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10/4/2017 11:50 AM

http://www.dirtrider.com/2018-450-mx-shootout

Just posted today. What stood out to me is that the Husky finished last. I own KTMs and have never ridden a Husky. Are they really that different that they should finish so far apart in a shootout? I recall MXA stating that anyone who rates them vastly differently is nuts. Or is this just a testament to how close the bikes actually are, with all of them being very, very good?

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10/4/2017 11:59 AM

Seems like a joke to me. Best shifting, best feel, best lightweight feeling, best cornering, get the hell out of here everyone is so Honda loyal it's nuts.

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10/4/2017 12:03 PM
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yz133rider wrote:

Seems like a joke to me. Best shifting, best feel, best lightweight feeling, best cornering, get the hell out of here everyone is so Honda loyal it's nuts.

Ride one. They are very good. And I'm not Honda loyal. Coming off a 16 ktm.
Edit; you had a 17 honda correct?

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10/4/2017 12:10 PM

That shoutout pales in comparison to Vital..

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10/4/2017 12:31 PM

Keefer tested shootout podcast, only shootout you need.

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10/4/2017 12:34 PM

Joe512 wrote:

Keefer tested shootout podcast, only shootout you need.

I just cannot get into listening to something for 2 hours when I can read more information in under a half hour.

Jason Anderson FTW

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10/4/2017 12:51 PM

I know I told myself after my 09 kxf450 and 14 Yamaha 450 that I would never ever buy a 450 again. But the Honda is certainly peaking my interest for next season.

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10/4/2017 12:52 PM

Joe512 wrote:

Keefer tested shootout podcast, only shootout you need.

BobPA wrote:

I just cannot get into listening to something for 2 hours when I can read more information in under a half hour.

I'll save you even more time then. They are all good. Honda barely beats the KTM/Husky in almost everyone's shootout so far. Buy whatever bike your best local dealer sells and will help you with.

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10/4/2017 1:48 PM

Joe512 wrote:

Keefer tested shootout podcast, only shootout you need.

BobPA wrote:

I just cannot get into listening to something for 2 hours when I can read more information in under a half hour.

TheLsho wrote:

I'll save you even more time then. They are all good. Honda barely beats the KTM/Husky in almost everyone's shootout so far. Buy whatever bike your best local dealer sells and will help you with.

And the Yamaha tied with the Husky for 3rd in the Keefer shootout. All of these bikes are so good and you can make yourself comfortable on any of them.

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10/4/2017 4:45 PM

yz133rider wrote:

Seems like a joke to me. Best shifting, best feel, best lightweight feeling, best cornering, get the hell out of here everyone is so Honda loyal it's nuts.

Come on. Honda has flat out been low on the list for years and now when it wins you say it's a joke and biased.

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10/4/2017 4:52 PM

Joe512 wrote:

Keefer tested shootout podcast, only shootout you need.

Bingo.

Best all around shootout hands down.

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10/4/2017 5:44 PM
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Joe512 wrote:

Keefer tested shootout podcast, only shootout you need.

BobPA wrote:

I just cannot get into listening to something for 2 hours when I can read more information in under a half hour.

In the first 10 minuteish he goes over the overall results and then breaks it down and interviews the testers.

So same 30 minutes plus you can do something else like your air filter while you are listening.

Pretty negative comment for not even listening to make the comment you made.

"Who cares about what other people think"

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10/4/2017 5:45 PM
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Awesome.....kawasaki wins again! Dude Honda can't even finish 2 motos......

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10/4/2017 5:46 PM

yz133rider wrote:

Seems like a joke to me. Best shifting, best feel, best lightweight feeling, best cornering, get the hell out of here everyone is so Honda loyal it's nuts.

Dan-The-Man wrote:

Come on. Honda has flat out been low on the list for years and now when it wins you say it's a joke and biased.

No joke Honda is offering contingency cash to each tester for shootout placement....(8

"Who cares about what other people think"

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10/4/2017 5:53 PM
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yz133rider wrote:

Seems like a joke to me. Best shifting, best feel, best lightweight feeling, best cornering, get the hell out of here everyone is so Honda loyal it's nuts.

