Anyone ever ride TM's?

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5/21/2017 5:36pm Edited Date/Time 5/22/2017 1:02pm
If so how are they? I saw a video on them recently and it made me look into them. They look intricate, I'm not looking to buy, just curious if anyone has riden one.


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5/21/2017 6:10pm Edited Date/Time 5/21/2017 6:11pm
This country need to dump some of laws so we can ride these.\


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5/21/2017 6:16pm Edited Date/Time 5/21/2017 6:20pm
I have been really eyeing the 300mx 2t a lot lately. Ive never rode one but damn it sounds crispy in this video....I'm just waiting for my wallet to speak tho Woohoo
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RhinoRider wrote:
This country need to dump some of laws so we can ride these.\ [img]http://www.tmracing-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/EN-300-1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.tmracing-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/EN-125-1.jpg[/img]
This country need to dump some of laws so we can ride these.\



Its a state thing bro. I can plate that in Washington state np. I can plate a bike with a title that read OFF-ROAD or CLOSED COURSE. You just need all the stuff that bike has... signals, plate bracket, brake light, 24/7 run headlight etc, normal stuff.

TM's are awesome bikes. Real trick from the start and can customize it and add stuff you would already want to add.

I can't look away from the KTM's now that they have the FI/oil injection. For the weekender like me who sometimes goes from seal level one weekend to 4k feet the next, sick setup.

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I wish tm had steel frame.
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5/21/2017 6:44pm
RhinoRider wrote:
This country need to dump some of laws so we can ride these.\ [img]http://www.tmracing-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/EN-300-1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.tmracing-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/EN-125-1.jpg[/img]
This country need to dump some of laws so we can ride these.\


Which laws specifically are you referring to? I was unaware I can't ride dirt bikes here.
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This country need to dump some of laws so we can ride these.\ [img]http://www.tmracing-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/EN-300-1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.tmracing-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/EN-125-1.jpg[/img]
This country need to dump some of laws so we can ride these.\


kott0n wrote:
Its a state thing bro. I can plate that in Washington state np. I can plate a bike with a title that read OFF-ROAD or CLOSED...

Its a state thing bro. I can plate that in Washington state np. I can plate a bike with a title that read OFF-ROAD or CLOSED COURSE. You just need all the stuff that bike has... signals, plate bracket, brake light, 24/7 run headlight etc, normal stuff.

TM's are awesome bikes. Real trick from the start and can customize it and add stuff you would already want to add.

I can't look away from the KTM's now that they have the FI/oil injection. For the weekender like me who sometimes goes from seal level one weekend to 4k feet the next, sick setup.
OH, we can plate them in CA too in a round about way.
I agree on the new KTMs.

Colin, those are street legal in most countries except the USA, but like Kott0n said, it's kind of on the state level.
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5/21/2017 7:20pm Edited Date/Time 5/21/2017 7:20pm
TM's are damn sexy... the 2 strokes I dig, I nearly got the 300 instead of the TC250
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NP301 wrote:
If so how are they? I saw a video on them recently and it made me look into them. They look intricate, I'm not looking to...
If so how are they? I saw a video on them recently and it made me look into them. They look intricate, I'm not looking to buy, just curious if anyone has riden one.


I've spent some time on my buddies 2016 EN 250 FI (four stroke enduro) Felt pretty comfortable on it right away. Ergos were good, power was good, suspension worked very well. Chassis felt a little too stiff for my liking. Like someone else already said, wish they had a steel frame. The gasping sound from the air box takes some getting used to. Components and build seems to be quality from what I can tell. Would be a cool ride for someone looking for something different. My current rides 16 KX250F & 09 KTM 200 XC.
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OH, we can plate them in CA too in a round about way. I agree on the new KTMs. Colin, those are street legal in most...
OH, we can plate them in CA too in a round about way.
I agree on the new KTMs.

Colin, those are street legal in most countries except the USA, but like Kott0n said, it's kind of on the state level.
Ah ok, your first post made it sound like you believe they're simply illegal, offroad or onroad.

But yes, it's a state by state thing, and to a degree a city by city thing. I wouldn't have a problem registering that bike here in rural Georgia, but an hour south into Atlanta and I'd probably have a problem.
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Last weekend in St Wendel Germany
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/05/22/197125/s1200_20170513_091726.jpg[/img] Last weekend in St Wendel Germany


Last weekend in St Wendel Germany
Living the dream! Awesome setup, feel free to pimp some more..
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My brother is dealer for TM. He took them on so he would have a 2 stroke to sell since Kawi and Suz don't have any.
Very cool but expensive. Really a niche bike. I rode the 144 mx. Its was fast and handled well. All their bikes are tall.

He sold a 125 and a 250 to a couple of brothers. They do pretty well on them. Kinda cool to see them out on the track since you don't see that many.

