CP 377 | Supercross 2015

bd
Profile picture for user bd
Posts
5976
Joined
4/6/2007
Location
Las Vegas, NV US
bd
Edited Date/Time 1/3/2015 5:00pm
Since CP377 has not been in the states racing for 3+ years, can he race 250F regional Supercross? Those with insight to the rules, please advise. If so, he is an instant contendar.

|
DownSouth
Profile picture for user DownSouth
Posts
9635
Joined
7/5/2008
Location
Tallapoosa, GA US
DownSouth 9/8/2014 1:17pm
9/8/2014 1:17pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2014 1:23pm
Pourcel already won two 250 SX championships in 2009 & 2010. He is not eligible for that class anymore in SX.

From the 2014 rulebook:

3. After a rider wins a second Championship, in either region, the rider will be ineligible for the 250SX class, regardless of points or number of years in class.

The Shop

See All »
JeepnMike
Profile picture for user JeepnMike
Posts
2528
Joined
10/18/2012
Location
Enumclaw, WA US
JeepnMike 9/8/2014 1:46pm
9/8/2014 1:46pm
If I was picking purely looking for results, I would have picked Pourcel to ride along Millsaps before Hahn.
burn1986
Profile picture for user burn1986
Posts
9786
Joined
4/16/2010
Location
bossier city, LA US
Fantasy
3311th
burn1986 9/8/2014 1:59pm
9/8/2014 1:59pm
So what does CP have lined up for 2015? I'm sure there's another thread on this somewhere, so disregard if it's already been covered.
StartedTooLate 9/8/2014 1:59pm
9/8/2014 1:59pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2014 2:04pm
JeepnMike wrote:
If I was picking purely looking for results, I would have picked Pourcel to ride along Millsaps before Hahn.
CP has a reputation of being difficult to work with, and handling things in an unprofessional manner. I am not saying that reputation is justified, but that is the vibe. So, what team manager is going to stick his neck out to put CP on his team?

As for Factory Kawi, they have a history of selecting 2nds rider that maximizes their chance of winning the title. That means someone who will support and get along well with the primary rider. It does NOT mean picking the guy they expect to finish highest in the points. Kawi would rather go 1-8 in the SX standings than 2-5. Wil is a great compliment to Davi. They are buds and team chemistry will be great. CP is not a championship contender, so what purpose would he serve on Factory Kawi in SX?

From those standpoints CP is NOT a good choice. There are also issue of complimentary sponsors. There are legitimate reasons that CP does not have a 450 SX ride with a top team, and none of them have anything to do with team managers not being as smart as you.
dazzlindino 9/8/2014 2:34pm
9/8/2014 2:34pm
StartedTooLate wrote:
CP has a reputation of being difficult to work with, and handling things in an unprofessional manner. I am not saying that reputation is justified, but...
CP has a reputation of being difficult to work with, and handling things in an unprofessional manner. I am not saying that reputation is justified, but that is the vibe. So, what team manager is going to stick his neck out to put CP on his team?

As for Factory Kawi, they have a history of selecting 2nds rider that maximizes their chance of winning the title. That means someone who will support and get along well with the primary rider. It does NOT mean picking the guy they expect to finish highest in the points. Kawi would rather go 1-8 in the SX standings than 2-5. Wil is a great compliment to Davi. They are buds and team chemistry will be great. CP is not a championship contender, so what purpose would he serve on Factory Kawi in SX?

From those standpoints CP is NOT a good choice. There are also issue of complimentary sponsors. There are legitimate reasons that CP does not have a 450 SX ride with a top team, and none of them have anything to do with team managers not being as smart as you.
Did Mitch say he was hard to work with?
HenryA
Profile picture for user HenryA
Posts
3789
Joined
12/29/2011
Location
Stockholm SE
HenryA 9/8/2014 3:14pm
9/8/2014 3:14pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2014 3:36pm
Someone needs to sign this dude ASAP.
Park Boys
Profile picture for user Park Boys
Posts
3581
Joined
3/23/2012
Location
MH US
Fantasy
39th
Park Boys 9/8/2014 3:19pm
9/8/2014 3:19pm
If CP377 got a ride and won a race in SX, which I think he is better at then MX I would not be surprised at all.
Sully22
Profile picture for user Sully22
Posts
2019
Joined
9/9/2009
Location
NV US
Sully22 9/8/2014 3:48pm
9/8/2014 3:48pm
StartedTooLate wrote:
CP has a reputation of being difficult to work with, and handling things in an unprofessional manner. I am not saying that reputation is justified, but...
CP has a reputation of being difficult to work with, and handling things in an unprofessional manner. I am not saying that reputation is justified, but that is the vibe. So, what team manager is going to stick his neck out to put CP on his team?

