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Only $10 for all 2024 SX, MX, and SMX series (regularly $30).
KTM 450 SXF $8799.00
KTM 250 SX $6699.00
I can race the whole year, rebuild my top end, and run a new set of new Dunlops with the extra 2 grand easily.
The 2010 KTM is for sale. $4500 will take it home, very clean.
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Ah, I see what you guys have been smokin'...
(Today at A Day In The Dirt)
There would be more of a used FOOPER market, and maybe less of an "At cost or below!" LEFTOVER FOOPER market, if the unreliable used FOOPERS didn't regularly shit the bed on so many people... People don't buy them used much because they've learned the hard way and they know better. We two stroke fans can traffic in used machinery because we're dealing with superior machinery. I know that fact is frustrating to someone who's in the middle of his term on a FOOPER loan, but that's just too bad.
If you want a bike that needs an hour meter, great..... Good for you!
In common parlance, "devolution", "de-evolution", or backward evolution is the notion that a species can change into a more "primitive" form. It is associated with the idea that evolution is supposed to make species more advanced, and that some modern species have lost functions or complexity and seem to be degenerate forms of their ancestors.
That would be you and your valve munching, overweight, over-priced, under-reliable four-stroke.
In thirty years we'll see if you can fire up a 2010 four stroke and race it with little work like I did last week in Wilseyville, Ca on the 1980 YZ465!
They hook up when the two stroke is spinning.
Pit Row
The 4 strokes were unwilling to start, stalled as you tried to coax them off idle, and oftentimes stalled out if you used the clutch. So now you have electric fuel pumps and fuel injection and all sorts of other crap riding around on your bike with you to try to fix that, but it still sucks and the whole EFI thing is apparently a "Work in progress". So far it seems like people say it takes away from the overall power of the bike, limits over rev, makes the bikes hyper active off the very bottom and just generally sounds like it sucks. Plus, the whole spagetti bowl of wires, motors, throttle bodies, and assorted garbage has yet to fix the stalling problem, and has only resulted in cartoonishly bad machinery like the 4 stroke bikes at the X games with their idle speeds turned up to like 3500RPM just to try to prevent stalling. Oh and the throttle response still only dreams of being as good as what you get naturally with a 2 stroke through a simple, normally aspirated carburator. Gravity is the fuel pump and it works every time.
I guess we 2 strokes could have a packet of wires coming out of the gear box and a specially integrated EFI pumper-o-meter with an ignition map spark plug oxygen sensing electic eye watching for the exhaust gas beam breaker rev calculator.... Oh and a coolant catch tank that plugs into your laptop so a guy at the track can access the cooling curve of the antifreeze....
But a two stroke gets instant throttle response, starts instantly, and doesn't stall, and it happens without all that junk so the junk's not necessary... They can keep that whole huge pile of crap and no one misses it.
Why encrust a simple system that works in a shell of unecessary crap?
A 4 stroke isn't a more advanced machine, it's just more complicated because it's bristling with crutches.
ok. Fix the mistake.
Hey KX100getter - Go to the head of the class !!
I always here about how the four strokes are easier to go fast on than 2-strokes. Thought someone could kind of explain to me why this is, but I guess not....
You don't need to be a smart alec
4 stroke makes power every other time the piston goes up. Every other stroke the piston goes to top dead center is an exhaust stroke, therefore producing no power. This keeps the front wheel planted and you tend to steer with the front wheel. Tends to make it easier to go fast on when you are allowed a huge displacement advantage.....like twice the displacement. Also makes you a lazy rider, so stick with your KX100 untl you move up to a 125 or 150 2 stroke. The four stroke has probably two hundred more parts in it therefore making it more prone to failure and more complicated for the do it yourselfer to work on.
Of course, no bias here.
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or would you rather work on this 4 stroke engine?
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