FIRST LOOK! GLEN HELEN GRAND PRIX TRACK: IT IS MAJOR WORLD MOTOCROSS ENTERPRISE:

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FIRST LOOK! GLEN HELEN GRAND PRIX TRACK: IT IS MAJOR WORLD MOTOCROSS ENTERPRISE:
It's big, it's bad and it has tons of stuff that no one has ever seen before in the USA

It is no secret that Glen Helen was working on the AMA 250/450 National track, when the contract talks with the Nationals hit a snag. That snag was that MX Sports refused to give Glen Helen more than a one-year contract, meanwhile they had visited Pala Raceway (about 80 miles south of Glen Helen) several times. It seemed obvious to Glen Helen that MX Sports was just okey-doking them so that Pala would have another year to get ready to take Glen Helen's date in 2011. There were other issues of accountability, but, in essence, Glen Helen didn't want to be pawn in MX Sports business moves. If MX Sports didn't want to race at Glen Helen, they didn't have to—because somebody else wanted to race there. Glen Helen dropped off the AMA schedule at the exact moment that the British Grand Prix had troubles with the horse racing facility in Chepstow that they planned to use on the exact same day (May 30). Thus, Glen Helen took England's date on the World Championship schedule. So, this weekend's USGP is really the British GP also.

For Glen Helen, the USGP track wasn't a major issue, MXA's Jody Weisel had already designed the track, started on the fencing and had moved all the dirt into place (in fact, a track map had been submitted to MX Sports back in January for the National layout). No changes were made to the Glen Helen USGP map or layout (apart from removing the word "National" and putting "FIM USGP" at the top of the drawing).

This was the original AMA National map. Only the name has been changed to protect the innocent.

With three days to go before the USGP, the finishing touches are being put on every aspect of the track by Karl Scanlon, Greg Adkins and Justin Barclay. And Glen Helen's new two-story mechanic's area (which they will ship to Lakewood, Colorado, after the USGP for the MXDN) is the biggest motocross track structure in the USA. It will be shipped back to Glen Helen after the MXDN for the next USGP and eventually used at the 2013 Glen Helen Motocross des Nations. For more info go to www.glenhelen.com.

Here are some photos of the work on Glen Helen's facilities and buildings. As for the track, it is done—and ready for Saturday morning practice and qualifying races.


This is the first turn from the top of Talladega. The two-story mechanic's signaling area is on the right with the pit area behind it. The banking on Talladega is 45 degrees. It is very steep and almost impossible to walk up.


The victory podium is on the left and the Red Bull hospitality center is being constructed in the foreground.


The small piles of dirt on the sides of the track are to support the Red Bull arch, which will go over the finish line jump. Glen Helen's two-story scoring tower is in the background.


From the second turn you can see the banking on Talladega and the camelback jump right out of the wide open first turn.


1970 Trans-AMA Champion Dave Nicoll is the track director for the FIM. Dave was at the last USGP at Glen Helen back in 1992 (and it is the 40th anniversary of his Trans-AMA victory on a BSA).


The triple step-up is on the left. It leads to a right-hand uphill turn that goes to the top of Mt. Whitney (where dirt is piled up to make the riders visible from the other side of the track). The riders come down the right side of Whitney (not the downhill that is visible in the photo). The big step-down jump back to the floor of Glen Helen is on the right.


The Grand Prix promoters couldn't bring their two-story mechanic's area to the USA, so Glen Helen and Lakewood went in on replicating it for the USGP and the MXDN. It will be used at those two races and then stored until next year. It is 180 feet long. You don't want to know how much it cost.


Karl Scanlon is the King of the Cats.


The red, white and blue starting gate is in honor of the American riders, but the French will feel right at home behind it.


Instead of repeater banners with sponsors logos on them (that block the spectator's view of the action), Glen Helen is using see-through nylon fence to delineate the track's neutral zone.


Glen Helen from above. The pits are on the bottom left, with the National track on the left side of the photo and the REM track on the right. For the USGP, parts of both tracks will be used.

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F-ing awesome.
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The 1st para about MX Sports' and Glen Helen's issues...

That's what is known as "Ass-Covering"...

Classic Ass Covering.

