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Bikes that improved the most from one model year to the next?

moto116

C100

Posts: 62

Joined: 7/26/2009

Location: Denton, TX USA

5/4/2013 5:53 PM

I was just curious to see what people's opinion was on bikes that improved the most from one model year to the next.

For example, I know the 2003 yz250f was drastically improved over the 2002. It was 7 pounds lighter, featured automatic decompression, the oil system was different (the dipstick for the '02 was clear up by the gas tank and handlebars), and many more features.

What's everyone's thoughts?

Diego Kawi Rider

C100_js1_3

Posts: 81

Joined: 1/10/2011

Location: San Diego, CA USA

5/4/2013 5:57 PM

2008 to 2009 kx250f

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2009 KX250F
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ATKpilot99

C100_2001125lq_1380490272

Posts: 3377

Joined: 4/13/2010

Location: Lake Geneva, WI USA

5/4/2013 5:58 PM

1997 to1998 KTM 125 SX
1999 TO 2000 CR 250

Deetsmx

C100_92526550_1267809963

Posts: 736

Joined: 4/21/2008

Location: Visalia, CA USA

5/4/2013 6:03 PM

02 to 03 rm250. bike was a turd before they copied the Yamaha motor.

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YellowZonker

C100_634413298_1218571403

Posts: 226

Joined: 8/26/2007

Location: Edmonton, CAN

5/4/2013 6:17 PM

1995 to 1996 YZ125 was a huge difference.

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Kartwheel84c

C100_mc5_400

Posts: 527

Joined: 8/28/2010

Location: Valley, AL USA

5/4/2013 6:20 PM

'75 TM400 to the '76 RM370. Not exactly the same model, but no other bike improved so much in one year. It went from the worst bike ever offered to the public, to the best in one year. Nothing else is even close.

queen of spodes

C100_gopr1761

Posts: 2686

Joined: 11/25/2007

Location: Atlanta, GA USA

5/4/2013 7:28 PM

86 to 87 RM125

JJO741

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Posts: 1637

Joined: 10/7/2010

Location: Orange, CA USA

5/4/2013 8:05 PM

2009 RMZ250 to 2010 was a drastic difference in performance.

Tokyo_Tiddler

C100_111002190_1248579176

Posts: 191

Joined: 7/25/2009

Location: Emerson, USA

5/4/2013 8:26 PM

77 vs 78 CR's and RM's, 99 vs 00 CR 250 .. night and day difference.

mike

40Plus_922mx

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Posts: 1810

Joined: 4/17/2009

Location: High Desert, CA USA

5/4/2013 8:29 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/4/2013 8:31 PM

1992 to 1993 KX125.
1997 KX250 to 1998 KX250
2002 YZF450 to 2003 YZF450
2007 to 2008 CRF450
2011 KX450 to 2012 KX450 Ask rv bout this one

SPODEBOY has repented.

SoCalMX70

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Posts: 901

Joined: 4/1/2008

Location: Thousand Oaks, CA USA

5/4/2013 9:25 PM

Deetsmx wrote: 02 to 03 rm250. bike was a turd before they copied the Yamaha motor.

'03 suspension (especially the front forks) was junk. I feel that '03-'04 was a bigger improvement.

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Prairieboy43

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Posts: 248

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Location: CAN

5/4/2013 9:46 PM

JJO741 wrote: 2009 RMZ250 to 2010 was a drastic difference in performance.

Also 80 to 81 RM125. From air-cooled, twin shock to water-cooled, full floater dream ride.

Kartwheel84c

C100_mc5_400

Posts: 527

Joined: 8/28/2010

Location: Valley, AL USA

5/4/2013 9:48 PM

You guys giving examples of bikes in the 2000s have no idea how little improvement there has been when compared to 20-30, even as little as 15 years ago. The last really big improvement was when Honda ditched their 1st Gen aluminum frame in 2000.

scooter5002

C100_cr500004

Posts: 2427

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Location: Tillsonburg On, CAN

5/4/2013 9:54 PM

Sure wasn't the 08 to 09 Honda.

newmann

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Location: USA

5/4/2013 10:04 PM

Tokyo_Tiddler wrote: 77 vs 78 CR's and RM's, 99 vs 00 CR 250 .. night and day difference.

mike

On the CR's, the 77 and 78 CR125's were identical. The 250 however was such a turd that they didn't even offer one for 1977. The 78 CR250 was decades ahead of the 76.





The 78 CR125 was another one that was long overdue for a total remake but the 79 while definitely improved had its shortcomings.

burn1986

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Location: Hell, LA USA

5/4/2013 10:15 PM

YellowZonker wrote: 1995 to 1996 YZ125 was a huge difference.

Yep X2. Beat me to it. 96 started the reign for the YZ125, that hasn't stopped.

AS64

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5/4/2013 10:44 PM

JJO741 wrote: 2009 RMZ250 to 2010 was a drastic difference in performance.