The older brother is pretty darnn fast on his 250 and seems to like it.
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I ride them all the time.

My brother and I have owned several TMs.

Love em.

We´ve owned

Tm 300 MX 2001, 2010 and 2013.

Tm 300 EN 2015 and 2017

Tm 144 MX 2015

Tm 125 EN 2014

Tm 450 MX 2010 2013 and 2015

Tm 300F MX 2017

This Picture was last friday when we had a Bachelor party MX style.





Picture of my latest 300




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This speedy young man seems to make them look pretty good. TM on a TM



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Jrewing wrote:
Paging NystmaC

Call sent, but I imagine he's riding or fishing on the last day of a long weekend. He texted me this morning, early, so I assume he's not passed out drunk in that back of his pickup. That, or he never went to bed.
5/22/2017 9:18am Edited Date/Time 5/22/2017 10:40am
TM's are fantastic bikes. Very reliable. Hand-welded, hand-assembled, with high quality materials and aftermarket parts in very low numbers. Here's our 2017 250 MX
2 map ignition
Hydraulic clutch
Vforce 3 reeds
KYB forks with in house TM shock
Oversized galfer rotors with Brembo calipers
Added a PC pipe/r304 silencer
Email tmracinggeorgia@yahoo.com for info





5/22/2017 9:41am
I wanted to buy one...
Speak to Ralf Schmidt, he's very informative. Also like previously stated, you can buy really good accessories for them.

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Jrewing wrote:
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/05/22/197163/s1200_IMG_6772.jpg[/img] Call sent, but I imagine he's riding or fishing on the last day of a long weekend. He texted me this morning, early, so I...

Call sent, but I imagine he's riding or fishing on the last day of a long weekend. He texted me this morning, early, so I assume he's not passed out drunk in that back of his pickup. That, or he never went to bed.


Be with you shortly!
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5/22/2017 10:46am Edited Date/Time 5/22/2017 10:49am
I've gad a bunch of them now, first being an 02 400f, followed by an 11 450f, 13 250mx, 14 144 and 250mx, latest being the '17 300f. I've had some red, yellow, green and Italian Husky's sprinkled in for good measure so I'm not blinded by being too brand loyal.

I'm not going to say they are the best bike on the track but they're as good as anything else out there that I've ridden. Where they stand out and keep me as a return customer is the quality. There's nothing else even close. They're a step above any factory edition KTM, and they come truly race prepped from the factory. Everything is greased and every bolt has assembly lube on it and nothing needs upgrading. Just set up your suspension, put on your favorite bars and go. They come with Mitas tires which some guys don't care for, they're not my favorite but I don't dislike them enough to change them out right away.

They're made to be extremely durable and bulletproof. Hard coated billet clutch baskets, copper beryllium valve seats, billet connecting rods, hard coated cranks, hand lapped and matched cases, zinc plated bolts, tons of small bits are machined billet aluminum. They're expensive but if you really dissect them, they should be a lot more expensive than what they are.

Parts are easy to get and priced competitively, with the odd exception here and there.

The biggest drawback to owning a TM is resale can be difficult, they suit tall guys better, and there's not a wealth of setup tips to find amomgst the small North American owners network. There's not a lot of aftermarket available for them either but almost any aftermarket part would be a downgrade from OEM anyways.
5/22/2017 11:07am
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I've gad a bunch of them now, first being an 02 400f, followed by an 11 450f, 13 250mx, 14 144 and 250mx, latest being the...
I've gad a bunch of them now, first being an 02 400f, followed by an 11 450f, 13 250mx, 14 144 and 250mx, latest being the '17 300f. I've had some red, yellow, green and Italian Husky's sprinkled in for good measure so I'm not blinded by being too brand loyal.

I'm not going to say they are the best bike on the track but they're as good as anything else out there that I've ridden. Where they stand out and keep me as a return customer is the quality. There's nothing else even close. They're a step above any factory edition KTM, and they come truly race prepped from the factory. Everything is greased and every bolt has assembly lube on it and nothing needs upgrading. Just set up your suspension, put on your favorite bars and go. They come with Mitas tires which some guys don't care for, they're not my favorite but I don't dislike them enough to change them out right away.

They're made to be extremely durable and bulletproof. Hard coated billet clutch baskets, copper beryllium valve seats, billet connecting rods, hard coated cranks, hand lapped and matched cases, zinc plated bolts, tons of small bits are machined billet aluminum. They're expensive but if you really dissect them, they should be a lot more expensive than what they are.

Parts are easy to get and priced competitively, with the odd exception here and there.

