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Anyone have any idea how much Horsepower they're probably getting out of these bikes these days, they seem to have an incredible amount of snap out of the Corners. I have a couple CR 500's and I think they were quoted as having around 58 to 62 hp, but I think the Factory 450's are putting out more than that. I thought I heard Ricky Carmichael saying once that they had to actually de-tune the Bikes just to make them more manageable. I can just imagine what one of those bikes would be like for an average Joe to ride
The Shop
The amount they have is dependent on how much the rider wants.
The idea that a 4-stroke makes more torque per cc is a common misconception. What they do better is that they have a much wider rpm range. But, tractor your 500 off idle, and you'll walk on those 450's.
It's not so much about how much horsepower they are making. What separates the Factory bikes is how they put the horsepower down. It's about manageable, controllable horsepower. Whether that be 55hp, 75hp, or anywhere in between. But know this.. they can make those things into a fire breathing monster.. if the rider wanted that.
I'm guessing these bikes make somewhere in the region of 60 horsepower (most stock 450's now have figures in the mid-high 50's). I'm also guessing that these guys can ride most tracks in probably only two gears, and a good number of them in only one gear. No chance of doing that on a two stroke.
Pit Row
The only reason the smokers seem so tweaked is because they were limited in displacement by such a large margin that the manufacturers had to squeeze the shit out of the much smaller engines to keep pace...and that significantly narrows the powerband. And, yes, you can ride around in one gear on a 500, while still walking away from the 450 thumpers. Your statement that you can't means you don't know what it's really about.
People wanted something different, and, now we got it.
I see 4 strokes as a band aid until the cleaner 2 strokes are back.
I've always been a die hard 2 stroke rider and only in the last two years have I begun riding the 4 strokes. It's a pure fantasy to think even the modern 2strokes preforms as well on a track as a 4 stroke. It's also a fantasy to think you can get you heavy ass 4 stroke to work as well in the trees and gnar as a 2 stroke.. Each have different applications and different strong points.. All of you engineer wanna-be's can argue torque, HP, useable HP, etc... I'll ride my stroker on the track, sand, and more opened areas, and my smoker in the tight gnar..
It's funny how emotional you ladies get defending the 2 stroke instead of mounting an intelligent discussion based on facts and seat time..
There's no better track bike made for a normal joe (like myself) than a 350SXF
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