Brian Deegan on FIM and JS7

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Edited Date/Time 12/18/2014 7:15am
I think its cool to see the support grow in this situation. I hope it catches on.






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JW381 12/17/2014 10:52am
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American revolution
JamesOliver 12/17/2014 10:53am
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It's not a euro sanctioning body, though. It's an international body that covers many world series. Too many people are trying to turn this into America versus Europe.
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jamma10 12/17/2014 10:54am
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JamesOliver wrote:
It's not a euro sanctioning body, though. It's an international body that covers many world series. Too many people are trying to turn this into America...
It's not a euro sanctioning body, though. It's an international body that covers many world series. Too many people are trying to turn this into America versus Europe.
Exactly.

If a rider failed a drug test in MotoGP it would be up to the FIM to decide the penalty, likewise Speedway, Trials or Supermoto World Championships which also involve American riders.

There are even people on Facebook blaming it on Guiseppe Luongo because they don't understand the difference between the FIM and Youthstream.
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SX no longer needs the FIM...Feld, the AMA, whomever needs to can them....I agree with Deegan

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JamesOliver wrote:
It's not a euro sanctioning body, though. It's an international body that covers many world series. Too many people are trying to turn this into America...
It's not a euro sanctioning body, though. It's an international body that covers many world series. Too many people are trying to turn this into America versus Europe.
jamma10 wrote:
Exactly. If a rider failed a drug test in MotoGP it would be up to the FIM to decide the penalty, likewise Speedway, Trials or Supermoto...
Exactly.

If a rider failed a drug test in MotoGP it would be up to the FIM to decide the penalty, likewise Speedway, Trials or Supermoto World Championships which also involve American riders.

There are even people on Facebook blaming it on Guiseppe Luongo because they don't understand the difference between the FIM and Youthstream.
GTFO traders!






JK. But seriously fuck FIM. James I havent gotten that feeling but you are provoking one right now Woohoo
JamesOliver 12/17/2014 11:00am
12/17/2014 11:00am
Keep in mind Brian Deegan intentionally gave his kid an illegally bored bike at some big mini race this year and got found out and his kid was disqualified. Rules are rules, stick to them.
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Titan1 wrote:
SX no longer needs the FIM...Feld, the AMA, whomever needs to can them....I agree with Deegan
Because Stewart didn't provide a TUE when he was told he needed to?

Thats like sacking the headmaster because a pupil didn't do his homework.
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jamma10 wrote:
Exactly. If a rider failed a drug test in MotoGP it would be up to the FIM to decide the penalty, likewise Speedway, Trials or Supermoto...
Exactly.

If a rider failed a drug test in MotoGP it would be up to the FIM to decide the penalty, likewise Speedway, Trials or Supermoto World Championships which also involve American riders.

There are even people on Facebook blaming it on Guiseppe Luongo because they don't understand the difference between the FIM and Youthstream.
Im gonna go as far to say that if Cairoli tested positive for anything he wouldnt be penalized to this extent.
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jamma10 wrote:
Exactly. If a rider failed a drug test in MotoGP it would be up to the FIM to decide the penalty, likewise Speedway, Trials or Supermoto...
Exactly.

If a rider failed a drug test in MotoGP it would be up to the FIM to decide the penalty, likewise Speedway, Trials or Supermoto World Championships which also involve American riders.

There are even people on Facebook blaming it on Guiseppe Luongo because they don't understand the difference between the FIM and Youthstream.
I think it's you who doesn't understand SRB and Luongo's reach.
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jamma10 wrote:
Because Stewart didn't provide a TUE when he was told he needed to?

Thats like sacking the headmaster because a pupil didn't do his homework.
So the student gets suspended for 16 months.
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jamma10 12/17/2014 11:03am
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jamma10 wrote:
Exactly. If a rider failed a drug test in MotoGP it would be up to the FIM to decide the penalty, likewise Speedway, Trials or Supermoto...
Exactly.

If a rider failed a drug test in MotoGP it would be up to the FIM to decide the penalty, likewise Speedway, Trials or Supermoto World Championships which also involve American riders.

There are even people on Facebook blaming it on Guiseppe Luongo because they don't understand the difference between the FIM and Youthstream.
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I think it's you who doesn't understand SRB and Luongo's reach.
You have the evidence to prove this of course... or perhaps it's just a hunch?
JamesOliver 12/17/2014 11:03am
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jamma10 wrote:
Exactly. If a rider failed a drug test in MotoGP it would be up to the FIM to decide the penalty, likewise Speedway, Trials or Supermoto...
Exactly.

