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Edited Date/Time 6/24/2014 2:44pm
''There is no doubt, now completely recovered from his early season injuries Red Bull KTM Factory rider Jeffrey Herlings is the fastest rider in the FIM World Motocross Championships and probably the fastest man on the planet.''

MX Large says so, so it must be true Woohoo

http://www.mxlarge.com/2014/06/23/herlings-fastest-man-on-the-planet/
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tek14 6/24/2014 4:39am
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Yes last year it was Tomac.. this year Martin.. soon it will be some amateur rider..
Untill JH moves up he is just fastest un 23 years GP rider.
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TannerMxer 6/24/2014 6:26am
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How many times per week does a euro need to create a thread like this? Don't you guys have your own Euro-forums based in Europe for these types of posts?

Herlings needs to do two things: 1) ride 450's and beat the top guys; 2) ride 450 Sx and beat the top guys. When he does this consistently, he can maybe be considered.
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jamma10 6/24/2014 6:33am
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TannerMxer wrote:
How many times per week does a euro need to create a thread like this? Don't you guys have your own Euro-forums based in Europe for...
How many times per week does a euro need to create a thread like this? Don't you guys have your own Euro-forums based in Europe for these types of posts?

Herlings needs to do two things: 1) ride 450's and beat the top guys; 2) ride 450 Sx and beat the top guys. When he does this consistently, he can maybe be considered.
I think the OP was just poking a lttle fun at Geoff Meyer who made the claim.

I think you'd be hard pushed to find more than one or two Europeans on this board who genuinely think Herlings is the FMOTP, the other 20-30 of us active members probably wouldn't make that claim.

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RangerLee 6/24/2014 9:38am
6/24/2014 9:38am
Caroli is the FMOTP at the moment (MX only), until Herlings races him in the MX class, he is still second fiddle.
F150Motocrosser 6/24/2014 9:49am
6/24/2014 9:49am
Is it just me, or has Caroli shown less dominance and more vulnerability this year than in years past?? Desalle seems to be really stepping up his game and becoming more of a viable threat to Caroli rather than just another "mere mortal"
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Park Boys 6/24/2014 9:59am
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F150Motocrosser wrote:
Is it just me, or has Caroli shown less dominance and more vulnerability this year than in years past?? Desalle seems to be really stepping up...
Is it just me, or has Caroli shown less dominance and more vulnerability this year than in years past?? Desalle seems to be really stepping up his game and becoming more of a viable threat to Caroli rather than just another "mere mortal"
I think Desalle has stepped it up, but France was handed to him on a silver platter AC should have won, In spain as he was going for the pass he almost crashed and backed off, the first Italian GP AC was storming towards Desalle then crashed. AC has won 6 of the 11 races and it should be 7 and could easily be 8. Last week was a wash as AC was sick. So yes and no Desalle has stepped it up but AC is still in charge, 25 point lead and he will just maintain I feel. AC hasnt pushed it since the second half of 2012 and when he did that no one was close.
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Jarid332 6/24/2014 10:01am
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Geoff would fit in perfectly at psych hospital.
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jamma10 6/24/2014 10:03am
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F150Motocrosser wrote:
Is it just me, or has Caroli shown less dominance and more vulnerability this year than in years past?? Desalle seems to be really stepping up...
Is it just me, or has Caroli shown less dominance and more vulnerability this year than in years past?? Desalle seems to be really stepping up his game and becoming more of a viable threat to Caroli rather than just another "mere mortal"
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I think Desalle has stepped it up, but France was handed to him on a silver platter AC should have won, In spain as he was...
I think Desalle has stepped it up, but France was handed to him on a silver platter AC should have won, In spain as he was going for the pass he almost crashed and backed off, the first Italian GP AC was storming towards Desalle then crashed. AC has won 6 of the 11 races and it should be 7 and could easily be 8. Last week was a wash as AC was sick. So yes and no Desalle has stepped it up but AC is still in charge, 25 point lead and he will just maintain I feel. AC hasnt pushed it since the second half of 2012 and when he did that no one was close.
Plus the fact that his old man passed away.

AC often looks beatable until half way through the season, but he then goes on to dominate while his closest competitors fall by the wayside with injuries or inconsistency.
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Matt Fisher 6/24/2014 11:36am
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tvo314 wrote:
He might be.
Very possible, he's a beast. It'll be interesting to see how he does at MXDN this year. I know you can't accurately rate riders on 1 race, but it's certainly an effective way to compare them.
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mxb2 6/24/2014 11:50am
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Imo current outdoor best cairoli,kroc dungey herlings, add sx and its kroc , dunge best riders in the world, if rv was healthy he is the baddest dude on the planet on a mx bike.
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Silliker269 6/24/2014 12:01pm
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On the small bikes .... yeah he just might be, the 450 is a whole different beast though
inthebadboycorner 6/24/2014 12:13pm
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TC222 had a Twitter pick of him hanging his head over a bowl of steam and a towel over it, say's he was sick last week.
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tek14 6/24/2014 12:26pm
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Yes and Desalle was hurt after last weeks "reed type jump". TC gained most points at Thailand where others had problems with bad fuel. 450 seems more interesting this year.
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RangerLee 6/24/2014 12:59pm
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RV killed in SX, however you can not even consider him right now as he is not doing MX. For the point of whom is faster at MX, it is hard to not say Caroli right now, though Kroc is giving some damn good evidence for being considered.

With a difference in track style, it is not an easy comparison, but I am impressed Caroli can take a 350 and kick balls against so many 450's. Kroc is proving his speed on AMA tracks, and proved it on the 450 on the MXGP track last year.
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Lamecake 6/24/2014 2:17pm
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I've said it before, will say it again; Herlings is 9 out of 10 times putting down faster laps than the best 450/MXGP riders. I'd say he's safely the fastest guy on this side of the pond. FMOTP? Not so sure, but he'd definitely be there with the other top guys. His style is very refined, puts the bike wherever he likes, scrubs every jump, superb legcontrol, etc.
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tek14 6/24/2014 2:20pm
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Yes fastest guy in schoolboy class.. same thing as Tomac and others with 250f.. when they move up does not work out like that.

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Lamecake 6/24/2014 2:22pm
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tek14 wrote:
Yes fastest guy in schoolboy class.. same thing as Tomac and others with 250f.. when they move up does not work out like that.
Yeah Roczen is failing for sure Dry
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Matt Fisher 6/24/2014 2:28pm
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In some regards it doesn't matter which class they're in.
IE- Budds Creek MXDN 2007, the FMOTP was RV. Displacement be damned, he was the fastest guy.
I get the idea that you're not the top guy unless you're in the 450F class, but at any given time, the 250F guy may actually be faster.
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tek14 6/24/2014 2:44pm
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tek14 wrote:
Yes fastest guy in schoolboy class.. same thing as Tomac and others with 250f.. when they move up does not work out like that.
Lamecake wrote:
Yeah Roczen is failing for sure Dry
How JH be fastest then.. Roczen did wipe floors with him at GPs? :D

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