Bud Feldkamp's version of why no Glen Helen National

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Edited Date/Time 7/29/2013 8:42pm
I'm not sure if this gibes completely with what we already know, or not...I'd just like to see the National return to Glen Helen.

Bud Felkamp breaks his silence
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I predict a...



in 3... 2... 1...
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Regis 7/28/2013 6:33pm
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isn't this old news?
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FreshTopEnd 7/28/2013 6:35pm
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Why does this MXA interview keep getting replayed as if it's new?

It first showed up almost a year ago, and has been retreaded a couple times since. Here's the link to when it originally came up in September 2012.

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Bud-Feldcamp-breaks-silence-about-the-nationals,1244338?page=1

I'd certainly like to see the races back there, but the track and the management are two different issues.
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Interesting read. Regardless of who did/said whatever, I wish Glen Helen and Coombs would come to an agreement to put GH back on the series schedule. The place is epic. Looking at GH compared to what has ultimately replaced it (Elsinore), its such a shame to have an awesome racecourse replaced by a thrown together outdoor-supercross track.

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tombugg 7/28/2013 6:39pm
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Good read, thanks for posting.
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mxdude105 wrote:
Interesting read. Regardless of who did/said whatever, I wish Glen Helen and Coombs would come to an agreement to put GH back on the series schedule...
Interesting read. Regardless of who did/said whatever, I wish Glen Helen and Coombs would come to an agreement to put GH back on the series schedule. The place is epic. Looking at GH compared to what has ultimately replaced it (Elsinore), its such a shame to have an awesome racecourse replaced by a thrown together outdoor-supercross track.
although I live in norcal, ten fo on that biatch!!
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DocMarten 7/28/2013 6:40pm
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Regis wrote:
isn't this old news?
it is..this isnt on the mxa home page at all.

this is like last springs news -_-
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mxdude105 wrote:
Interesting read. Regardless of who did/said whatever, I wish Glen Helen and Coombs would come to an agreement to put GH back on the series schedule...
Interesting read. Regardless of who did/said whatever, I wish Glen Helen and Coombs would come to an agreement to put GH back on the series schedule. The place is epic. Looking at GH compared to what has ultimately replaced it (Elsinore), its such a shame to have an awesome racecourse replaced by a thrown together outdoor-supercross track.
epic to who?

the riders or the spectators?
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Haven't read it read it yet. Just wanted to say.......

Mr info in 3 , 2 , 1 ........
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Nobody wins in a pissing match
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WTF. The promoter had requirements to meet. Feldkamp refused to meet them. Promoter pulled the event. Happens in every series, and those other series play harder hardball than pro MX. STFU and move on.

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Who did DMG offer MX to?

Who did DMG WANT to do business with?

Who was DMG NOT interested in doing business with?

Those are the simple & truthful answers that resolve ALL of this.

The France family knows more about promoting racing than ANYONE in our sport.

Period.

Another thing: anyone wonder, other than me, if the folks at DMG saw more value than $2 Million for the series?
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Bauer wrote:
I'm not sure if this gibes completely with what we already know, or not...I'd just like to see the National return to Glen Helen. [url=http://motocrossactionmag.com/mobile/News/BUD-FELDKAMP-BREAKS-HIS-SILENCE-ON-WHY-GLEN-HELEN-9407.aspx]Bud Felkamp...
I'm not sure if this gibes completely with what we already know, or not...I'd just like to see the National return to Glen Helen.

Bud Felkamp breaks his silence
Yep, me too.

I use to make the trip to GH every May, from Texas, with my son and buddy. It was such an epic track and had so many great vantage points for spectating.The vibe GH creates is un-paralleled by any other track, especially Pala and Elsinore. It was the perfect track to kick off the Nationals. We haven't attended a National in California since it was pulled.

Until Glen Helen is returned to the schedule, all others are mere pretenders.

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Bauer wrote:
I'm not sure if this gibes completely with what we already know, or not...I'd just like to see the National return to Glen Helen. [url=http://motocrossactionmag.com/mobile/News/BUD-FELDKAMP-BREAKS-HIS-SILENCE-ON-WHY-GLEN-HELEN-9407.aspx]Bud Felkamp...
I'm not sure if this gibes completely with what we already know, or not...I'd just like to see the National return to Glen Helen.

Bud Felkamp breaks his silence
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Yep, me too. I use to make the trip to GH every May, from Texas, with my son and buddy. It was such an epic track...
Yep, me too.

I use to make the trip to GH every May, from Texas, with my son and buddy. It was such an epic track and had so many great vantage points for spectating.The vibe GH creates is un-paralleled by any other track, especially Pala and Elsinore. It was the perfect track to kick off the Nationals. We haven't attended a National in California since it was pulled.

Until Glen Helen is returned to the schedule, all others are mere pretenders.

Uh, OK.

Hangtown?
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I do agree with him that fan viewing should be one priority. It's nice to reward fans who show up at the race tracks.
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That track separated the men from the boys... launching off that mountain into a sea of braking bumps was INSANE! Nothing else like it.



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TeamGreen wrote:
Who did DMG offer MX to? Who did DMG WANT to do business with? Who was DMG NOT interested in doing business with? Those are the...
Who did DMG offer MX to?

