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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 3:00pm
So if JGR goes Suzuki (could stay Yamaha but lets say they jump ship), L&M rumored going green, Motoconcepts rumored going red, who does that leave riding blue? Just Metal Mulisha and Valli? Any info on their potential riders who can challenge for podiums? Now I ride kawi's but it is going to be sad to see such a successful brand barely crack into the top 5 on a good night against one of the most stacked fields in history. I'm only talking 450's by the way, 250f's is a different story.
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motokawi818 9/30/2011 12:03pm
9/30/2011 12:03pm
The 450s are turds. With the riding styles now where everyone is whipping and scrubbing those new yz450f's are just slugs

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adamdf 9/30/2011 12:15pm
9/30/2011 12:15pm
NV825 wrote:
So if JGR goes Suzuki (could stay Yamaha but lets say they jump ship), L&M rumored going green, Motoconcepts rumored going red, who does that leave...
So if JGR goes Suzuki (could stay Yamaha but lets say they jump ship), L&M rumored going green, Motoconcepts rumored going red, who does that leave riding blue? Just Metal Mulisha and Valli? Any info on their potential riders who can challenge for podiums? Now I ride kawi's but it is going to be sad to see such a successful brand barely crack into the top 5 on a good night against one of the most stacked fields in history. I'm only talking 450's by the way, 250f's is a different story.
Interesting points you have there. If JGR did leave Yamaha, who will they go after? I'm thinking they might go after one of the big names that hasn't confirmed what brand they are riding as yet. hmmmm
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Ramrod 9/30/2011 12:27pm
9/30/2011 12:27pm
I wonder what their strategy is? They had a lot of blue out there outdoors this year but all from 6th-15th. Millsaps, Brayton, Hahn, Dietrich, Chisholm, Wey etc. and Stroupe, Peick, Regal indoors. Of course Stewart.

If all these guys aren't pumped on the bike, someone still has to ride it. There are only so many rides to go around and riders need jobs. Hahn probably won't be back on one even if he wanted it.
miedosoracing1 9/30/2011 12:32pm
9/30/2011 12:32pm
Matthes quote: "Congrats to Yamaha for looking at the rule and building a bad-ass bike but what if?"

MiedosoRacing quote: "Congrats to Yamaha for making a bike no team wants to run in 2012."
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rg4 9/30/2011 12:43pm
9/30/2011 12:43pm
newmann wrote:
Yamaha is like the crazy nasty ass honey badger, they just don't give a shit.

https://youtu.be/4r7wHMg5Yjg
Very nice response. Love the symbolic representation. Yamaha does things thier own way. Mono shock in the 70's, front mounted radiator in 80's, YZ400F in 90's, reverse engine in 2000's.
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TeamGreen 9/30/2011 12:50pm
9/30/2011 12:50pm
Star Racing is on Yam's and I think they'll be "Teaming up" w/ another "Yamaha" team and adding 450s to the program.
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NV825 9/30/2011 12:56pm
9/30/2011 12:56pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2011 12:57pm
adamdf wrote:
Interesting points you have there. If JGR did leave Yamaha, who will they go after? I'm thinking they might go after one of the big names...
Interesting points you have there. If JGR did leave Yamaha, who will they go after? I'm thinking they might go after one of the big names that hasn't confirmed what brand they are riding as yet. hmmmm
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BobbyM 9/30/2011 1:14pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
Star Racing is on Yam's and I think they'll be "Teaming up" w/ another "Yamaha" team and adding 450s to the program.
deegan's team?
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aaryn #234 9/30/2011 2:49pm
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Has the Yamaha 450 become the new KTM ?


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NV825 9/30/2011 4:46pm
9/30/2011 4:46pm
I know DV has been either riding or working on/with Yamaha's forever, I'd be really interested to hear his point of view of the evolution of the blue turd as you guys call it.
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wawazat 9/30/2011 4:54pm
9/30/2011 4:54pm
Really easy to blame the bike.
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Motodave15 9/30/2011 5:33pm
9/30/2011 5:33pm
This is really the most thought provoking thread ive come across on here in awhile...I find it interesting that the teams are literally walking away from yamaha... I personally believe that, at the very top level of riding something is goin on with the bike that most of us mortals really cant comprehend. Its also one thing is a rider is blaming the bike, but when teams are leaving it behind along with riders there is something seriously going on.

wawazat- its really easy to think you've never ridden at a fast pace before or know that the bikes handle differently the faster you go.

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-eagle- 9/30/2011 7:51pm
9/30/2011 7:51pm
Was does the honey badger have to eat for the next 3 weeks....... Cobra.
Hopefully one doesn't eat DV.
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Trent179 9/30/2011 9:36pm
9/30/2011 9:36pm
wawazat wrote:
Really easy to blame the bike.
No shit. Milsaps and Tedesco both acted like they didn't think it was that bad. I don't think I've read anything about Bubba actually coming out and saying he didn't like it though.
motoarmageddon 9/30/2011 9:46pm
9/30/2011 9:46pm
if you think about it, most pros dont bad mouth the bikes at all. the only ones that come to mind are of course Reed, and Mike Larocco. Bubba said some stuff about the KX but that seems like karma may have bit him in the ass. that KX won villo the SX championship. and it won his dumbass 24 motos in 08 OUTDOORs! and now outdoors must scare him after that unadilla debacle on the revolutionary yamaha. now his bike actually does suck.
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wawazat 9/30/2011 10:01pm
9/30/2011 10:01pm
wawazat wrote:
Really easy to blame the bike.
Trent179 wrote:
No shit. Milsaps and Tedesco both acted like they didn't think it was that bad. I don't think I've read anything about Bubba actually coming out...
No shit. Milsaps and Tedesco both acted like they didn't think it was that bad. I don't think I've read anything about Bubba actually coming out and saying he didn't like it though.
James was able to do things on the Yamaha that Dungey, Reed, and Poto, couldn't do. Remember the quad he did at Anaheim last year? I seem to remember James wrecking himself on the KX too. It's always been win or crash with that guy, not matter what flavor bike he is on.
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jmar 9/30/2011 10:22pm
9/30/2011 10:22pm
The Yamaha works for some, but others can't deal with it's turning traits.

It's not a "bad bike" per say, but for some, but it can be a nightmare for others when talking about pro level racing.

Not everyone gels with every bike.
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Knobbyjake 10/1/2011 6:05am
10/1/2011 6:05am
I noticed in the outdoors Dietrich did much better last year on the Kawie. He really dropped back this year.
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bullpen58 10/1/2011 7:23am
10/1/2011 7:23am
All that matters is what did Jody and the MXA wrecking crew say about the bike? Four stars?
aFACEdismembered 10/1/2011 7:30am
10/1/2011 7:30am
They suck so bad that an MX2 rider won a moto in the MX3 class at the des Nations. And multiple rounds of the GP's from their factory riders. Im still convinced, like the 350, it depends more on the riders style than the bike.
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Derpin' DJ 10/1/2011 7:34am
10/1/2011 7:34am
It also took the top 2 positions in the 450 class over here (with Marmont and Coppins). Although, Coppins did say in the PulpMX podcast that its a tricky bike to get set up properly

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