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Combine the American GP with the American National at Glen Helen. Points paid to both series.
What am I smoking? Just a dream....a dream made for moto fans.
Seriously, these organizing and/or promotional bodies are so intertwined, why not?
What am I smoking? Just a dream....a dream made for moto fans.
Seriously, these organizing and/or promotional bodies are so intertwined, why not?
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The thing that makes it seem somewhat more plausible now is the interest in the GP series. Last year, Americans could not have cared less about the GP series. The previous (American) GP races have all failed. Last year and before, this would have benefitted the GP series, exclusively. Things are quite a bit different now, with RV going to Europe. Even with all of the flag waving and shit talking, American fans seem to be developing a certain respect for the GP series.
It would have the potential to be a big freakin' deal. Let's say that this were the last race for both series. It could potentially shake things up internally for both series, or if they were both runaway (boring) championships, it could offer some spark at the end...giving fans something to get fired up about.
4 qualis on Saturday (AMA 450 250+ GP 450 250) top 20 from each go into the Sunday motos fastest race winner gets first gate pick but then the winner of the slower race get second gate pick and so on.. (although track degradation would be an issue for which race was faster)
it'd rule haha
The US Nationals are just that.
The World Championship is just that.
You'd f**K up both.
The Brit Championship - 1st round this weekend - is just that.
The Dutch National Championship - 1st round, again, this weekend - is just that.
The Belgian Nationals - next weekend, I think, is the first round - is just that - The Belgian Nationals.
Just as many other series are their own things. It's why there are a quite a few gaps in the GPs - to allow riders to do their own, or other countries National Championships. There's a Lot of racing going on out there.
I think the big thing outdoors MX enthusiasts in the US have to worry about, before thinking up series / races that will 'entertain' them, is the further expansion of the Supercross Circus. I'm sure there will be ever more pressure for that to expand, and, it will probably be at the expense of your Nationals,what with the reported reluctance in having more,race events, further through the year. .
I don't think the AMA, could stop Feld from doing any damned thing they chose to do, and the FIM, would not lift a fingure to restrict SX - not that they really could. No, that's not my falling into the utterly stupid theories about the FIM wanting to hurt the US Nationals - just a realistic view on where the true power within US racing is..SX, is the American contribution to Motorcycle Sport - it could very well destroy your Nationals - it already has far more rounds than Outdoors.
A few one-off events like the MEC would replace SX just fine for me.
GPs are 2 days with 2 motos each day, nationals are 1 day,qualifications in the morn,2 motos after lunch.
GP guarantee a start spot for each rider,nationals require a rider to be 40th or better in lap time to get a spot on gate.
Seems totally different.
spread the 1 day AMA format over 2 days and it could work.
Only problem is AMA is sponsored by Red Bull , and GP's are Monster... so it dies right there.
Pit Row
As to your final sentence - Well, thank goodness for Energy Drink sponsorship money, then.
This sort of idea of combining 2 series events, in the same actual motos, is just 'fantasy moto' level foolishness.
There is no need for this sort of thing. There are National Championships, and then there are World Championships. If people regard their national series above another, well, let them.think that way.
Watch what series you like - but heck, try being brave, and watch a few.. Your Moto World, may just be expanded..
Americans - you've got both a National at Glen Helen, then, as the last round of the World Championships, it's at Glen Helen. I'd prefer it elsewhere in the US, but am happy that Bud Feldcamp and Co may have a chance to recoup what must have been tremendous losses, even with the sweetheart deal with Luongo. Please, make an effort and go to it - your last attendances were pitiful - and I'd say that cost you having more MXDNs since the last in 2010. I would have thought that you'd be happy that you've got a GP back. A good crowd, may convince Luongo to let you play with his toy - the MXDN, again..
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The most sensible post in this topic so far.
I wrote (in 2012) in a old post about a possible Southwick GP:
10/1/2012 5:27 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/1/2012 5:28 AM
I think the only solution to this is to have a AMA National / GP event which is the same event!
Both AMA and GP points are given ala World SX/AMA SX a couple years ago.
None of the great riders in any series can afford to not race.
Just fix that now Lluongo! :-D
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