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I'm starting to become a firm believer that the GP riders are much more talented and faster than our guys state side. Ferrandis came right over and has been battling up front, they smoked RV, the fastest guy we've had in years and they've been whooping our ass at MXDN. I feel like if they sent over their top 5 riders, Tomac may finish off the podium. Am I the only one thinking this?
The Shop
And his fastest lap was 6 ish seconds faster then 2nd place.
And we haven't been getting smoked at the nations. Go watch them again..
The AMA 250 class is DEEP. Soo many good guys, the mx2 class is not the greatest tho.
combine the talent in box classes and AMA has way more guys
Moose can just beat the best here 4 motos in a row........
Eli coming from wayyyyy behind to crash out.
Sure we sucked one or 2 years but we aren't getting smoked. Sending B teams and still fightin for the win
Pit Row
When our guys race theirs on their soil and tracks it's tough. When they come here to race on our soil it's nearly impossible for them to win against our best.
If we're going AMA vs GP who do you think would win: Tomac, Musquin, Anderson, Osborne and Baggett vs. Cairoli, Herlings, Gajser, Jonass and Desalle?
If it's being held anywhere in the USA I would say the AMA. Anywhere across the pond I say the GP guys.
Now go back to last year and the AMA has Tomac, Dungey, Roczen, Musquin and Webb they would have won absolutely anywhere in the world minus maybe a sand track.
The USA holds the most victories in the event with 22 (of 70 events).
If you go back to 2005, the average US finish is 1.6. In that same time period, Belgium's average finish is 2.75 and France 3.
If we look at results starting since 2010, US average finish 2.14, Belgium 2.71, and France 3.28.
Since 2000, the US is the only team to finish top 3 in every year they competed. Let's not forget the 13 year winning streak starting in 1981.
I'd dig up more but I think this is enough for most people to draw a conclusion.
Alternative fact?
Time practice
Pos 1. Van Horebeek: 2:04.324
Pos 2. Tomac: 2:04.418
Qualifying race
Pos 1. Febvre: 2:07.930
Pos 6. Tomac: 2:09.818
Moto 1
Pos 1. Tomac: 2:07.621
Pos 2. Cairoli: 2:09.037
Moto 2
Pos 1. Tomac: 2:08.662
Pos 2. Cairoli: 2:11.180
Given that you have all this information at your fingertips, please post the gap between first and second at the end of each Moto.
The American riders know that Supercross is what will get them a big contract so that's what they concentrate on. It would be interesting if the race had Supercross on Saturday and Motocross on Sunday.
It would take a top American prospect a few years to adjust to all that and expect to be competitive. I don't really think it was reasonable to expect RV to go straight over there and compete. RV and his wife were on an extended vacation. He wasn't there to dominate.
Here's an argument that's worthy of discussion: it's easier for a European to come over here and assimilate to American professional racing and have a chance at succeeding than it is for an American to go to Europe and experience the same.
Broadening the way you evaluate and judge top professional motocross racers to include the gazillion other factors that go into being successful beyond talent on a bike may eventually make this stupid fucking argument go away forever, along with world peace and a cure for cancer, so I'm not holding my breath.
This age-old argument of who is better or not is stupid, and old. They are all badasses.
In the US, the riders put a lot of focus on the indoor clown show because that's where the money is for them.
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