As for Factory Kawi, they have a history of selecting 2nds rider that maximizes their chance of winning the title. That means someone who will support and get along well with the primary rider. It does NOT mean picking the guy they expect to finish highest in the points. Kawi would rather go 1-8 in the SX standings than 2-5. Wil is a great compliment to Davi. They are buds and team chemistry will be great. CP is not a championship contender, so what purpose would he serve on Factory Kawi in SX?

From those standpoints CP is NOT a good choice. There are also issue of complimentary sponsors. There are legitimate reasons that CP does not have a 450 SX ride with a top team, and none of them have anything to do with team managers not being as smart as you.
dazzlindino wrote:
Did Mitch say he was hard to work with?
Mitch has done nothing but speak highly of CP...
yak651
Profile picture for user yak651
Posts
6705
Joined
8/26/2006
Location
Appleton, WI US
Fantasy
192nd
yak651 9/8/2014 4:15pm
9/8/2014 4:15pm
StartedTooLate wrote:
CP has a reputation of being difficult to work with, and handling things in an unprofessional manner. I am not saying that reputation is justified, but...
CP has a reputation of being difficult to work with, and handling things in an unprofessional manner. I am not saying that reputation is justified, but that is the vibe. So, what team manager is going to stick his neck out to put CP on his team?

As for Factory Kawi, they have a history of selecting 2nds rider that maximizes their chance of winning the title. That means someone who will support and get along well with the primary rider. It does NOT mean picking the guy they expect to finish highest in the points. Kawi would rather go 1-8 in the SX standings than 2-5. Wil is a great compliment to Davi. They are buds and team chemistry will be great. CP is not a championship contender, so what purpose would he serve on Factory Kawi in SX?

From those standpoints CP is NOT a good choice. There are also issue of complimentary sponsors. There are legitimate reasons that CP does not have a 450 SX ride with a top team, and none of them have anything to do with team managers not being as smart as you.
Not a championship contender? I would say he has as good a shot of a championship as Davi. He doesn't ride over his head and SX races would jive well with his fitness.
albythizzle
Profile picture for user albythizzle
Posts
74
Joined
7/21/2014
Location
Nashville, TN US
albythizzle 9/8/2014 4:37pm
9/8/2014 4:37pm
Just IMO I kind of view this guy as a huge gamble, yeah he is fast but he has to race the 450 class in sx. Also, just from his past him going to new teams are a hit or miss. Either, he would kill it for you and give you great PR, or give up a few laps in and quit your team. That would be a lot of money invested for a maybe, with who all is still have no deals in the 450 class. I just don't see them grabbing him. I hope he races sx, I am interested to see him on a 450.
bd
Profile picture for user bd
Posts
5976
Joined
4/6/2007
Location
Las Vegas, NV US
bd 9/8/2014 4:39pm
9/8/2014 4:39pm
dazzlindino wrote:
CP will be the qualifier n heat race champ in 15' .....
Welcome to Supercross. He would kill a 15 lap main event. Wink
bd
Profile picture for user bd
Posts
5976
Joined
4/6/2007
Location
Las Vegas, NV US
bd 9/8/2014 4:40pm
9/8/2014 4:40pm
Park Boys wrote:
If CP377 got a ride and won a race in SX, which I think he is better at then MX I would not be surprised at...
If CP377 got a ride and won a race in SX, which I think he is better at then MX I would not be surprised at all.
x2
tprice07
Profile picture for user tprice07
Posts
2373
Joined
9/29/2009
Location
Fort Dodge, IA US
tprice07 9/8/2014 4:45pm
9/8/2014 4:45pm
Is there anything saying he won't ride for his current team on a 450? If not I don't see why Reed wouldn't pick him up. He would be a championship contender over Grant I would imagine. Nothing against Grant the guy has a ton of talent. If Grant could put all the pieces together he would be winning. But the same is true of many riders nowadays.

