Antonio Cairoli - If RV does Europe

8/14/2014 11:58pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2014 6:40pm
If RV Heads on over to the GP's, What do you think the chances are Cairoli packs up the 350 and goes 450 for the battle?
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8/15/2014 12:09am
AC will race in Canada next year to dodge RV.
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8/15/2014 12:09am
Zero. He's been on the 350 for so long and it's built for him. Last year he rode the 450 in Lierop and that went to shit.
8/15/2014 12:11am
He'll stay on the 350!

RV is the man for sure but he will have it tough in the GPs!

If he goes it will be epic!
8/15/2014 12:13am
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Zero. He's been on the 350 for so long and it's built for him. Last year he rode the 450 in Lierop and that went to...
Zero. He's been on the 350 for so long and it's built for him. Last year he rode the 450 in Lierop and that went to shit.
Yeah true. But that was a one off. He would have a whole off season to prepare. I guess like any testing, he would probably test it during the off season and see if he can make the extra cc's work for him.

Regardless being in AC's shoes he would have to watch a lot of tape on how RV attacks a race compared to the Euro steady steady for half the moto, than balls out later on.

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8/15/2014 12:37am
Olson wrote:
Zero. He's been on the 350 for so long and it's built for him. Last year he rode the 450 in Lierop and that went to...
Zero. He's been on the 350 for so long and it's built for him. Last year he rode the 450 in Lierop and that went to shit.
Yeah true. But that was a one off. He would have a whole off season to prepare. I guess like any testing, he would probably test...
Yeah true. But that was a one off. He would have a whole off season to prepare. I guess like any testing, he would probably test it during the off season and see if he can make the extra cc's work for him.

Regardless being in AC's shoes he would have to watch a lot of tape on how RV attacks a race compared to the Euro steady steady for half the moto, than balls out later on.

Euro steady steady for half the moto

This is mostly due to the style of tracks imo, which is also why the 350 is able to work for Tony. I don't think AC would move to a 450 because he'd have nothing to gain. He isn't missing the hp on the GP circuits and would seemingly much rather have the added mobility of the 350. On the National scene it'd be a different story - I think adopting the added intensity is a necessity on those tracks along with the increased hp of a 450.
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I thought everyone said it wasn't a 350 anywaysWhistling
8/15/2014 5:11am
I believe if we see the same villo as we have seen here in the states go race Cairoli .........He will Have AC covered!

What I mean by that is if Villo trains as hard as he did here with Baker and "really" wants it, nobody over there will keep him from a world title except an unforseen injury.
8/15/2014 5:13am
I believe if we see the same villo as we have seen here in the states go race Cairoli .........He will Have AC covered! What I...
I believe if we see the same villo as we have seen here in the states go race Cairoli .........He will Have AC covered!

What I mean by that is if Villo trains as hard as he did here with Baker and "really" wants it, nobody over there will keep him from a world title except an unforseen injury.
i admire your optimism

it will be interesting thats for sure!
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8/15/2014 5:46am
hvaughn88 wrote:
I thought everyone said it wasn't a 350 anywaysWhistling
Yeah,, somebody said you could tell by the way it sounds?
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8/15/2014 6:59am
If RV Heads on over to the GP's, What do you think the chances are Cairoli packs up the 350 and goes 450 for the battle?
Yes, I'm sure he will. Because till now he's been intentionally handicapping himself trying to give the other riders a chance. LOL
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8/15/2014 7:02am
hvaughn88 wrote:
I thought everyone said it wasn't a 350 anywaysWhistling
Yeah,, somebody said you could tell by the way it sounds?
I'll trust the FIM who tore down the bike, before I trust some expert sound listener...
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If RC went there, AC would still be the favorite and his 350 will do just fine as it has been to date. AC has the GP experience under his belt along with experience on the tracks; tracks that the 350 is very well built for.

Are there any high altitude tracks on the GP circuit, because that is one weak area I would see for the 350 compared to the 450 (Colorado MXoN anyone?) and even there AC flew.
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8/15/2014 8:05am
I'm sure AC will stay with the 350. I also think he'll have plenty for RV. Should be an excellent battle. BUT. I bet it doesn't happen.
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hvaughn88 wrote:
I thought everyone said it wasn't a 350 anywaysWhistling
Yeah,, somebody said you could tell by the way it sounds?
Moto75 wrote:
I'll trust the FIM who tore down the bike, before I trust some expert sound listener...
I agree. That was meant more as a sarcastic attempt at humor because of all the conspiracy theories that run rampant through here.
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There are no rules..... Isn't Jeremy VH's Yamaha supposedly a 400?
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8/15/2014 8:35am
so would this be the first time RV could be able to ride a full works machine?

