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Advancing the notion that someone "lied" to Stewart and the Team could be a death sentence if they weren't "who they are".
That tolerance by the real power behind MX is going to fade quickly if they don't replenish the bank with more wins. Wins are the currency of the MX realm. I get that.
There is no doubt in my mind that Brooks was pissed off and grinding his teeth as Stewart let out the "lied to" idea. If he supported the "lied to" thing, he's got to be thinking he screwed up.
My thoughts about the future of this team remain valid if one and only one thing remains.
They must not quit.
People are going to shit on him and just be dicks in general to him and then go back to their buddies, crack a beer, flop onto the couch and tell them how he "Gave Larry Brooks a piece of his mind and called him an hippo fucker" and everyone will get a laugh and then grab another beer after pulling their pants up over their belly.
This is why industry people keep their mouth shut, read this shit and laugh at most all of you behind your backs, because you pretend to know everything when in fact you don't know jackshit.
The James Stewart thing is a perfect example. No rider ever discloses the true extent of their injuries for any number of reasons, but people on here just make shit up by pulling it out of their ass about James. James tried to race and it didn't work out, but he did try.
Fact is, a vast majority of you don't know jack shit about what is really going on, so you make it up and then go on wild rants and make crazy accusations, all baseless of course.
This is why riders and industry people (who do read it) laugh at you.
I don't blame them
Couldn't agree more with every word you said!
The Shop
You give the riders a chance to still be in the game with good salaries/contracts and yet they
still are able to get some time off to enjoy their lives, family's,friends and other things in life.
You only live once and there is alot more to life then just working 24/7 365 days a year.
What are yours and James plans for the off season?
Are you guys planning on hitting up any of the Euro events like Bercy maybe the Italian SX ?
Anyway,best of luck to you guys!
I do think you're a great team manager , Championships don't come easy and take a complete team effort.
I've never posted anything negative about you or your team and I'm only posting this so you can get my view.
I appreciate a team manager posting on here giving us a little insight into what you are thinking, but there was one post that rubbed me the wrong way.
A few years ago after Reed ran an outdoor national and wasn't in the top 3, you basically came on here and had numbers on how little exposure your team got on TV. You weren't in the Championship hunt and you weren't in the top three for the race but you almost seemed mad and that doing a national was a waste.
It made it seem that like you were are all about exposure, and as a team manager that is probably what you should be about and I think that you were just trying to share your point of view, but as a fan that spends thousands of mine own dollars a year on riding and going to races it just made you sound selfish.
Which came first the chicken or the egg?
I wouldn't expect anyone to make a bad business decision but if you love Motocross as you say then wouldn't you want to help build it up? Great racing adds excitement, excitement adds fans and exposure for your sponsors.
IMO If L&M raced all the nationals then the sport would grow and the fact that they don't makes me not like your team.
I am interested in your views on this.
Although I don't like SX only as a fan, it's their business. I also have read/heard things Larry has said that I didn't agree with and I was pretty vocal after the Reed deal and some of his MXA articles.
All that said, I posted a question on here about the new Stewart contract--was it SX only? Larry DID PM me with an answer. I didn't post it on here because I didn't want to be part of the rumor mill. Whether I like or agree with his public actions or words, I gained a bit of respect for him for what he said in the short message. He didn't have to do that, but did.
He also didn't have to write that long post in this thread. Agree or disagree, I think he gave a pretty straight forward response and deserves credit for that.
One other thing that people tend to forget on the "SX only" thing........Stewart knew exactly what kind of contract he was signing........he just resigned it!
Brooks helps put that contract together yes........But James is the one who signs on the dotted line........Not Larry!
SURE.....i'm bummed and even a little pissed off James isn't doing the out doors.....BUT , it's his fucking life......HE IS the one making the decision to not race out doors!
Why some of you slam on LB like it's 100% his fault.....I don't understand.
People make up their minds based on the information that is put out there, whatever the source. I read LB's post, as well as his posts going back to MT, and as a result, don't find him to be a completely reliable source of information. There has always been an obvious percentage of b.s. in his "explanations", again IMO.
I too, am tired of people beating down James, and tried to be very positive about his return to racing. I don't know if it's his injury or what that caused him to decide against the remaining nationals, it's his(their) decision, so be it.
I feel that saying something like, "hey, my wrist isn't there yet" or whatever, would garner more respect and sympathy, than yet another PR (BS) statement.
You said Industry people laugh at us... nice, biting the hand that feeds you is never a good idea. Sure, there are some real ignorant folks out there (here), but, why slam "the vast majority of us" ?
How about a little respect going both ways huh? The one thing that's really bothered me about this sport is the superiority complex some people get because they stand on a different side of a chain link fence at the race track.
]end rant
Big fan of James' and Larry as well. But didn't James tell DC that he planned on racing the Nats and Supercross for the next five years?
Damn I can't keep up. Has something changed again?
For some unexplainable reason, far too many people seem to get their rocks off on shitting on anyone in the industry who posts.
Only a few put up with it and eventually are left alone, like JT$ and DV12
People do get told the truth, but they don't like that version of the truth so they make up their own "truth" and go about shitting on people with it.
People need to learn to say "in my opinion' or "maybe" or "it could be possible" rather than making shit up and passing it off as fact.
That is why people on forums are laughed at
Dave do you sponsor the team, or do they use your product......Just kidding......Take a joke.
and if you weren't a nobody rather than a somebody in the sport you might have more than one too...think about it spin it
Pit Row
Outdoor motocross is the source of everything. Kids do not ride in stadiums when they start, they ride outdoors. Without the foundation of outdoor motocross, THERE IS NO SUPERCROSS.
All people argue from their position. A pimp argues from the position that he's just running his prostitution business to fullfil a demand. Drug dealers argue the same. Larry Brooks' position is making money by signing top riders to "supercross only" contracts for his "team." That has been his position for a long, long time, which is why he argues from that position.
Like pimps and drug dealers, Larry Brooks is unconcerned with the effect his "business model" has on others. The fact that if all the top riders were "supercross only" the sport would dry up and die means nothing to him. He is concerned with increasing his profits, and will use whatever riders he can to acomplish that--just as a pimp uses whatever whores he can. And the prettier the whore, the bigger the profits for the pimp.
This is just the situation as I see it. Brooks has his position and his defenders, and that's fine.
Honestly, how would Brooks even begin with this issue anyhow? The moment he even responded to one person, the colossal pile-on would come out of the woodwork clamoring for their angry acknowledgment. He'd have to retire just to keep up.
The part about pulling their pants over their belly is priceless.
Honestly Outsider,
People like you and I are a very small part of who pays for these large race budgets today.
Sup Outsider,
I posted this same response in another thread that is in the dumgeon.
Maybe James wrist is still too jacked up to race two motos, and it might be for a long time. And the reason he will not admit is because, well that would be stupid for many reasons.
1. You don't ever want your future competition to know you have ANY weakness
2. The same idiots who criticize him all year will say it is just an excuse
3. Future sponsors may be unwilling to pay his desired salary if they think it is something that could possibly slow him down. That is just to name a few.
Maybe its true his fitness is not ready to ride safely.
It could be a lot of things.
Like Dave said we do not always know what all the facts are. And mostly it will be the same clueless people taking shots at him no matter what anyway.
I will say that I've definitely warmed to LB and that his non-fans shouldn't gauge his character on his MXA contributions from a few years ago.
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