When someone has the balls and Editorial wit to ask Ryan at Pala...maybe then...we'll hear the truth.

Classic, indeed.
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Oh boy pass the popcorn this will get good.
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Oh boy pass the popcorn this will get good.
I know...I'm wondering if the Moths will fly right into the flame...

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Pala's track will probably be better Wink
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johansen wrote:
Pala's track will probably be better Wink
Look, I really like what Pala's done and hope they succeed...

HOWEVER...

The Glen has History.

It's among my favorite tracks...in the World.

The Current lay-out is Classic-Glen...a.k.a. Awesome!

In a perfect World...SoCal should have -2- Nationals (Here come the Rants!) since it is HOME to the Industry and a vast majority of the riders...by Proxy...if you will...

Who knows, it could happen...
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5/27/2010 12:24pm
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have been spent 3 years ago.

The rest was good
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5/27/2010 12:25pm
Anyone know if/when that will be televised?
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I was expecting the "two story mechanics area", to be a bit more dramatic than scaffolding with a tarp on the top (unless it's far from finished), after the hype in the article.


And I can't help but feel like beef between Glen Helen and MX Sports has more to do with Glen Helen's ties to Motocross Action and MX Sports ties to Racer X, than anything else. Glen Helen seems pissed that the owner of MX Sports is also the owner of Racer X---just my uneducated, uninformed, know nothing observation of the situation-from the outside looking in.....Why do they need to bash on MX Sports all the time about the deal? They seem WAY happier to have the GP....so they should be thanking MX sports for making the decision for them (if-and it's a big "IF"-what they say about the incident is true....
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500guy wrote:
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have...
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have been spent 3 years ago.

The rest was good
Hey!

National and GP on a 3 day/Holiday-weekend?

Nah, not in the current state of political-madness...

But...
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500guy wrote:
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have...
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have been spent 3 years ago.

The rest was good
STFU already. Every Glen Helen National was at the top of the heap since it's inception. There is not a National track that has their luxury of elevation change and layout. You call yourself a lover of all things moto and then you contridict yourself everyday. Call your doc and regulate your meds or something. Up one day down the next. Sometimes the same day. Like today.
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500guy wrote:
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have...
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have been spent 3 years ago.

The rest was good
jaeckle wrote:
STFU already. Every Glen Helen National was at the top of the heap since it's inception. There is not a National track that has their luxury...
STFU already. Every Glen Helen National was at the top of the heap since it's inception. There is not a National track that has their luxury of elevation change and layout. You call yourself a lover of all things moto and then you contridict yourself everyday. Call your doc and regulate your meds or something. Up one day down the next. Sometimes the same day. Like today.
Uh, yeah, hey there...

You ever been to Unadilla?

I'm jus' askin'...
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Its a shame GH is off the AMA tour. Maybe it will come back one day.
Lets see how Jody and crew feel after its done. After Luongo and crew head back overseas.
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500guy wrote:
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have...
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have been spent 3 years ago.

The rest was good
jaeckle wrote:
STFU already. Every Glen Helen National was at the top of the heap since it's inception. There is not a National track that has their luxury...
STFU already. Every Glen Helen National was at the top of the heap since it's inception. There is not a National track that has their luxury of elevation change and layout. You call yourself a lover of all things moto and then you contridict yourself everyday. Call your doc and regulate your meds or something. Up one day down the next. Sometimes the same day. Like today.
TeamGreen wrote:
Uh, yeah, hey there...

You ever been to Unadilla?

I'm jus' askin'...
I have been to dilla in 96. Love the place. RC and JS hate the place. Remote location will dictate that mxsports gets rid of it as soon as possible.
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5/27/2010 1:37pm Edited Date/Time 5/27/2010 1:40pm
Want to bet?


Glen Helen looks really good.


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johansen wrote:
Pala's track will probably be better Wink
TeamGreen wrote:
Look, I really like what Pala's done and hope they succeed... HOWEVER... The Glen has History. It's among my favorite tracks...in the World. The Current lay-out...
Look, I really like what Pala's done and hope they succeed...

HOWEVER...

The Glen has History.

It's among my favorite tracks...in the World.

