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Please change the rule to no longer allow passing on a yellow. If you think about how dumb...I mean impractical is a caution flag where the riders are still allowed to battle for position? If I had just crashed on a SX track I would prefer my competitors to be holding their position while I remount and/or get out of harms way.
Do you agree or disagree? MXA's Monday web recap touched upon this subject and mentioned the need for a rule change. While I don't agree with MXA on combining the East West series (I'm oppose the notion strongly) I am on the same page with MXA on changing the present illogical yellow flag policy.
Do you agree or disagree? MXA's Monday web recap touched upon this subject and mentioned the need for a rule change. While I don't agree with MXA on combining the East West series (I'm oppose the notion strongly) I am on the same page with MXA on changing the present illogical yellow flag policy.
Passing when the yellow flag is out should not be allowed.
The Shop
I like y'alls points but respectively disagree.
Maybe introduce more subtle changes such as: proper flagging positions, more lights and additional flaggers when needed, also flagging training, seminar etc. create a team of flaggers who are paid and are part of track crew week to week. One thing I am strongly in favor of is guys in the mains who are rolling around not keeping a race pace or trying to keep pace should be black flagged. This happens more than it should, sometimes early in the race and is a danger to everyone out there.
I think it could work, but maybe make the mains 25 and 20 laps or timed mains + 2 laps or something
Don't instill in up and coming racers they can't pass on yellow but turn pro you can pass on a yellow. NASCAR changed their policy over safety concerns a few years ago that had previously allowed drivers to race to the finish line then begin their yellow.
Huck great point since the yellow flags fly pretty much all the time in both main events and we certainly don't want to limit passing.
Trav138-You bring up a touchy subject but I agree with you. If backmarkers are circulating doing the jumps then let them get track experience but if they start rolling the jumps and/or their lap times drop off significantly then by all means black flag them. There's a race going on and if you are rolling the jumps you aren't racing IMO
Stephane Roncada in 2009 said what I am saying SEVEN years later
http://m.vitalmx.com/forums/MotoRelated,20/Passing-under-Yellow,373851
I now understand why the rules are different in amateur and pros. Pros are much more adept at handling curveballs on the track so a yellow for a tuff block on the track is a head up not a signal to stop racing. It is still a conundrum because the reality is the racers won't back off for fear of being passed. This is above my pay grade and I will let people smarter than me figure this one out or keep it the same.
The ONLY thing I am sure of is I am glad I don't have to make these decisions......but about those timed mains...can we agree it is past time to have a 15 minute 250 main and a 20 minute 450 main? We could stop talking about short lap times and get back to important topics....like upper body protection. :-)
Waving no pass
Stationary pass
At amatuer arenacross races ive done, yellow means pass with caution, so im not sure how it would be viewed that amateur racing is different from pros (while racing under the same management)
AMA/Feld whoever is preparing these guys seem to be dropping the ball... I don't want to beat up the sport or powers that be. BUT did anyone else see the red flag incident? Finish line has red flag, guy goes down over the finish line coming up short. So as a caution flagger at the finish line pulls out the GREEN flag... Uh. He then proceeds to have the red flag up, AND the green flag. How in the hell are the riders supposed to know whats going on? I get that he didn't have a yellow flag and someone eventually ran over to give him one, but that's kind of my point, how unprepared... why wouldn't there be a yellow flag there for him to grab? How dangerous could that have been coming out of the corner looking up to see the green flag pinning it, and then noticing the red flag late and landing on anyone of the riders that are checking up on the backside of the finish line...
Pit Row
Take for example, the Dungey penalty two races ago. I don't think the red cross flag should have been out. The officials refuse to use judgement in leveraging penalties, and in that case, nothing was gained or lost by what Dungey did. So I disagree with any penalty. If you could tell that Dungey looked at the flag before committing, then went ahead and hucked the jump, then I could see that it was a intentional violation of the rule, but from Dungey's reaction, you could tell he didn't see the flag until he was committed.
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