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10/28/2010 7:04pm
10/28/2010 7:04pm
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2/1/2013 4:06pm
Check this site out it has Chinese P.o.s bikes advertising them as yamaha, Honda etc. Is this legal?
http://www.bigchina.eu/company/category/7817/613
http://www.bigchina.eu/company/category/7817/613
Ha ha ha ha
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Snowcrossing on the Shineray.
Why do Japanese people eat sushi?
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Cause they're too busy building cars to cook the fish!
Now, most of the manufacturers seem to cover themselves in the branding I guess as a leftover from that relationship, even all the bike shops are called Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha, but the bikes are all rubbish.
But I'm sure most of the new players, like those bikes at the top have no relationship. The Jap's should sue them out of it!
About that Shineray 250f, It has an advertised power of 28HP, yet the engines that come off the production line typically fall into a range of anywhere between 23 - 28HP. That's a whole lot of power to lose in the assembly! And I heard this out of the mouth from one of the engineers while at the Shineray factory. Worst bike I have ever ridden hands down, it weighs over 120kg dry! Or maybe I should say 265lb for this board
Pit Row
2500.00?
hmmmmmm.
There is all kinds of copying going on in Asia, and it's not just moto. If you go to Singapore, you can buy copies of all kinds of things in shopping centers. I went to a DVD store where they had copies of movies, with fake looking covers made on a color copier. Camera stores are a trip.
If someone could teach the Chinese about quality and support, they could help build a strong alternative to Jap bikes. The Chinese are about where the Japs were in the 1960s.
I always wondered if some top moto mechanics that got left out of the economic crunch would end up in China to help them get things sorted out.
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And it's not like they don't want to learn better techniques, it's just with how big the Chinese market is, and how little the customers care about the product, there is no desire for the manufacturers to improve. I live in a city called Chongqing where they produce over 8million bikes annually, and they are all relatively rubbish. But they are very cheap, and that's all the consumers care about.
In saying that, I work as an engineer in the moto industry, and we work with a Chinese manufacturer. One of the selling points we made to them was that we could work together in the future to upskill their engineers and teach them the levels of quality required outside of the Asian and South American markets they target.
Add to that the rate that Chinese car firms are trying to snap up others, they are going to get the technology soon, it's whether or not they choose to use it, or keep on doing what they're doing. Either way, they are making buckets of cash.
And MXEditor, if I didn't already have to use a VPN to read vital I'm pretty sure you would have just got the website blocked
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