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gps 1st tc
2nd cd
3rd sf
250's
1st kr
2nd jh
3rd ts
nationals 1st cr
2nd rv
3rd rd
250's 1st dw
2nd bb
3rd tr
so no americans in the top 3 in the gp's and the top 2 slots in the ama are filled by european riders so i think this proves the gp riders can do well in the ama,and that the americans laugh at the gp's and would rather stay home earn more which is of course why the europeans go there
what-do-you-not-understand?...
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Baffled-by-your-brilliance,
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(just joking around)
MX2 + Open Motocross des Nations Results:
1. Ben Townley, New Zealand (Honda)
2. Kyle Regal, Puerto Rico (Honda)
3. Ken Roczen, Germany (Suzuki)
4. Clement Desalle, Belgium (Suzuki)
5. Max Nagal,Germany (KTM)
6. Dean Wilson, Great Britain (Kawasaki)
7. Trey Canard, USA (Honda)
8. Brad Anderson, Great Britain (Honda)
9. Manuel Monni, Italy (Yamaha)
10. Jeremy van Horebeek, Belgium (Kawasaki)
11. Xavier Boog, France (Kawasaki)
12. Jorge Antonio Balbi Junior, Brazil (Kawasaki)
13. Andrew Short, USA (Honda)
14. Zach Osborne, Puerto Rico (Yamaha)
15. Yoshitaka Atsuta, Japan (Suzuki)
Pit Row
Here's an indication of that depth...
Looking at the 2nd moto lap times of each respectve 450 class at weekend Dungey was lapping on average 15 seconds faster than for example Dowd who finished 22nd. While Erikkson, the 22nd finisher in Latvia was averaging laptimes only 7 seconds slower than race winner Cairoli.
Kegums, Latvia (avg lap times)
1st...........Cairoli...............1:57.211
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10th.........Nagl.................1:57.445
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20th.........Steinbergs.......2:03.197 (6 sec diff)
21st.........Freibergs..........2:04.254 (7 sec diff)
22nd........Eriksson..........2:04.526 (7 sec diff)
23rd.........Kaurit...............2:09.530 (10 sec diff)
24th.........Apfelbaums......2:16.352 (19 sec diff) Last Place
Six riders retired, three of whom; Strijbos, Aranda & Boog regularly finish inside the top 15.
MIllville (avg lap times)
1st.........Dungey.............2.08.912
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10th.........Windham........2:16.2473 (7 sec diff)
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20th.........Mikhaylov........2.22.196 (13 sec diff)
21st.........Porter...............2.23.473 (15 sec diff)
22nd........Dowd..............2.23.850 (15 sec diff)
23rd.........Harrison..........2:23.917 (15 sec diff)
24th.........Deitrich............2:24.679 (16 sec diff)
Christian Craig did not start.
Even if (for the sake of argument) Cairoli would be lap a second slower than Dungey at Millville... you can make your own conclusions.
I'm with you on the tracks,they are more varied in Europe but good riders have 2 days to ride them not 1,trouble is you do have more track specialists,the last rider to try both was Jimmy Albertson who I have huge respect for and the guy has loads of fans in Europe,heck we want to see him back He spoke of how surprisingly difficult it was,maybe he'll return,at least it wouldn't cost him to race and he wouldn't miss rounds I guess,which is poss poor for a top 10 guy,after all its these guys we need,the attendance would be poor,how many people would want to pay to watch 8-10 guys race every week? That's why the Moto GP is undergoing changes as the grid numbers have decreased,as has the product and the interest,the better product is the Moto 2 class,the cream always rises to the top and takes more prize money too
All in all both classes are pretty equal,although the AMA seems to only have 3 or now 4 guys that stand a chance of winning,with races very strung out,if Dungey is mid pack on the 1st lap,he will always end up in the top 3 or 4,that's not so much the same in the GPs,there can be around 10 guys with very similar laptimes and more guys capable of winning
We watch the gp's and the ama nationals (always have done) and i can honestly say i havent seen it as close as this in the 20 years or so ive been watching motocross! MX1 especially- there are 15 gp winners in that class! Anyone in the top 10 can run top 3-5 (with laptimes very close)- just this season alone we've seen Nagl, Cairoli, Frossard, Bobryshev, Desalle, philleparts all win races! And goncalves, boog, leok, ramon, barragan all finish on the podium! (not to mention riders like de dyker, strijbos, guaneri and simpson all being in the top 4 or 5 at times. in the ama 450 class you know who the top 3 will be before they even get over the gate! The top 3 are MILES ahead of the rest. In gps this year its much closer- anybody in the top 10-15 can get on the podium, thats whats made it such a great series to follow this year!
For those of you that don't watch gp's - i would highly recommend it, the racings been great this year.
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