The biggest drawback to owning a TM is resale can be difficult, they suit tall guys better, and there's not a wealth of setup tips to find amomgst the small North American owners network. There's not a lot of aftermarket available for them either but almost any aftermarket part would be a downgrade from OEM anyways.
how do you like the new 300 ? is it the offroad or the mx model ? how would you compared to other bikes ? would you say its faster than a ktm sxf250 2017 engine wise ?
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nytsmaC wrote:
I've gad a bunch of them now, first being an 02 400f, followed by an 11 450f, 13 250mx, 14 144 and 250mx, latest being the...
I've gad a bunch of them now, first being an 02 400f, followed by an 11 450f, 13 250mx, 14 144 and 250mx, latest being the '17 300f. I've had some red, yellow, green and Italian Husky's sprinkled in for good measure so I'm not blinded by being too brand loyal.

I'm not going to say they are the best bike on the track but they're as good as anything else out there that I've ridden. Where they stand out and keep me as a return customer is the quality. There's nothing else even close. They're a step above any factory edition KTM, and they come truly race prepped from the factory. Everything is greased and every bolt has assembly lube on it and nothing needs upgrading. Just set up your suspension, put on your favorite bars and go. They come with Mitas tires which some guys don't care for, they're not my favorite but I don't dislike them enough to change them out right away.

They're made to be extremely durable and bulletproof. Hard coated billet clutch baskets, copper beryllium valve seats, billet connecting rods, hard coated cranks, hand lapped and matched cases, zinc plated bolts, tons of small bits are machined billet aluminum. They're expensive but if you really dissect them, they should be a lot more expensive than what they are.

Parts are easy to get and priced competitively, with the odd exception here and there.

The biggest drawback to owning a TM is resale can be difficult, they suit tall guys better, and there's not a wealth of setup tips to find amomgst the small North American owners network. There's not a lot of aftermarket available for them either but almost any aftermarket part would be a downgrade from OEM anyways.
how do you like the new 300 ? is it the offroad or the mx model ? how would you compared to other bikes ? would...
how do you like the new 300 ? is it the offroad or the mx model ? how would you compared to other bikes ? would you say its faster than a ktm sxf250 2017 engine wise ?
It's the MX model. I haven't ridden a new 250SXF so can't compare, but it's considerably faster than a 16 KX250F. MXA did a write-up on it and says The power is comparable to a fully built works 250F, so I'd assume it's in the 50hp range. I really like it so far, only have 2 hours on it so far. I'm a 2stroke guy at heart, I generally don't care for 450's so I think it's going to be a great fit for me. It's so much easier to go fast on than my 2-strokes, it's like cheating.
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I bought an '11 250MX years ago. It's still one of the fastest 2strokes I've ever ridden. It reminded me more of an old school 2 stroke with the power delivery and the raspy sound ('twas awesome). I was mainly riding it offroad and it sure was a tough bike to ride when it got technical. It was fantastic on the moto track though.

nytsmaC is right on the resale though. Mine was for sale forever without any interest. I ended it up trading it for an '06 YZ250 plus a little cash.

5/22/2017 12:34pm
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It's the MX model. I haven't ridden a new 250SXF so can't compare, but it's considerably faster than a 16 KX250F. MXA did a write-up on...
It's the MX model. I haven't ridden a new 250SXF so can't compare, but it's considerably faster than a 16 KX250F. MXA did a write-up on it and says The power is comparable to a fully built works 250F, so I'd assume it's in the 50hp range. I really like it so far, only have 2 hours on it so far. I'm a 2stroke guy at heart, I generally don't care for 450's so I think it's going to be a great fit for me. It's so much easier to go fast on than my 2-strokes, it's like cheating.
ok thanks, yeah im in whit you on the 450 is kind of boring so im interested on the new tm 300 4t or two stroke. i was leaning towards a two stroke first but when you wrote that the 4 stroke had Hard coated billet clutch baskets, copper beryllium valve seats, billet connecting rods, hard coated cranks, hand lapped and matched cases and all that it seem like it they want them to be really reliable so maybe a 300 4 stroke should be it. i like a bike that you can ride hard and at least feel you are fast :D on the 450 i just cant ride it hard its just to fast for a slow rider like me.
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I would absolutely love the chance to ride their MX250 two stroke.
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The 250MX is a handful. The powerband is very similar to my 144, just on steroids. It's fun but I don't need that much power for the tracks I mostly ride. The 144 is so much more nimble I prefer to ride it every time, it's just seriously outgunned racing it in the vet class.

The 300f bridges the gap nicely, it feels agile almost like the 144 but has a cheater motor. It can lug, it has an unbelievable top end/overrev, it hooks up like it's on velcro and it doesn't wear you out. For. 2-stroke guy it may be a little vanilla to some, but I feel like it's the perfect race bike for the vet class.

I'll keep a 2-stroke in the stable in case it ever gets boring, too soon to tell. I think with the way it handles it won't be an issue, it rewards spirited riding and that's what keeps things fun for me.. and why I generally don't care for 450s.
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Hard to justify the cost but they are killer bikes.

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