to the CMS.

Following the wish of FIM President Mr Vito Ippolito, to gather the top riders of the "AMA Supercross, an FIM World Championship" and the FIM Motocross World Championships to participate in both Championships and with the tremendous success of the recent FIM Motocross of Nations, Mr Luongo presented his views on future development of the sport.

The FIM Motocross World Championships should start mid-May – after the end of the "AMA Supercross, an FIM World Championship" – and finish by the end of October.
This FIM Motocross Championship would visit all continents and be run at venues with a top infrastructure. By doing so, it would be possible for riders and teams to enter both Championships, attract more sponsors, increase TV coverage, develop the sport even more and bring the best riders from both Championships to the fans worldwide.

YouthStream would start rolling out this project in 2011 and it would become fully operational in 2014. The next meeting of the Motocross Strategic Committee will be held at the beginning of the 2010 Motocross season.

Source: Supercross.com
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It wont succeed, just not going to happen.
10/25/2009 6:05am
think it depends on what the cost is.

But if you see, James Stewart wont even race 17 events in the us. he wont be bothered with racing 35 events in 10 months, whilst cutting in his time to prepare for SX.

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10/25/2009 6:21am
I'd be stoked to see something like that, but, my understanding is that SX pulls in more money than all other MX series put together, and the notion that riders are going to do 17 SX rounds and then compete all over the world in outdoor is just unworkable. If they want to do a true world championship outdoor, then they have something there - start it in April, do 20 rounds or something like that all over the world, and finish just before the MXDN, but the riders won't be riding SX. The only other alternative is to drastically shorten SX, but why would you shorten the series that brings in all the money?

I'm no insider, maybe the financials of SX aren't as attractive as I think, but the bottom line is you're not going to tack a world outdoor series on the back of a 17 round SX series. The riders are beat down enough as it is.
10/25/2009 9:03am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:55am
It's just another effort for Youthstream to slow the grand exodus of GP riders to the AMA Nationals.

How is Youthstream USA doing anyways? Or was it just another press release that went nowhere like this one?

And could you imagine Ken DeDyker doing a 17 round SX series?

10/25/2009 9:24am
Ken De Dycker doesnt feel bumps.
Bumps become flat track when they see him comingGrinning
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I think anyone making the move to america to race SX would have to settle there at least temporarily to do that series. If they then wanted to race GPs theyd presumably have to settle in Europe for the summer and all with the cost of having two mortgages etc etc etc. For that to be feasable the GP contracts would need to be substantially higher than the ones offered in the outdoor nationals. Untill that day, anyone moving to the states to race SX is gonna be destined to race the Nationals.

I think the beginning of that press is of much greater consequence. Sound limits and reductions in the costs of racing. Definateley two of the biggest concerns for the sport right now. The stuff about competing in two series I'm not sure will ever come to anything.
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I can see American riders doing the event on their continent, just as Japanese riders probably wouldn´t do races away from Japan. So in essence - this would be a 2nd rate championship with champs like Nick Wey, or Julien Bill. And then the press releases from Youthstream would smell like 2003 all over again with the "world supercross championship". The eventual champ would probably finish 15th or so in the North American races, 10th in Europe and so on, but he would gather enough points to win overall, which basically means he payed more for flight tickets and borrowed bikes than his richer brothers in his respective series. I like the idea, and perhaps some of the races (probably the American ones) will be good. But the rest will suck. Riders today are spoiled and with the teams struggeling as is, they won´t spend money on international races. Sad but true

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10/25/2009 9:52am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:56am
Dear Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen,

>

> This e-mail is to resume yesterday’s Motocross Strategic Committee

> meeting discussing the future evolution of Motocross at the FIM Head

> Quarters in Mies. FIM, Manufacturers and Youthstream were present.

>

> After the very successful Red Bull FIM Motocross of Nations in

> Franciacorta, my first thought was how to make the FIM Motocross World

> Championship as successful as the FIM MXON, and we came to the

> conclusion the main factors are:

>

> Promotion

> Infrastructure

> Quality of the participants

> World wide coverage

> Exclusivity

>

> Keeping all this in mind it brought me back to the FIM President, Vito

> Ippolito’s, desire to have the FIM Motocross World Championship start

> after the last round of the FIM Supercross World Championship, giving

> the possibilities to all the world’s best riders to participate in the

> FIM Supercross World Championship and

> then to participate in the FIM Motocross World Championship.