The Current lay-out is Classic-Glen...a.k.a. Awesome!

In a perfect World...SoCal should have -2- Nationals (Here come the Rants!) since it is HOME to the Industry and a vast majority of the riders...by Proxy...if you will...

Who knows, it could happen...
Sarcasm Smile
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500guy wrote:
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have...
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have been spent 3 years ago.

The rest was good
jaeckle wrote:
STFU already. Every Glen Helen National was at the top of the heap since it's inception. There is not a National track that has their luxury...
STFU already. Every Glen Helen National was at the top of the heap since it's inception. There is not a National track that has their luxury of elevation change and layout. You call yourself a lover of all things moto and then you contridict yourself everyday. Call your doc and regulate your meds or something. Up one day down the next. Sometimes the same day. Like today.
Fuck you asshole
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DC wrote:
Want to bet?


Glen Helen looks really good.


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Wait, what are we betting on?

Glen Helen has been coming together over the last few weeks, for sure.

One thing I hope we don't see in the future is Youthstream and MX Sports putting events on top of each other...or on top of and near each other. I've seen it before in other sports, and no one is the winner in that game. I'd hope things stay more civil than that.
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DC wrote:
Want to bet?


Glen Helen looks really good.


DC

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GuyB wrote:
Wait, what are we betting on? Glen Helen has been coming together over the last few weeks, for sure. One thing I hope we don't see...
Wait, what are we betting on?

Glen Helen has been coming together over the last few weeks, for sure.

One thing I hope we don't see in the future is Youthstream and MX Sports putting events on top of each other...or on top of and near each other. I've seen it before in other sports, and no one is the winner in that game. I'd hope things stay more civil than that.
I think we are betting against an idiotic statement about Unadilla gettin' axed by MX Sports because it's too "Remote"...
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I got invited to race the Vet GP but am racing the OTHG National at Fernley Nevada instead for the Championship, why couldn't they change there date, I would kick azz at Glen Helen. J/K!
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About Unadilla not being around. I think they are in it for the long haul.

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Thus, Glen Helen took England's date on the World Championship schedule. So, this weekend's USGP is really the British GP also.

Hey it's my home GP sweet.
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[IMG]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/motokid40/not_this_shit_again.jpg[/IMG]
What?

Your Honda BREAK, again?

Bwahahahahahaha!
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Hey Hey Hey, I've got a backup, Maybe yellow in the future!
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5/27/2010 2:32pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 11:09pm

Moe you better stay RED!!
See you at the Fern
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500guy wrote:
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have...
To bad they couldn't just have the event, got to try and throw some people under the bus to justify money spent now that should have been spent 3 years ago.

The rest was good
TeamGreen wrote:
Hey!

National and GP on a 3 day/Holiday-weekend?

Nah, not in the current state of political-madness...

But...
Your words from Vital MX to MX Sports and Youthstream's ears....
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5/27/2010 4:36pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 11:09pm
And the Aussies!....and the Brits....and the Dutch, and the Russians and and the Thais, Cubans, Icelanders, New Zealanders, Czechs, Chileans, Liberians, Norewegans, Slovakians, Puerto Ricans, Croatians, Phillippinos, Cambodians, Paraguayans, Serbians, Panamanians, Faroe Islanders, North Koreans, Dominicans....right ALL start gates from now on should be red white and blue!


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Alex wrote:
And the Aussies!....and the Brits....and the Dutch, and the Russians and and the Thais, Cubans, Icelanders, New Zealanders, Czechs, Chileans, Liberians, Norewegans, Slovakians, Puerto Ricans, Croatians...
And the Aussies!....and the Brits....and the Dutch, and the Russians and and the Thais, Cubans, Icelanders, New Zealanders, Czechs, Chileans, Liberians, Norewegans, Slovakians, Puerto Ricans, Croatians, Phillippinos, Cambodians, Paraguayans, Serbians, Panamanians, Faroe Islanders, North Koreans, Dominicans....right ALL start gates from now on should be red white and blue!


Yes I'm sure the Paraguyans and Cambodians will be feeling all patriotic behind it too.
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Its the Faroe islanders you wanna watch out for. They eat Puffins!

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