Feld,AMA and MXSports needs to declare war on FIM

vanillaice782 wrote:

Alright I'm in! What's the plan?

500guy wrote:

They do what our Fathers did and Declare independence!

500guy wrote:

Huh ?

Olson wrote:

Yes, let's hear the plan!

500guy wrote:

Conference call , Hello FIM , You suck See ya later!

newmann wrote:

Which AMA?

ML512 wrote:

I guess I'm just sitting here asking myself this, what's the positive of kicking out the FIM and in turn WADA? I've mentioend this before, with...

I guess I'm just sitting here asking myself this, what's the positive of kicking out the FIM and in turn WADA? I've mentioend this before, with outdoors we're dealing with USADA, which is going to hand out the same type of penalties if we bring them into Supercross in their place with AMA/MX sports.

500guy wrote:

The Positive ? You need to ask what the positive is getting rid of an organization that GP's are married to ? Not to mention there...

The Positive ? You need to ask what the positive is getting rid of an organization that GP's are married to ?

Not to mention there is absolutely no need for the FIM to be involved.

ML512 wrote:

I'm waiting for your positive. I really feel like most people are lumping in the FIM's decisions with Youthstream's, which run the GPs.

500guy wrote:

And most people are like you and don't know there is a real connection.

Positive = no foreign involvement and 1 less iron in the fire.

ML512 wrote:

There's a connection, I never denied that. But as to we are discussing (and that you're the OP), what negative affect does this have that they're...

There's a connection, I never denied that. But as to we are discussing (and that you're the OP), what negative affect does this have that they're involved with the GPs? They're are the International Motorcycle Federation that governs numerous two-wheeled motorcycle events world wide.

Without them, we lose the World Championship status and would return to AMA sanctioning, and the AMA is still the U.S. affiliate of the FIM.

Unless we're pushing to have an all new governing body for Supercross? Who runs it, why, and how?

This whole FIM based argument has started over drug testing. So how does that relate into this new version of Supercross? Are we going back to no drug testing at all? Sounds like a big step backwards to me... And as I stated before, if we went with USADA, we'd more than likely end up with the same results for penalties as we did with the FIM/WADA. Other than we would more likely have quicker decisions, which would be a plus.

500guy wrote:

Not for Myself and any people who have followed the Sport since the 70's. Feld should have stayed with FIM just long enough to resolve the...

Not for Myself and any people who have followed the Sport since the 70's.

Feld should have stayed with FIM just long enough to resolve the Jam Sports fiasco and when the contract ended should have canned FIM.

The only positive FIM brought was a worthless name "World" and a leverage bar against the AMA

ML512 wrote:

I'm still waiting for your answers to any of my above questions... I don't see a definitive reason for the need to "declare war" yet.

500guy wrote:

Am I on trial ?

I answer what I want.

ML512 wrote:

There's a connection, I never denied that. But as to we are discussing (and that you're the OP), what negative affect does this have that they're...

There's a connection, I never denied that. But as to we are discussing (and that you're the OP), what negative affect does this have that they're involved with the GPs? They're are the International Motorcycle Federation that governs numerous two-wheeled motorcycle events world wide.

Without them, we lose the World Championship status and would return to AMA sanctioning, and the AMA is still the U.S. affiliate of the FIM.

Unless we're pushing to have an all new governing body for Supercross? Who runs it, why, and how?

This whole FIM based argument has started over drug testing. So how does that relate into this new version of Supercross? Are we going back to no drug testing at all? Sounds like a big step backwards to me... And as I stated before, if we went with USADA, we'd more than likely end up with the same results for penalties as we did with the FIM/WADA. Other than we would more likely have quicker decisions, which would be a plus.

500guy wrote:

Not for Myself and any people who have followed the Sport since the 70's. Feld should have stayed with FIM just long enough to resolve the...

Not for Myself and any people who have followed the Sport since the 70's.

Feld should have stayed with FIM just long enough to resolve the Jam Sports fiasco and when the contract ended should have canned FIM.

The only positive FIM brought was a worthless name "World" and a leverage bar against the AMA

ML512 wrote:

I'm still waiting for your answers to any of my above questions... I don't see a definitive reason for the need to "declare war" yet.

newmann wrote:

Which AMA?

Olson wrote:

Reddit AMA.

ML512 wrote:

There's a connection, I never denied that. But as to we are discussing (and that you're the OP), what negative affect does this have that they're...

There's a connection, I never denied that. But as to we are discussing (and that you're the OP), what negative affect does this have that they're involved with the GPs? They're are the International Motorcycle Federation that governs numerous two-wheeled motorcycle events world wide.

Without them, we lose the World Championship status and would return to AMA sanctioning, and the AMA is still the U.S. affiliate of the FIM.

Unless we're pushing to have an all new governing body for Supercross? Who runs it, why, and how?

This whole FIM based argument has started over drug testing. So how does that relate into this new version of Supercross? Are we going back to no drug testing at all? Sounds like a big step backwards to me... And as I stated before, if we went with USADA, we'd more than likely end up with the same results for penalties as we did with the FIM/WADA. Other than we would more likely have quicker decisions, which would be a plus.

ML512 wrote:

There's a connection, I never denied that. But as to we are discussing (and that you're the OP), what negative affect does this have that they're...

There's a connection, I never denied that. But as to we are discussing (and that you're the OP), what negative affect does this have that they're involved with the GPs? They're are the International Motorcycle Federation that governs numerous two-wheeled motorcycle events world wide.

Without them, we lose the World Championship status and would return to AMA sanctioning, and the AMA is still the U.S. affiliate of the FIM.

Unless we're pushing to have an all new governing body for Supercross? Who runs it, why, and how?

This whole FIM based argument has started over drug testing. So how does that relate into this new version of Supercross? Are we going back to no drug testing at all? Sounds like a big step backwards to me... And as I stated before, if we went with USADA, we'd more than likely end up with the same results for penalties as we did with the FIM/WADA. Other than we would more likely have quicker decisions, which would be a plus.

Trav138 wrote:

Have you read the AMA letter? DC's thoughts in racerhead? The whole situation has been a mess from the start. I think most would prefer USADA...

Have you read the AMA letter? DC's thoughts in racerhead?
The whole situation has been a mess from the start.
I think most would prefer USADA. At least we know one of the most important decisions of the sport in recent history WON'T be made by an Indian lawyer at a Best Western in Switzerland. If thats what you want than yay lets keep things the way they are.

500guy wrote:

Lets do this , and get it over with, it's an old model that is broken, We don't need it. The Manufactures might want to stay...

Lets do this , and get it over with, it's an old model that is broken, We don't need it.

The Manufactures might want to stay true to the FIM but nobody has the infrastructure or resources to pull either series off.

They will come race , They have no other option.