just the thought of watching him crack the throttle for the first practice at the first race makes me hope like fuck the rumor is true
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8/15/2014 8:36am
For immediate release:


"Red Bull KTM USA confirms the addition of Antonio Cairoli to race the KTM 350SX in the 2015 AMA Motocross Championship Series alongside teammate Ryan Dungey on the KTM 450SX-FE"
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slipdog wrote:
[i]For immediate release:[/i] [i]"Red Bull KTM USA confirms the addition of Antonio Cairoli to race the KTM 350SX in the 2015 AMA Motocross Championship Series alongside...
For immediate release:


"Red Bull KTM USA confirms the addition of Antonio Cairoli to race the KTM 350SX in the 2015 AMA Motocross Championship Series alongside teammate Ryan Dungey on the KTM 450SX-FE"
Stop ittttttt......... You're going to make heads explode!!
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slipdog wrote:
[i]For immediate release:[/i] [i]"Red Bull KTM USA confirms the addition of Antonio Cairoli to race the KTM 350SX in the 2015 AMA Motocross Championship Series alongside...
For immediate release:


"Red Bull KTM USA confirms the addition of Antonio Cairoli to race the KTM 350SX in the 2015 AMA Motocross Championship Series alongside teammate Ryan Dungey on the KTM 450SX-FE"
SHTF in 5, 4, 3...
8/15/2014 9:07am
If RV Heads on over to the GP's, What do you think the chances are Cairoli packs up the 350 and goes 450 for the battle?
Moto75 wrote:
Yes, I'm sure he will. Because till now he's been intentionally handicapping himself trying to give the other riders a chance. LOL
Different tactics for different competition.

I agree with most. If RV brings his same work ethic to the GPs he should win, Cairoli is great but only rides as fast as he needs to, not really pushing the boundaries. It works for him. But you never see him win by 20-30 secs (or not often). .
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8/15/2014 9:20am
Obviously my earlier comment was just sarcasm, I'm sure that AC is going to be business as usual and will be prepared to defend his World title like any other year. If the RV to MXGP happens it will make for some great racing and we all win!
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8/15/2014 9:41am
peelout wrote:
so would this be the first time RV could be able to ride a full works machine? just the thought of watching him crack the throttle...
so would this be the first time RV could be able to ride a full works machine?

just the thought of watching him crack the throttle for the first practice at the first race makes me hope like fuck the rumor is true
Yep. Full works unobtanium.
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8/15/2014 9:45am
how much of a difference do you think there really is between a GP works bike and the bike the AMA guys ride?
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8/15/2014 10:08am
He will stay on the 350 and get a good look at the back of a KX450.
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8/15/2014 10:23am
cairoli will still beat him for the champy on RV's 1st season there
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8/15/2014 10:47am
If RV Heads on over to the GP's, What do you think the chances are Cairoli packs up the 350 and goes 450 for the battle?
Moto75 wrote:
Yes, I'm sure he will. Because till now he's been intentionally handicapping himself trying to give the other riders a chance. LOL
Different tactics for different competition. I agree with most. If RV brings his same work ethic to the GPs he should win, Cairoli is great but...
Different tactics for different competition.

I agree with most. If RV brings his same work ethic to the GPs he should win, Cairoli is great but only rides as fast as he needs to, not really pushing the boundaries. It works for him. But you never see him win by 20-30 secs (or not often). .
Think about it from a different angle - beyond the fact that he prefers the 350. If they switched to the 450, it would look like KTM was running from the 350 - by far their best selling model. They wouldn't crucify their most popular displacement. For so many reasons, it doesn't make sense to switch.
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8/15/2014 11:34am Edited Date/Time 8/15/2014 11:34am
Cairoli is going to give RV a run for his money! he knows the tracks, he is comfortable there, Hes been winning for so long.

Rv is the fastest but not always the fastest wins!
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8/15/2014 1:17pm Edited Date/Time 8/15/2014 1:18pm
sundios wrote:
Cairoli is going to give RV a run for his money! he knows the tracks, he is comfortable there, Hes been winning for so long. Rv...
Cairoli is going to give RV a run for his money! he knows the tracks, he is comfortable there, Hes been winning for so long.

Rv is the fastest but not always the fastest wins!
You say that but there are seven or eight new circuits on the (provisional) calendar next year. They'll be as unfamiliar to Cairoli as they are to RV and I won't be surprised to see RV dominate at some circuits like Matterly Basin.

Possibly the most critical factor in deciding the championship is that there only appears to be one sand circuit on the calendar at the moment; Lommel. I wonder if they'll decide to add another?

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