Pit Row

See All »
Sir Roostsalot 9/8/2014 5:20pm
9/8/2014 5:20pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2014 5:21pm
I could be wrong, I thought I was once but I was mistaken, but hasn't he said many times that the only team he really wants to race for is Pro Circuit? It is for this reason I believe he will be on a PC 450 next season.
GuyB
Profile picture for user GuyB
Posts
35700
Joined
7/10/2006
Location
Aliso Viejo, CA US
Fantasy
1215th
GuyB 9/8/2014 5:48pm
9/8/2014 5:48pm
Sir Roostsalot wrote:
I could be wrong, I thought I was once but I was mistaken, but hasn't he said many times that the only team he really wants...
I could be wrong, I thought I was once but I was mistaken, but hasn't he said many times that the only team he really wants to race for is Pro Circuit? It is for this reason I believe he will be on a PC 450 next season.


mxdude105
Profile picture for user mxdude105
Posts
628
Joined
12/5/2011
Location
MD US
mxdude105 9/8/2014 5:59pm
9/8/2014 5:59pm
JeepnMike wrote:
If I was picking purely looking for results, I would have picked Pourcel to ride along Millsaps before Hahn.
I would have picked him before Millsaps. Better on a 250, better outdoors, multi-time regional SX champ.
Sir Roostsalot 9/8/2014 5:59pm
9/8/2014 5:59pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2014 6:02pm
GuyB wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/09/08/64665/s1200_090614forumtee.jpg[/img]


Does this mean I'm right and I win a shirt? But seriously, he was on Kawasaki's from 2004 to 2007 in Europe, and also 2009 to 2010 with success and I remember him saying in an interview that signing with PC was the realization of a lifelong dream for him.
visser62
Profile picture for user visser62
Posts
2171
Joined
5/2/2013
Location
Seattle, WA US
visser62 9/8/2014 6:23pm
9/8/2014 6:23pm
GuyB wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/09/08/64665/s1200_090614forumtee.jpg[/img]


Sir Roostsalot wrote:
Does this mean I'm right and I win a shirt? But seriously, he was on Kawasaki's from 2004 to 2007 in Europe, and also 2009 to...
Does this mean I'm right and I win a shirt? But seriously, he was on Kawasaki's from 2004 to 2007 in Europe, and also 2009 to 2010 with success and I remember him saying in an interview that signing with PC was the realization of a lifelong dream for him.
He just raced an entire series on Valli Yamaha.
RbR
Profile picture for user RbR
Posts
1068
Joined
12/9/2011
Location
Saint Paul, MN US
RbR 9/8/2014 6:24pm
9/8/2014 6:24pm
GuyB wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/09/08/64665/s1200_090614forumtee.jpg[/img]


Sir Roostsalot wrote:
Does this mean I'm right and I win a shirt? But seriously, he was on Kawasaki's from 2004 to 2007 in Europe, and also 2009 to...
Does this mean I'm right and I win a shirt? But seriously, he was on Kawasaki's from 2004 to 2007 in Europe, and also 2009 to 2010 with success and I remember him saying in an interview that signing with PC was the realization of a lifelong dream for him.
You guys need to quit teasing ... if you know something, spit it out all ready! Pourcel on a PC450 would be a threat for wins. His riding style is pure JMB ... and we know what that produced.
berno929
Profile picture for user berno929
Posts
859
Joined
9/29/2009
Location
CA
Fantasy
2519th
berno929 9/8/2014 6:36pm
9/8/2014 6:36pm
Pourcel on a PC 450 would be awesome. I read PC was looking to add a 5th guy but no potential 250 winners are available... could make sense...

Maybe it's in Kawasaki's hands... Pourcel on PC or Grant on TwoTwo?
dazzlindino 9/8/2014 6:52pm
9/8/2014 6:52pm
dazzlindino wrote:
CP will be the qualifier n heat race champ in 15' .....
bd wrote:
Welcome to Supercross. He would kill a 15 lap main event. Wink
He will kill 20 lappers too!
dazzlindino 9/8/2014 6:54pm
9/8/2014 6:54pm
CP trained all summer for sx....
fastest lap in almost every practice....
holeshots.....
led and raced hard.....
Sir Roostsalot 9/8/2014 6:58pm
9/8/2014 6:58pm
Look at it this way: how many 250 titles does PC have? Most of us can't count that high and the record books don't go back that far. How many 450 titles does PC have? Right! Who had faith in CP 6 years ago and gave him a chance? Right! Who delivered? Right! If PC is going to win a 450SX title who would they sign? Right! Talk about crafty!

Post a reply to: CP 377 | Supercross 2015