Who did DMG WANT to do business with?

Who was DMG NOT interested in doing business with?

Those are the simple & truthful answers that resolve ALL of this.

The France family knows more about promoting racing than ANYONE in our sport.

Period.

Another thing: anyone wonder, other than me, if the folks at DMG saw more value than $2 Million for the series?
Would that be $2m a year or $2m for 4-5 years? If it was as they said?
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TeamGreen wrote:
Uh, OK.

Hangtown?
Sorry, but Hangtown, though epic in it's own right, is no Glen Helen!

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FreshTopEnd 7/28/2013 7:44pm
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My understanding was that the DMG AMA deal for AMA Pro Racing was $2mm per year for the whole ball of wax (I believe it was $12mm total, with additional payments made over the next five years), everything the AMA was doing through AMA Pro Racing other than SX, which the AMA already had contracted out (not sold) to whatever Feld predecessor was at the time (Clear Channel). Roger Edmonson was running the DMG side on the deal at the time and was primarily after road racing. After DMG won the bid, MXSports then dealt with DMG for rights to run the outdoors. Presumably whatever MXSports is paying DMG goes toward the DMG obligation to the AMA. But, who knows if and how the deal has been performed or restructured since.

DMG did not do very well with AMA Pro Racing for road racing, and was in a bit of shambles over time, the France's family's ultimate ownership notwithstanding. You can track that at Ulrich's Road Racing publication.

I guess I am curious is whether this article is being redistributed periodically in attempt to somehow try to put MXSports on the hot seat about getting the race back on the calendar. It's a pretty bizarre and dysfunctional way to go about it.
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Re DMG

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/first-personopinion-ama-pro-racing-at-a-crossroads-part-1/

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/first-personopinion-ama-pro-racing-at-a-crossroads-part-2/

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/first-personopinion-ama-pro-racing-at-a-crossroads-part-3/

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/first-personopinion-ama-pro-racing-at-a-crossroads-part-4/
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DonM 7/28/2013 8:12pm
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Isn't that article a little bit like MX Geoff interviewing Luongo....
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DonM wrote:
Isn't that article a little bit like MX Geoff interviewing Luongo....
Who-else tried to buy the series?
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
Why does this MXA interview keep getting replayed as if it's new? It first showed up almost a year ago, and has been retreaded a couple...
Why does this MXA interview keep getting replayed as if it's new?

It first showed up almost a year ago, and has been retreaded a couple times since. Here's the link to when it originally came up in September 2012.

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Bud-Feldcamp-breaks-silence-about-the-nationals,1244338?page=1

I'd certainly like to see the races back there, but the track and the management are two different issues.
Orange-Helmet Media Manipulation?
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...and its bad enough that MXA doesnt put a name to any article on their site, but no date either is just ridiculous! Blink
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ocscottie wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/07/28/28191/s1200_hDA027CE8.jpg[/img] ...and its bad enough that MXA doesnt put a name to any article on their site, but [b]no date[/b] either is just ridiculous! :blink:


...and its bad enough that MXA doesnt put a name to any article on their site, but no date either is just ridiculous! Blink
Ridonkulous!
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TeamGreen wrote:
Orange-Helmet Media Manipulation?
Beats me, it's not on the MXA front page of the website, so it doesn't seem like their running it again and again there. The original September 2012 was a PR piece to allow Bud to spin his borderline defamatory version of events a couple years after the fact, and after the GP's there tanked.

It struck me as odd when it popped up again a month ago, http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/DC-Good-Guy-Bad-Guy,1256519 , and it seems even odder that it came up again. Bauer's a pretty straight shooter, so maybe he just was digging into an internet search.

(EDIT: Okay, Steve's explanation that it's live linked on the GH front page explaints why it keeps showing up.)

But I don't think more of the same from Bud is going to advance the ball of getting Glen Helen back on the schedule.
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
Re DMG

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/first-personopinion-ama-pro-racing-at-a-crossroads-part-1/

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/first-personopinion-ama-pro-racing-at-a-crossroads-part-2/

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/first-personopinion-ama-pro-racing-at-a-crossroads-part-3/

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/first-personopinion-ama-pro-racing-at-a-crossroads-part-4/
another tragedy ...its honestly pitiful that ama road racing is probably the biggest joke of a series these days next to atv motocross.

what was once a world class series is the equivalent of Canadian motocross in the road racing world

id hate to see ama pro mx/sx turn out like this but with all these gay rules, making all the tracks the same, getting rid of historical tracks in favor of parking lots with dirt on them..it kind of makes me yearn for the past.
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DocMarten wrote:
another tragedy ...its honestly pitiful that ama road racing is probably the biggest joke of a series these days next to atv motocross. what was once...
another tragedy ...its honestly pitiful that ama road racing is probably the biggest joke of a series these days next to atv motocross.

what was once a world class series is the equivalent of Canadian motocross in the road racing world

id hate to see ama pro mx/sx turn out like this but with all these gay rules, making all the tracks the same, getting rid of historical tracks in favor of parking lots with dirt on them..it kind of makes me yearn for the past.
I'm not really getting the last sentence. What rules or historical tracks do you have in mind?
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and what do you have against gay rules?

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