Florida Racing 2010?

Bellone
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12/6/2009 6:25pm Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 1:22am
Where to race for 2010?
Give your ideas Positives & Negatives
This is what I have come up with:

Gold Cup & Winter Am
+ Tons of Talent
+ Big gates
+ 5 different tracks
- 6 weeks straight

Dade City Series
+ Gives back the most to the riders (best banquet, possibly in the country)
+ Decent size gates
+ Good Talent in almost all classes
- Randy Yoho (Owner that treats everybody with disrespect)
- 21 week series Feb - Nov (Very long but could deal with)

Florida Series
+ Different tracks
- Talent seems to have moved on
- Banquets are obsolete, this series is potentially great but seems to be run very poorly over the last couple of years.





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CKrider45
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12/7/2009 9:03am
Bellone wrote:
Where to race for 2010? Give your ideas Positives & Negatives This is what I have come up with: Gold Cup & Winter Am + Tons...
Where to race for 2010?
Give your ideas Positives & Negatives
This is what I have come up with:

Gold Cup & Winter Am
+ Tons of Talent
+ Big gates
+ 5 different tracks
- 6 weeks straight

Dade City Series
+ Gives back the most to the riders (best banquet, possibly in the country)
+ Decent size gates
+ Good Talent in almost all classes
- Randy Yoho (Owner that treats everybody with disrespect)
- 21 week series Feb - Nov (Very long but could deal with)

Florida Series
+ Different tracks
- Talent seems to have moved on
- Banquets are obsolete, this series is potentially great but seems to be run very poorly over the last couple of years.





Randy respects EVERYONE. He expects the same in return. Follow the rules at DCMX and everything is cool. He runs a tight ship. His rider turn-outs will show that most people appreciate and respect what he does for motocross in Florida.
ty159
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12/7/2009 10:21am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 7:19pm
Randy respects everyone...You got to be fucking kidding me???? That guy is a world class asshole!! I raced there ONCE, broke no rules, went to speak with Randy about allowing my son, who was very small and was racing only his second race, was on a 65 at 12 and he was a completely abrasive prick! Had my son not been there I'd probably have cracked Randy's squash!! Fucking asshole, pure and simple!

As far as racing in Florida, we mostly do off-road with FTR, when we race MX it's right here in the local area at Southern Raceway in Bainbridge Ga, or at Chase's Fastrack in Cairo, Ga.

If we were to do a motocross series, the Winter Ams would be it. Great tracks, other than Dade shittyy and great competition!!
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12/7/2009 10:26am
Rules are Rules and you can't just race whatever class you want because of your kids size. If he is too old for a 65 then tough luck.

I've been thrown out of Dade City a few times haha. Rules were made to be broken
ty159
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12/7/2009 11:00am
Tough luck nothing... There wasn't a beginner class where he could have raced the 65 against 85's or whatever!! Either way Yoho is a PRICK!!!

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12/7/2009 11:34am
Dade City is a one dimensional track, it showed a spark of difference when Jason Baker got to redesign it. Having said that when you have such a huge following, your not going to be able to have a higher skilled technical track. Lots and lots of beginner kids and more so the older vet riders who do whine alot about "dangerous obstacles".

People who haven't ever been there on a points night have no idea but 400 to 500 riders at a local po dunk fairgrounds is crazy. His 30 years of being in this business he's got lots of good sponsors and a great race program.

We don't follow the race series because I don't want my kid to be one dimensional. But somebody like Renner he can make some decent money there and it's one of the best money tracks around.

I've had way more nice conversations with Randy but also have had a couple heated ones. Put yourself in his shoes, there's a hell of a lot of people up his ass all the time and I bet it can get on your nerves.
12/7/2009 11:50am
If Randy was such a prick, I doubt he would have the following he does at his races. I've known him since '77 when he was still racing. Firm but fair. The race classes are pretty much standardized there. Your kid was ineligible for the 65 class. That's your fault, not Randy's.
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12/7/2009 11:54am
I have to go with the "pro Randy" opinions.

Mind your manners, show courtesy, follow the rules and don't expect (or demand) any special treatment, no matter who you are, you'll have a good time.

Randy runs a tight ship, people don't fuck around there. No bullshit pit riding/racing or general asshole-ness.

Piss Randy off, and expect a strong tongue lashing and/or expect to be shown the gate.

The only people who seem to have a problem with Randy are noobs or out of state folks who think that DC is like other tracks where anything goes....WRONG

Basic rules of DC:
STFU
Be at riders meeting
STFU
Don't pit ride/race
STFU
Be at the gate/staging on time for your race
STFU
If you have a protest, have your story straight and be ready to prove it
or STFU

Other than that, have fun in a safe atmosphere
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12/7/2009 12:11pm
If Randy was such a prick, I doubt he would have the following he does at his races. I've known him since '77 when he was...
If Randy was such a prick, I doubt he would have the following he does at his races. I've known him since '77 when he was still racing. Firm but fair. The race classes are pretty much standardized there. Your kid was ineligible for the 65 class. That's your fault, not Randy's.
We had only raced one other MX race at the time and there was a beginner class, I thought there would be one there too. This was all over 5 years ago. My son was still eligible for the 65 classes in FTR's hare scrambles, which is what we usually race, so no fault, other than Randy being an abrasive prick. He allowed him to rce, but berated me in front of my son. That's what I take exception to. The man is an asshole, and you can defend him all you want, I've heard more negative than positive about the fuckstick!!
12/7/2009 12:22pm Edited Date/Time 12/7/2009 12:22pm
Stick to the trails then ,tough guy.
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12/7/2009 12:23pm
Fuck you asshole!!
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12/7/2009 12:36pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 7:20pm

I agree, I hear more bad than good about him. I cannot argue that the track brings in the numbers & talent at the same time. His business side must be good and I understand you defending him but honestly, how often have you heard people call him a prick or something along those lines. I have seen someone sit on the fence that was along the track and watched Randy approach them in a defensive manner without any resistance. I guess he can remain a bully inside his fence but would love to see him act that way outside of his fenced area. I am sure MANY agree.


