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2 M Max systems
Is that a muffler or is your bike just glad to see me? These things are LONG!
The AMA is going to 2 M Max for 2012 and I have to believe most of the companies selling mufflers for AMA competition to pass 94 db will have to get larger to reach 2 M Max levels consistently. A few pass 2 M Max today but others have issues meeting 2 M Max due to the small volume their shorter mufflers have.
Is that a muffler or is your bike just glad to see me? These things are LONG!
The AMA is going to 2 M Max for 2012 and I have to believe most of the companies selling mufflers for AMA competition to pass 94 db will have to get larger to reach 2 M Max levels consistently. A few pass 2 M Max today but others have issues meeting 2 M Max due to the small volume their shorter mufflers have.
The 8K 450 for the 250 class is too fast and too loud so we should replace it with an 8K 350 that's too loud, less reliable, more expensive to maintain and not fast enough in the 450 class.
The way we're headed, one day someone will invent a bike that size for size makes more power, handles better, weighs less, cost less, and is quieter.
The Shop
I actually like the lower sound level but it's not dramatically lower. Just doesn't have that painful edge if you are up close when they go by. It's not like a back-firing, rev-limiting four-stroke is a thing of beauty to begin with.
If you want a bitchen sound get a smoker!
Newer go the point with loud bikes, but I newer got Harley riders either, I guess some needs to compensate for something.
With that being said, I've ridden motorcycles all of my life and would WAAAAY rather hear a Harley go down the street than have to listen to the kids who gather in the woods a half mile from my house on their 4strokes for 3-4 hrs everyday. If it bothers me, imagine how the neighbors who hate motorcycles to begin with feel. I'm all for quieter bikes but not the higher pricetag that's sure to come with them.
I'm all for having stricter limits at local tracks and OHV parks. 94db, 92db, whatever, make it quieter!
Making it strict at the top level isn't going to change shit guys.... Everything BELOW that is where it counts.
Pit Row
Good responses in this thread. For sure the USGP bikes didn't sound like vacuum cleaners plus I don't expect exhaust retail prices to go up further becuase of 2 M Max. The people who have to go bigger to comply can't price themselves out of this market since some their competitors like FMF already comply today with existing technology.
FMF with their 4.1 RCT and Megabomb/Powerbomb combo pass 2 M Max easily.
Dr Sweden....I like that story!
reded-I feel you brother RE:if it bothers me imagine how..........
The GP bikes are NOT that quiet, a 'hoover' is an exaggeration of dramatic proportions - they still pop, bang and rasp loudly enough so you'll still get your manly fix of loud engines.
Obnoxiously loud exhausts are the cancer of our sport, over here in Europe especially. Bringing the GP/AMA technical specs inline is nothing but a good thing for the fans and the teams - not only will the knock on effect help reduce the threat of track closures for all of us, it also allows for a much easier GP/AMA cross over when the occasions arise.
Motocross is peculiar in that the bike you buy off the showroom floor is essentially what Chad Reed rides and that's not the case in F1 or Nascar. It means the manufacturers make the standard bikes ready for top level racing and therefore if the sound level there is high the standard bikes will be ready for it. likewise if the DB level at the races is lowered the std bikes will come ready for that too. There will be no point in aftermarket pipe manufacturers building high DB systems that can never be competed with. This is the reason why I believe the top down regulations do and will work in motocross.
Nothing like seeing a fast guy ripping it up on a beat up sand track while riding a quiet bike. The others go up an down on their loads bikes, revs them up over 100 db on the small straights while the faster guys just surf on top of it all on low rev...
Makes me tic!
Da Rock, yeah, I'm a supporter of the cause, and I walk the talk!
I walked over the bridge at Glen Helen and the Speakers were so loud I had to cover my ears, won't this cause land closures too ?
The speakers will cause land closures when dirt bike enthusiasts begin running car stereo dB tests for hours on end while inside riding areas.
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