> Putting these ingredients together, we see that it will be possible to

> have the 16 FIM Motocross Grand Prix events with the same notoriety,

> quality and coverage as the FIM Motocross of Nations.

>

> Yesterday’s discussion was very interesting and very positive, all

> present agreed on the principle of developing Motocross and on the

> great potential our sport can have if we can increase the

> possibilities of some top riders from the FIM Supercross World

> Championship to take part in the FIM Motocross World Championship

> (and vice versa). To arrive to this we have to overcome some

> obstacles created by some who ‘defend their small gardens’, but if we

> all keep in mind the most important for the whole Motocross world is

> the overall success of Motocross then we will surely get there and the

> FIM Motocross World Championship will be huge:

>

> 16 Grand Prix events covering the entire globe.

> GPs with more than 50,000 spectators.

> Fantastic venues with top infrastructures welcoming teams,

> manufacturers, media and fans.

> Live world wide TV and internet coverage.

>

> We will need some time, support and the participation of everyone.

>

> Starting from 2011 (and to be accomplished by 2014), our proposal is

> the following:

>

> The FIM Motocross World Championship will start in the middle of May

> (instead of the first weekend of April) and it will finish at the end

> of October (instead of the middle of September).

> We will diminish the number of European GPs and concentrate only on

> the elite venues. Also we will preview only one event in a

> geographical area (example: up until today we had 3 Grand Prix events

> in the Benelux, in the future there will be one).

> The GPs will follow the good weather (example: the FIM Motocross World

> Championship will start in Europe, then we will go to the warm areas).

> The whole world will be covered with 9 events in Europe, 2 in North

> America, 2 in Asia, 1 Australia, 1 in Brazil and 1 in South Africa).

> All the top World Motocross riders will be able to participate in the

> FIM World Supercross Championship and all the top World Supercross

> riders will be able to participate in the FIM World Motocross

> Championship.

> The FIM Motocross of Nations will remain at the end of September and

> will continue with it’s exclusivity where riders race for their

> country. We plan to return to the USA with the MXON every 3 or 4

> years, and we plan to bring it to Australia, Asia and other

> continents, and naturally to Europe.

> With this project, manufacturers will have the possibility to have

> riders who can participate in the FIM Supercross World Championship

> with their US teams and the same riders can participate in the FIM

> Motocross World Championship with their European (or other

> continental) teams.

> Every event will be broadcasted live on TV and internet permitting the

> whole world to follow the Championship live. (For the MXON there were

> 328,000 American fans who watched the event live on internet, and in

> addition there was 40,000 Brazilian and 30,000 Canadian).

> We plan to continue to develop the FIM MX3 World Championship and

> European Championships to permit riders who don’t have the finance or

> possibilities to participate to the FIM MX1/MX2 World Championship, to

> be able to participate in a serious and well organized Championship.

>

> To make this happen we have to concentrate on the quality of riders,

> the promotion, the media and the fans, and on bringing all these

> components together. Imagine if the MotoGP or Formula 1

> riders/drivers were divided into 2 where the riders/drivers

> participated to 2 different championships, for sure the value would be

> divided by not only by 2 but maybe even by 10.

>

> This is of course not compulsory for riders and/or manufacturers –

> nothing is compulsory, we are in a free world. We are just creating a

> platform where we believe it will be very interesting and important

> for participants to be. Surely there will be some riders who will

> decide to participate in only the FIM Supercross World Championship or

> only the FIM Motocross World Championship due to their characteristics

> or desire, and this is entirely normal.

>

> This global plan will offer more possibilities to teams and riders to

> find more and important sponsors from a world wide market.