Dan-The-Man wrote:

Come on. Honda has flat out been low on the list for years and now when it wins you say it's a joke and biased.

Myke wrote:

No joke Honda is offering contingency cash to each tester for shootout placement....(8

They like hondas because they are lazy and Honda has electric start!

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10/4/2017 5:55 PM

where can one find a link to this podcast?

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10/4/2017 6:04 PM

Disclose the ad revenue they get.

And where is Alta in this. Sorry. This shootout is incomplete without it.

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10/4/2017 6:09 PM

Myke wrote:

In the first 10 minuteish he goes over the overall results and then breaks it down and interviews the testers.

So same 30 minutes plus you can do something else like your air filter while you are listening.

Pretty negative comment for not even listening to make the comment you made.

I am so sorry that I do not like listening to podcasts, not just Keefers....

Jason Anderson FTW

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10/4/2017 6:35 PM

Wow the Husqvarna really sucks

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10/4/2017 6:54 PM

TXDirt wrote:

Disclose the ad revenue they get.

And where is Alta in this. Sorry. This shootout is incomplete without it.

450 shootout.

Alta is not

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10/4/2017 6:54 PM

motoarmageddon wrote:

Wow the Husqvarna really sucks

Does it really? The KTM doesn't and it's pretty much the same.

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10/4/2017 7:20 PM

"no way Honda can win, it has two pipes!" says the goons on this site

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10/4/2017 7:35 PM

Dirtrider still in business?

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10/4/2017 7:36 PM
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Swapped bikes with my boy a while back. Crf450 vs 450sx... miraculously he still smoked me even tho I had a weight and power advantage while riding his kayteemm. How tho?!

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10/4/2017 7:52 PM
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Squitlege wrote:

Swapped bikes with my boy a while back. Crf450 vs 450sx... miraculously he still smoked me even tho I had a weight and power advantage while riding his kayteemm. How tho?!

A squid is still a squid, sorry to say.

Which one were YOU quicker/more comfortable on? Is the question.

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10/4/2017 9:05 PM

TXDirt wrote:

Disclose the ad revenue they get.

And where is Alta in this. Sorry. This shootout is incomplete without it.

As far as I'm aware, Honda only spends with one core-Motocross media outlet in the past few years and that's been Racer X. They've never spent a dime with Vital since we started....

We've been included in RFPs (request for proposals) but have never gotten an ad deal from any of those.

As for the Alta, it's designed to be a 250F competitor, not a 450. Having ridden an Alta, it would get dead last in a 450 Shootout, simple.

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10/4/2017 9:09 PM

Squitlege wrote:

Swapped bikes with my boy a while back. Crf450 vs 450sx... miraculously he still smoked me even tho I had a weight and power advantage while riding his kayteemm. How tho?!

tobz wrote:

A squid is still a squid, sorry to say.

Which one were YOU quicker/more comfortable on? Is the question.

Bro, I felt way more comfortable on the one that the internet said was better. 100% stamped, hard.

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10/4/2017 9:16 PM

TXDirt wrote:

Disclose the ad revenue they get.

And where is Alta in this. Sorry. This shootout is incomplete without it.

ML512 wrote:

As far as I'm aware, Honda only spends with one core-Motocross media outlet in the past few years and that's been Racer X. They've never spent a dime with Vital since we started....

We've been included in RFPs (request for proposals) but have never gotten an ad deal from any of those.

As for the Alta, it's designed to be a 250F competitor, not a 450. Having ridden an Alta, it would get dead last in a 450 Shootout, simple.

Vitards dont believe facts ML....

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10/4/2017 9:24 PM

Myke wrote:

No joke Honda is offering contingency cash to each tester for shootout placement....(8

You have got to be kidding me...

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10/4/2017 9:33 PM

Dan-The-Man wrote:

Come on. Honda has flat out been low on the list for years and now when it wins you say it's a joke and biased.

Myke wrote:

No joke Honda is offering contingency cash to each tester for shootout placement....(8

BobPA wrote:

You have got to be kidding me...

I take it that he was kidding. Or it's funny how Honda started offering said contingency cash when they improved their bike.