If a rider failed a drug test in MotoGP it would be up to the FIM to decide the penalty, likewise Speedway, Trials or Supermoto World Championships which also involve American riders.

There are even people on Facebook blaming it on Guiseppe Luongo because they don't understand the difference between the FIM and Youthstream.
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Im gonna go as far to say that if Cairoli tested positive for anything he wouldnt be penalized to this extent.
There it is again, America versus Europe.
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500guy 12/17/2014 11:04am
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Also the FIM was never a good idea for the Supercross series.
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jamma10 12/17/2014 11:05am
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jamma10 wrote:
Because Stewart didn't provide a TUE when he was told he needed to?

Thats like sacking the headmaster because a pupil didn't do his homework.
theToothPerry wrote:
So the student gets suspended for 16 months.
There's no doubt that the penalty is excessive but that's their discretion, just as the punishment for not doing homework is up to the headmaster.
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scott_nz 12/17/2014 11:06am
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you mean a guy that raced big bores in pro nationals, and then had his kid race a big bore in a amatuer race, does not think rules should be enforced? thats a shocker right there,

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500guy 12/17/2014 11:10am
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jamma10 wrote:
Because Stewart didn't provide a TUE when he was told he needed to?

Thats like sacking the headmaster because a pupil didn't do his homework.
theToothPerry wrote:
So the student gets suspended for 16 months.
jamma10 wrote:
There's no doubt that the penalty is excessive but that's their discretion, just as the punishment for not doing homework is up to the headmaster.
That's just it, it's at the discretion of someone it should never be at.

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endurox 12/17/2014 11:10am
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One could contact Kevin Crowthers at the AMA and bombar his voicemail
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theToothPerry 12/17/2014 11:12am
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JamesOliver wrote:
There it is again, America versus Europe.
In this case the FIM is based out of Europe so yeah. The AMA alone didnt do this and this isnt a world championship. They dont need international help to run a series almost entirely run withing the US.
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Paul333 12/17/2014 11:12am
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JW381 wrote:
American revolution
I would support it 100%
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ML512 12/17/2014 11:12am
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So would you all be okay if we had AMA and USADA taking care of Supercross, if they gave him the same penalty?
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500guy wrote:
Also the FIM was never a good idea for the Supercross series.
But, we went to Canada!?

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Hut 12/17/2014 11:13am
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SX is American. We don't need no stinking FIM
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scott_nz 12/17/2014 11:13am
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theToothPerry wrote:
So the student gets suspended for 16 months.
jamma10 wrote:
There's no doubt that the penalty is excessive but that's their discretion, just as the punishment for not doing homework is up to the headmaster.
500guy wrote:
That's just it, it's at the discretion of someone it should never be at.
do you beleive the AMA and USADA would have ignored his PED use?
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mattmatt300 12/17/2014 11:13am
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I don't think it's a case of USA vs Europe. More like an irrelevant sanctioning body penalizing riders they should have no authority over.
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500guy 12/17/2014 11:17am
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jamma10 wrote:
There's no doubt that the penalty is excessive but that's their discretion, just as the punishment for not doing homework is up to the headmaster.
500guy wrote:
That's just it, it's at the discretion of someone it should never be at.
scott_nz wrote:
do you beleive the AMA and USADA would have ignored his PED use?
The FIM is as crooked as a dog's hind leg, I think James would have had a better chance at a realistic penalty.

Not some BS 16 months , He didn't rob a bank.
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ML512 wrote:
So would you all be okay if we had AMA and USADA taking care of Supercross, if they gave him the same penalty?
We can burn that bridge when we get to it.
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motosmith 12/17/2014 11:18am
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Don't do the crime if you cant do the time.
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Paul333 12/17/2014 11:19am
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500guy wrote:
That's just it, it's at the discretion of someone it should never be at.
scott_nz wrote:
do you beleive the AMA and USADA would have ignored his PED use?
500guy wrote:
The FIM is as crooked as a dog's hind leg, I think James would have had a better chance at a realistic penalty. Not some BS...
The FIM is as crooked as a dog's hind leg, I think James would have had a better chance at a realistic penalty.

Not some BS 16 months , He didn't rob a bank.
Absolutely agree

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