That even sounds like an understatement. It was night and day.

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kzizok

C100_100821080_1287530718

Posts: 495

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Location: USA

5/4/2013 10:54 PM

YellowZonker wrote: 1995 to 1996 YZ125 was a huge difference.

burn1986 wrote: Yep X2. Beat me to it. 96 started the reign for the YZ125, that hasn't stopped.

How about the 1985-1986 YZ 125 or even their 80 for that matter? The 1985 was considered to probably be the worst japanese MX'er, of all sizes at the time. The '86 model was an incredible change.

mototrader

C100_euro

Posts: 386

Joined: 3/17/2013

Location: Buda, TX USA

5/4/2013 11:16 PM

Deetsmx wrote: 02 to 03 rm250. bike was a turd before they copied the Yamaha motor.

SoCalMX70 wrote: '03 suspension (especially the front forks) was junk. I feel that '03-'04 was a bigger improvement.

x2, the 04 was the base for the rest of them which were awesome, and the first year they went to Showa boingers

hartebreak

C100_hood1_1394344443

Posts: 1444

Joined: 9/16/2009

Location: Portland, OR USA

5/4/2013 11:17 PM

11 to 12 Ktm 450

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AZ35

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5/4/2013 11:31 PM

Prairieboy43 wrote: Also 80 to 81 RM125. From air-cooled, twin shock to water-cooled, full floater dream ride.

Close, really close. The 81 RM125 was a game changer.

Anyone voting for any model years other than the 70's or 80's is obviously young. Or retarded.

Everything since about 1990 was just baby steps.

But the clear winner was the 1983 KX80. Just look at a picture of a 1982 KX80 and the 1983 version, and the discussion is over- clear winner. Riding them both made it even more obvious, but just look at the pictures and even my 10 year old daughter can see the clear winner.....

If I could remember how to post pictures I would, but that is also the same reason I can recall how great the 83 KX80 was... I am old and computer illiterate.

twostroke-power

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Posts: 128

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Location: AUT

5/5/2013 12:35 AM

02 to 03 ktm sx 250

Growboxracers

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Posts: 138

Joined: 4/17/2013

Location: Altoona, WI USA

5/5/2013 5:20 AM
Edited Date/Time: 5/5/2013 5:20 AM

2004-2005 YZ 125

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Growboxracers

C100_vital_mx_pic2

Posts: 138

Joined: 4/17/2013

Location: Altoona, WI USA

5/5/2013 5:22 AM

85-86 CR250

91-92 CR250

88-89 RM250

82-83 CR250

83-84 KX125

84-85 KX250

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Kartwheel84c

C100_mc5_400

Posts: 527

Joined: 8/28/2010

Location: Valley, AL USA

5/5/2013 5:59 AM

"Anyone voting for any model years other than the 70's or 80's is obviously young. Or retarded.

Everything since about 1990 was just baby steps."

This. To list a bike later than the early '90s is laughable.

queen of spodes

C100_gopr1761

Posts: 2686

Joined: 11/25/2007

Location: Atlanta, GA USA

5/5/2013 6:04 AM

kzizok wrote: How about the 1985-1986 YZ 125 or even their 80 for that matter? The 1985 was considered to probably be the worst japanese MX'er, of all sizes at the time. The '86 model was an incredible change.

I thought the 86 was mediocre at best.

kawasa84

C100

Posts: 531

Joined: 6/7/2008

Location: Flower Mound, TX USA

5/5/2013 6:04 AM

83 - 84 KX 125 Much improved Uni-track, the 84" motor was killer, won the bike shootouts that year.
04 - 05 KX 250 Moved cylinder angle to 5 degrees, improved trans, new frame, this was 2 stroke raced by James Stewart,
campaigned indoors and outdoors. But it was a great leap forward and a great bike for amatuers.

mx317

C100_rem4_1396312138

Posts: 1122

Joined: 4/1/2008

Location: TN, USA

5/5/2013 6:19 AM

40Plus_922mx wrote: 1992 to 1993 KX125.
1997 KX250 to 1998 KX250
2002 YZF450 to 2003 YZF450
2007 to 2008 CRF450
2011 KX450 to 2012 KX450 Ask rv bout this one

There wasn't a 2002 YZF450, it was a 426.

mx317

C100_rem4_1396312138

Posts: 1122

Joined: 4/1/2008

Location: TN, USA

5/5/2013 6:22 AM

1981 CR450 to 1982 CR480

Benchracer17

C100

Posts: 137

Joined: 12/10/2011

Location: FL, USA

5/5/2013 6:23 AM

'81 - '82 YZ80; seat up on tank, water cooled, new number plates.

'82 - '83 YZ80; radiator moved to the side of bike, new swing arm/suspension.

AZ35 is right, though - '82 - '83 KX80 totally different bikes.
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