Coop on riding the 450

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8/21/2015 7:26pm Edited Date/Time 8/22/2015 8:10pm
You’re out here at Pala Raceway doing some testing aboard a 450. Obviously you’re a 250 guy, so has the transition been tough for you or has it been fairly easy to become acquainted with the bigger bike?

Everything does take time, but I rode it last week and I even tested during the weekend off, so I’m putting in the necessary time to get used to the bike. Honestly, though, I felt comfortable on it right away. I think my style of riding suits a 450 really well, so as of right now, the plan for me is to get myself a little stronger. Yeah, it’s a lot different than a 250, but I enjoy the amount of power and I kind of feel like it’s a better version of a 250. But, yeah, I enjoy it.

http://motocross.transworld.net/news/cooper-webb-a-new-challenge/#DSJDyzrpCICc0Yci.97
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8/21/2015 7:34pm
I can't wait to see him on the 450!

The MXDN might be a tough place to debut, but when he gets on it permanently he is going to be awesome to watch.
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8/21/2015 7:44pm
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I can't wait to see him on the 450! The MXDN might be a tough place to debut, but when he gets on it permanently he...
I can't wait to see him on the 450!

The MXDN might be a tough place to debut, but when he gets on it permanently he is going to be awesome to watch.
I just hope he can hold his own at the MXDN, all we need is consistency from him. The French team will be tough to beat, but it's doable.
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8/21/2015 8:04pm
I honestly think webb is going to be our stand out performer over there. The kid bleeds red white and blue and is gonna hang it out
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8/21/2015 8:12pm
Cooper Webb is bringing it..... he'll line us up for MXDN victory and will die trying. Rooting for our fellas

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8/21/2015 8:29pm
i'd rather see jmart on the 450 than cooper. i think martins riding style is easier to translate to the 450 than coopers aggressive riding style but i hope they kick some ass anyways.
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8/21/2015 8:49pm
Shows you how old I am. I thought you were talking about Guy Cooper testing for the legends race tomorrow!
Damn it ok go kick some Euro Ass Cooper ;-)
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8/21/2015 8:52pm
There definitely is a different fitness factor involved when jumping from a 250 to a 450. I know Coop's probably in great shape right now , but he'll need every bit of energy he can muster to not fade around the 20 min mark. Get tired and that's where mistakes happen. Give em' hell Cooper!
8/21/2015 8:55pm
Shows you how old I am. I thought you were talking about Guy Cooper testing for the legends race tomorrow! Damn it ok go kick some...
Shows you how old I am. I thought you were talking about Guy Cooper testing for the legends race tomorrow!
Damn it ok go kick some Euro Ass Cooper ;-)
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8/21/2015 9:29pm
Coop has the right attitude for MXDN. I'm more worried about Martin. Martin is cool, calm and calculated like dunge. MXDN needs a more go for broke style. Checkers or wreckers. It's one race.
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8/21/2015 10:23pm
Carlos Z wrote:
Coop has the right attitude for MXDN. I'm more worried about Martin. Martin is cool, calm and calculated like dunge. MXDN needs a more go for...
Coop has the right attitude for MXDN. I'm more worried about Martin. Martin is cool, calm and calculated like dunge. MXDN needs a more go for broke style. Checkers or wreckers. It's one race.
There are certain guys who are cool under pressure and just knew how to get it done when it really counts. Villopoto comes to mind.

On the other hand, I think Martin will be an asset to the team in the coming years. He doesn't get flustered when things don't go his way, he just rides hard and comes from the back of the pack up to the podium in the laps he has to work with.

We've seen in the past few races that Webb occasionally gets flustered when he's pissed off. When he get's close, he wants to beat Marvin so bad because he's pissed off at the guy. A couple of times he's made mistakes. I think one was a moto at Unadilla and the other was at the Utah race. He'll probably figure out the mental part of it with experience.
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8/21/2015 10:28pm
I was totally expecting this to be about Guy Cooper and riding a 450 for the legends race.
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8/22/2015 5:02am Edited Date/Time 8/22/2015 5:03am
Maybe, I insist on the maybe, it could have better to put him in the MX1 category (to try to do like Dungey in 2009). Although it may be more challenging speed-wise to run the MX1-MX2 then the MX1-MX3 motos, fitness-wise it could have been better. Indeed, doing back to back motos for his first 450 race is gonna be rough, he may win the MX2-MX3 moto but I do not think he may be able to catch a top 5 in his second moto. I do not question his fitness at all, I just say pushing to the limits 70hp during 1h15 with only a 30(45?) minutes half time is a tough introduction for his arms and hands !
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8/22/2015 7:37am Edited Date/Time 8/22/2015 7:43am
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Maybe, I insist on the maybe, it could have better to put him in the MX1 category (to try to do like Dungey in 2009). Although...
Maybe, I insist on the maybe, it could have better to put him in the MX1 category (to try to do like Dungey in 2009). Although it may be more challenging speed-wise to run the MX1-MX2 then the MX1-MX3 motos, fitness-wise it could have been better. Indeed, doing back to back motos for his first 450 race is gonna be rough, he may win the MX2-MX3 moto but I do not think he may be able to catch a top 5 in his second moto. I do not question his fitness at all, I just say pushing to the limits 70hp during 1h15 with only a 30(45?) minutes half time is a tough introduction for his arms and hands !
Good point.

My thinking was to let him race his 250 or put him on a bored 250F to meet the minimum MXGP class displacement rules; 270cc. Basically let him ride what he's been racing very successfully on. After all is STAR able to give him a similar setup as what JGR's developed over many, many years? And while Barcia has looked pretty good on the 450 this year, there's been alot of fast guys in the 450 class missing so he's naturally moved up in the standings. He's been on that bike many months to get to where he's at now. I question whether the YZ450F may still have "issues" for the fast guys and I also don't feel that the modern 250f's give up anything to the 450's on many tracks. While the 450's may jump out front at the start I think Webb's shown he's got the moves to get around rolling 450 roadblocks. Plus the tracks surely going to be get beat up which I think will favor a good 250 rider like Webb.
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8/22/2015 7:55am
I saw a report that Team USA will all race the Glen Helen USGP so that will give Webb a good shakedown race on the 450 to see where he stands against good competition.
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8/22/2015 10:24am
DownSouth wrote:
I saw a report that Team USA will all race the Glen Helen USGP so that will give Webb a good shakedown race on the 450...
I saw a report that Team USA will all race the Glen Helen USGP so that will give Webb a good shakedown race on the 450 to see where he stands against good competition.
wow..that would be awesome
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DownSouth wrote:
I saw a report that Team USA will all race the Glen Helen USGP so that will give Webb a good shakedown race on the 450...
I saw a report that Team USA will all race the Glen Helen USGP so that will give Webb a good shakedown race on the 450 to see where he stands against good competition.
I think he will be fast at the MXGP. It will be very cool to see how he stacks up against the big boys.
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8/22/2015 12:19pm
Don't forget there is still alot of time till MXoN for Webb to get comfortable on the 450.
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8/22/2015 6:52pm
Anyone heard if he's ok, he was holding his arm when after he over scrubbed and crashed.
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Anyone heard if he's ok, he was holding his arm when after he over scrubbed and crashed.
I'm curious as well

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