>

> We would like to see events in the following regions:

>

> 1 on the Iberia Peninsula (Spain/Portugal)

> 1 in France

> 1 in the United Kingdom

> 1 in Benelux

> 1 in Italy

> 1 in Germany

> 1 in the Scandinavia

> 1 in the Balkan region

> 1 in the Central/ East Europe

>

> 2 in the United States of America

> 1 in Australia

> 1 in South Africa

> 1 in Brazil

> 1 in Indonesia

> 1 in India / Thailand / Japan

>

> We could start with 13 Grand Prix event in 2011:

> 10 in Europe

> 1 in Brazil

> 1 in Indonesia

> 1 in USA

> + MXON in France

>

> Then 14 Grand Prix events in 2012

> 10 in Europe

> 1 in Brazil

> 1 in Indonesia

> 1 in USA

> 1 in Australia

> + MXON in Belgium

>

> Then 15 Grand Prix events in 2013

> 10 in Europe

> 1 in Brazil

> 1 in Indonesia

> 1 in USA

> 1 in Australia

> 1 in South Africa

> + MXON in Germany

>

> Then the full programme from 2014.

>

> Clearly the MXGP events will be brought to big motorcycle markets, to

> growing economical markets, where sponsors and manufacturers are

> interested, and naturally where fans follow our sport. To reach this

> we will surely need at least 4 years starting from 2011.

>

> We do not imagine having 40 riders per class travelling to all events,

> but it’s essential to have the top 20/25 travelling to all rounds and

> local wild card riders will complete the gate (as we do with our

> current overseas Grand Prix events, like in Brazil this year which was

> a great success in all aspects).

>

> We ask everyone to just close their eyes for a moment and imagine the

> FIM Motocross World Championship with every round like Franciacorta.

> Imagine the starting grid with Cairoli, Philippaerts, Reed, Stewart,

> Dungey, Tedesco, Short, Christophe Pourcel, Sébastien Pourcel,

> Rattray, de Dycker, Barragan, Desalle, Strijbos, Musquin, Goncalves,

> Paulin, Roczen, Guarneri, Frossard, Nagle, Coppins, Leok, Ramon,

> Grant, Villopoto, Alessi, Searle, Weimar..........

>

> If you want it, if FIM wants it, if the manufacturers want it, this is

> possible!

>

> We are able to bring this into reality, maybe some can say we dream

> too much, but if you can dream it, you can do it! And, yes, we can!

>

> If Motocross has seen so much development up until today, if we have

> many multi-national partners, it’s because we had already dreamed of

> it!

>

> We trust in you support and please do not hesitate to contact us for

> any questions about this.

>

> Kind regards,

>

> Giuseppe Luongo.
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The GPs have already raced in all those countries, Supercross and racing only in america will always be the American way. I dont think this proposal will change that. It should be kept as it is let riders qualify and give them prize money.
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10/25/2009 10:13am
Yeah he couldn't of picked a worse time to try and set this up. I am sure teams and manufacturers will want to pony up for this.
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Let me guess, no prize money for the riders?
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10/25/2009 10:51am
Theres no doubt about it. For the sport of motocross to have its maximum appeal it needs to have a single global series. There are so many different obstacles that will stop this ever happening. By ending the SX series befor the GPs begin it removes just one of these obstacles.
10/25/2009 10:56am
Might fly if they changed the location of the rounds to this:

2014 Start the World Chapionship Series

10 in United States
1 in Brazil
1 in Europe
1 in Spain
1 in Indonesia
1 in South Africa
1 in Australia
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This would be great if it happend 5yrs ago the teams had some $$$ to work with, in todays economy and the fact that it's not looking to much better for next yr how are the teams,(US and abroad) going to afford to support a world championship series! Ive got friends that are letting the repo guys come pick up there bikes! Where will the teams get the $$ from?
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10/25/2009 11:56am
He's an idiot if he thinks riders are going to race 17 SX events and then traipse all over the world racing 16 GPs, only 2 of which would be in the US. It's on the outside edge of human endurance to race 17 SXs and 12 Nationals, and the travel isn't half as bad as it would be overseas. 33 races and THEN the MXDN and US Open? Good luck with that plan, Wolfgang.