12/7/2009 12:43pm
Getting back on topic! A great mostly FL series is the FL/GA MX Series http://www.flgaracing.com/ been around for about 5yrs now, has really grown in the last few years. Good tracks, good banquet, lots of sponsors and products.
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ty159 wrote:
Fuck you asshole!!
Now that's funny right there!! I don't care who you are ....Good one...
12/7/2009 1:06pm
ty159 wrote:
Fuck you asshole!!
ty159 wrote:
Now that's funny right there!! I don't care who you are ....Good one...
No hard feeling's, dude. I took off with the A class one time on a double gate with A/B riders combined when he promoted the old Croom mx. Ended up 3rd in the first moto against the A riders. I pleaded with Randy to let me be scored with the A class in the second moto, but he would not have any of it. Took off with the B class in the second moto, and won it. But my O/A score was jacked.
My mistake, and he reminded me of it several times. Even though I was wrong, he was not my favorite person, but it was a fair call on his part.
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12/7/2009 1:12pm
SmileSmileSmile

No problem, it's all in good fun!! I did have to save the link to that pic, I WILL use it in the future!!
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12/7/2009 1:14pm
Bellone wrote:
I agree, I hear more bad than good about him. I cannot argue that the track brings in the numbers & talent at the same time...

I agree, I hear more bad than good about him. I cannot argue that the track brings in the numbers & talent at the same time. His business side must be good and I understand you defending him but honestly, how often have you heard people call him a prick or something along those lines. I have seen someone sit on the fence that was along the track and watched Randy approach them in a defensive manner without any resistance. I guess he can remain a bully inside his fence but would love to see him act that way outside of his fenced area. I am sure MANY agree.


When things are good, no one says anything
When people are pissed, they express it

That is why you hear more negative than positive, and that's normal in everyday life

You'll always hear 10x the number of unhappy patrons to happy ones. Why? Because everyone expects the service to be their way or what they're used to, so they don't complain.
When it isn't the way they want it is when people complain.

People are used to the rules or chaos of whatever their local track is, and when they show up elsewhere and don't get to act the same way, well then that's that promoter's fault, huh?

Randy plays no favorites and has kicked out and even banned from the facility for a time, his own son.

If you want chaos and a loosely run program, DC isn't the place for you
If you want a track run like clock work and no chaos and bullshit, DC is for you
It really is that simple

People who use common sense, pay attention, follow rules and expect no special favors get along quite well at DC....and amazingly, even with all the other tracks around, DC gets big crowds and fast racers....and BTW, it's in the middle of BFE
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You can also try the South Florida MX Winter Series. They had their first series this past fall and turnout was awesome, had over 500 people at the banquet held at Hard Rock Hotel. A lot to pick from in the state. So many people race now! With Gold Cup, Dade City Series races, South Florida MX Series, FTR, and what each of the tracks do on their own it is amazing what you have to choose from. They are all great depending on what you are looking for.

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12/7/2009 1:21pm
Dave, you can get races run without chaos, BS and they run like clock work at Reddick, and the Blackburns are first class people, who are fair but firm. But they do it tactfully!
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Dave, you can get races run without chaos, BS and they run like clock work at Reddick, and the Blackburns are first class people, who are...
Dave, you can get races run without chaos, BS and they run like clock work at Reddick, and the Blackburns are first class people, who are fair but firm. But they do it tactfully!
Yes, the Blackburn's do a great job, but they do not run anywhere near the number of events or open practices Randy does.

Right?


ty159
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True, I wish they did, but sadly they don't!! Open practices only on Saturdays before Sunday races. I'm not sure if I've ever seen a practice on non-race weekends!
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12/7/2009 1:46pm
do you riders want to learn how to ride indoors instead of falling asleep some of these road race tracks get pretty boring.
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By the way, you can also check out www.pintomx.com
The kid's doing a good job with Florida MX as well as National stuff
Has a decent interview with Zack Freeberg and a few others on it
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Back to the post, has anyone noticed that the Florida Series taken a shit!
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Racing is always good. I like it.
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Good as in?
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South Florida Series?

Have they posted a schedule?

I believe they are ran by the guy that runs The Florida Series only they have banquets and give back to the riders because others are involved with him.
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South Florida Series just completed and had a big banquet at the Hollywood Hard Rock Hotel and Casino.
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12/8/2009 1:34am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 7:20pm
I had a conversation last week with Randy about the content of this post. He knows what he wants at his races. I have had head butts with him over the years. We laughed about it now (last week).


He is very appreciative of all the people that race his Saturday night series. You will get over it. I did. It's his rules.
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12/8/2009 2:52am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 7:20pm
Bellone wrote:
South Florida Series? Have they posted a schedule? I believe they are ran by the guy that runs The Florida Series only they have banquets and...
South Florida Series?

Have they posted a schedule?

I believe they are ran by the guy that runs The Florida Series only they have banquets and give back to the riders because others are involved with him.
The South Florida MX Series is run by all the tracks that are involved. Seminole Tribe, Thundercross, and Bithlo. The series is not run by a single promoter.

Go to:
http://www.southfloridamxseries.com for more info.

The Winter Series starts January 10th.

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