I'd love to see a global MX series, but trying to start it after the SX series and assume the SX riders are going to participate shows breathtaking ignorance.
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10/25/2009 12:00pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:56am
" To arrive to this we have to overcome some

> obstacles created by some who ‘defend their small gardens’,"



i wonder who he was talking about ....
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Might fly if they changed the location of the rounds to this: 2014 Start the World Chapionship Series 10 in United States 1 in Brazil 1...
Might fly if they changed the location of the rounds to this:

2014 Start the World Chapionship Series

10 in United States
1 in Brazil
1 in Europe
1 in Spain
1 in Indonesia
1 in South Africa
1 in Australia
The last time i checked, Spain was still in Europe.....
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10/25/2009 12:11pm
Sounds like someone has plans of pushing out MX Sports

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10/25/2009 12:21pm
GL needs to put the pipe down.
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flarider wrote:
Sounds like someone has plans of pushing out MX Sports

LOL well I am afraid they will have to have a much bigger push to do that. It's funny how all those folks think the can "include" USA with one round and figure that will work out.

Lets not forget that over 60% of all the dirt bikes and ATV"s are sold here in the US, so this plan is good humor at best.

then can call it what ever they want, (polish a turd, still a turd).
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10/25/2009 2:12pm
eddie wrote:
[i][b]" To arrive to this we have to overcome some > obstacles created by some who ‘defend their small gardens’,"[/b][/i] i wonder who he was talking...
" To arrive to this we have to overcome some

> obstacles created by some who ‘defend their small gardens’,"



i wonder who he was talking about ....
I wouldn't call the US a small garden and if he thinks anyone with a small garden is going to give it up for his "greater good" then he is an idiot. Does this guy have little Napoleon syndrome? I will take over the world........mmmmmmmuuuuuuaaaaaaaaahhhhhaaaahhhaahhhaaahhhaaaaaaa.
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10/25/2009 2:34pm
flarider wrote:
Sounds like someone has plans of pushing out MX Sports

Sounds like the Cold war is starting all over again.

One thing the Sport does not need in this economic climate is YS and MXsports waring with each other.

The Supercross deal is just a continuation of the fallout from the Jam Sports AMA fiasco.

When will it ever end ?
10/25/2009 2:46pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:56am
We do not imagine having 40 riders per class travelling to all events,

> but it’s essential to have the top 20/25 travelling to all rounds and

> local wild card riders will complete the gate (as we do with our

> current overseas Grand Prix events, like in Brazil this year which was

> a great success in all aspects
).

Yes, lapped until 18th place or so is a good thing!

5 in USA
5 in Europe
4 around the world would be a much better spread, and of course raced in demographic order.
Start in Oz, then go west (less jetlag if i remember)

Give prize money and have some sort of travel expense plan for riders who commit to doing the whole series.

Even so, it's hard to realize.
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10/25/2009 5:28pm
This post should read

So and So makes desperate attemp to discredit American Motocross.
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brakkeman_ wrote:
We do not imagine having 40 riders per class travelling to all events, > but it’s essential to have the top 20/25 travelling to all rounds...
We do not imagine having 40 riders per class travelling to all events,

> but it’s essential to have the top 20/25 travelling to all rounds and

> local wild card riders will complete the gate (as we do with our

> current overseas Grand Prix events, like in Brazil this year which was

> a great success in all aspects
).

Yes, lapped until 18th place or so is a good thing!

5 in USA
5 in Europe
4 around the world would be a much better spread, and of course raced in demographic order.
Start in Oz, then go west (less jetlag if i remember)

Give prize money and have some sort of travel expense plan for riders who commit to doing the whole series.

Even so, it's hard to realize.
Top 20? In each class? The guy is on drugs, unless he has some massive pot of money stashed out there somewhere. That would require all the big teams in the US, most of which have sponsors that aren't trying to sell anything in Brazil and have no interest in representation there.

Yeah, if he paid the teams a few million each, and paid the riders a million each, and paid for all the transportation...About $100 million ought to do it.
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10/25/2009 6:42pm
You do know that a World MX Championship can still be successful without Americans in it?

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flarider wrote:
Sounds like someone has plans of pushing out MX Sports

500guy wrote:
Sounds like the Cold war is starting all over again. One thing the Sport does not need in this economic climate is YS and MXsports waring...
Sounds like the Cold war is starting all over again.

One thing the Sport does not need in this economic climate is YS and MXsports waring with each other.

The Supercross deal is just a continuation of the fallout from the Jam Sports AMA fiasco.

When will it ever end ?
I can understand you saying that if someone was to alter the callendars so they overlapped but to alter the callendars so they dont overlap sureley just gives riders more options, that can only be a good thing. I can think of a couple of GP riders who would try do SX if the callendar allowed.

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